BillsBlue Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) I've been doing some thinking about how the offense will evolve moving forward in the absence of Beez and Sanders next season. I assume this is probably what's going to happen as Beez is on the last year of his contract and it's been a tough year PR wise as well he's lost a step and a half. I see us being better for him leaving the team at this point in his career and also because Mckenzie is ready to be featured and opens up our offense and makes it very hard to defend with all that he brings to the table. As far as Sanders goes I wonder if he has another season in the tank or not?? Is mckenzie enough to replace what 2021 Sanders and Beez bring to the table?? Also worth noting is Gabe Davis, he seems to be ready to be as full time starter opposite Diggs now and for the future plus he can get open deep(this makes Sanders more loseable imo). A different player at a different position is absolutely primed to be a feature player(not just in TDs like this year but in YARDS too) next season is Knox, he will be a superstar next season and this helps the loss of Beez and Sanders be less also. So with that said I bring you your most potent Offense imo of 2022 while opening the cap up a little Diggs Knox Davis Mckenzie Allen Singletary I hope we run this a bit Sunday, it's a pick your poison set of players and people get open when these guys are all out there as well it keeps defenses off balance with the pre snap motions with mckenzie and makes running so much easier as well as passing!! BILLS 37 CHIEFS 21 Edited January 23, 2022 by BillsBlue Grammar 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 We'll see, but I would be surprised if Beasley and Sanders were both on the team next year, and I would not be surprised if neither is. I think between some young guys (Hodgins, Stevenson) and new guys brought in through FA and the draft the receivers room will look pretty different next year. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: We'll see, but I would be surprised if Beasley and Sanders were both on the team next year, and I would not be surprised if neither is. I think between some young guys (Hodgins, Stevenson) and new guys brought in through FA and the draft the receivers room will look pretty different next year. I feel as though you said the same thing in a different way in this sentence. We get it, you don't like Bease and Sanders! 🤪 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, BillsBlue said: I've been doing some thinking about how the offense will evolve moving forward in the absence of Beez and Sanders next season. I assume this is probably what's going to happen as Beez is on the last year of his contract and it's been a tough year PR wise as well he's lost a step and a half. I see us being better for him leaving the team at this point in his career and also because Mckenzie is ready to be featured and opens up our offense and makes it very hard to defend with all that he brings to the table. As far as Sanders goes I wonder if he has another season in the tank or not?? Is mckenzie enough to replace what 2021 Sanders and Beez bring to the table?? Also worth noting is Gabe Davis, he seems to be ready to be as full time starter opposite Diggs now and for the future plus he can get open deep(this makes Sanders more loseable imo). A different player at a different position is absolutely primed to be a feature player(not just in TDs like this year but in YARDS too) next season is Knox, he will be a superstar next season and this helps the loss of Beez and Sanders be less also. So with that said I bring you your most potent Offense imo of 2022 while opening the cap up a little Diggs Knox Davis Mckenzie Allen Singletary I hope we run this a bit Sunday, it's a pick your poison set of players and people get open when these guys are all out there as well it keeps defenses off balance with the pre snap motions with mckenzie and makes running so much easier as well as passing!! BILLS 37 CHIEFS 21 When Bills Win they always win by 12+ Bills 38 kc 24 If the chiefs win it’s going to be close and heartbreaking, something like 31-30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Funny how Bease has lost a step but Sanders has not. Looking at Beasely's plays on Sunday, he was open on quite a few dropbacks.. Knox second touchdown Beasley would have easily scored as well. However I do agree if he may need to restructure if he want's to stay a Bill 7.5m cap hit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: We'll see, but I would be surprised if Beasley and Sanders were both on the team next year, and I would not be surprised if neither is. I think between some young guys (Hodgins, Stevenson) and new guys brought in through FA and the draft the receivers room will look pretty different next year. Ideally, we win the Super Bowl and Sanders retires, he's basically said that already, but I wouldn't be surprised if he retires either way at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) Sanders and Beasley are definitely both question marks for next season - especially if Daboll is gone. A new OC (if not from within the organization) might want to bring in at least one of "their own" guys, either by FA or draft at WR. Just never know with how they may need to play the salary cap (even since it'll go up), with Josh's nice new salary.... Don't want to turn this into a salary cap discussion - would just be very surprised if the WR corp is the same next season. Edited January 21, 2022 by Blainorama5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 A lot of player and cap calculus to sort this out. But, Hodgins is far from having shown anything in a game, even preseason. Who knows if he can play. Sanders likely has to go, and Kumerow is a core special teams player I think. McKenzie is on a one year deal, and is from Miami.....I would not rule out him showing up on the phins roster. Beasley can still play, and is a little expensive at7.5.....if he restructures, he might stay. I don't buy he is much slower btw. Yes, a high draft pick after the linemen we need is called for. If we loose coordinators we might have excess 3 rd picks to focus on this need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 They need to sign McKenzie first, he is a UFA 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I could see both of them leaving, I would hope they sign a veteran and draft a young guy though. No need to thin your receiver room to much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 The offense is most versatile with McKenzie and Davis, I think. You have Davis' superb run-blocking and sideline play and McKenzie's speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: I feel as though you said the same thing in a different way in this sentence. We get it, you don't like Bease and Sanders! 🤪 Sanders signed a 1 year contract for $6M. He may have been a bit of a disappointment as far as availability - missed preseason and needed to "get in sync" with Josh Allen during the first couple games of the season, missed 3 games and most of a 4th (though to his credit, he did come back to play in a crucial game when 2 other starting WR were out with Covid, so he gets the "team guy" props for that). Before he missed those games, he seemed to be fading a bit, with his blocking falling off. He had his lowest catch % of the last 4 seasons (since 2017). Similar kind of analysis of Beasley. On the good side, he is still the Master at getting open vs. zone. On the other side, he seems to have lost some burst, and there are questions (at least in my mind) as to whether a Beasley who is playing injured and going down instead of fighting for a first down should be on the field ahead of Davis or McKenzie. The Bills have limited cap space, so it's not a huge stretch (or a sign of dislike) to think the Bills might decide they need that cap to re-sign Harrison Phillips and others, and they should move towards getting younger at WR - giving Davis a shot and re-signing McKenzie, perhaps. I would really like to see the Bills use some top picks at OL and WR this draft. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Sanders signed a 1 year contract for $6M. He may have been a bit of a disappointment as far as availability - missed preseason and needed to "get in sync" with Josh Allen during the first couple games of the season, missed 3 games and most of a 4th (though to his credit, he did come back to play in a crucial game when 2 other starting WR were out with Covid, so he gets the "team guy" props for that). Before he missed those games, he seemed to be fading a bit, with his blocking falling off. He had his lowest catch % of the last 4 seasons (since 2017). Similar kind of analysis of Beasley. On the good side, he is still the Master at getting open vs. zone. On the other side, he seems to have lost some burst, and there are questions (at least in my mind) as to whether a Beasley who is playing injured and going down instead of fighting for a first down should be on the field ahead of Davis or McKenzie. The Bills have limited cap space, so it's not a huge stretch (or a sign of dislike) to think the Bills might decide they need that cap to re-sign Harrison Phillips and others, and they should move towards getting younger at WR - giving Davis a shot and re-signing McKenzie, perhaps. I would really like to see the Bills use some top picks at OL and WR this draft. I’m not saying I disagree with him or you, I think it’s likely they move on from them too. I was just pointing out the confusing language the poster used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: I’m not saying I disagree with him or you, I think it’s likely they move on from them too. I was just pointing out the confusing language the poster used. I have no argument there. I had to read it a couple times myself. 12 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: I could see both of them leaving, I would hope they sign a veteran and draft a young guy though. No need to thin your receiver room to much. I think the Bills probably wanted to keep Beasley around another year for that "dog" mentality and veteran presence in the WR room and for teaching his craft as a zone dissector to the younger guys. I do think @BADOLBILZ may be correct that a guy doesn't rack up the NFL fines and off-field attention that Beasley has done this season without getting a bit on the "gruntled" side of the coaching staff and FO. I'm not sure that's the big negative some here would believe, but it turns what would be a clear "Advantage: Beasley" (grit, veteran leadership, "dog" mentality) into a "Mixed Bag" at best. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said: Sanders and Beasley are definitely both question marks for next season - especially if Daboll is gone. A new OC (if not from within the organization) might want to bring in at least one of "their own" guys, either by FA or draft at WR. Just never know with how they may need to play the salary cap (even since it'll go up), with Josh's nice new salary.... Don't want to turn this into a salary cap discussion - would just be very surprised if the WR corp is the same next season. I think Beasley is gone for sure next year, but that's just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 After the Bills draft Jameson Williams, who likely won't be available until later in the season, and before he is available, they will likely need a placeholder. Wouldn't surprise me to see them bring one of those guys back(Beasley) as a veteran presence in the room. After they win the SB mind you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: I’m not saying I disagree with him or you, I think it’s likely they move on from them too. I was just pointing out the confusing language the poster used. I don't think it was confusing. He would be surprised if both were on the roster. He would not surprised if neither were on the roster. And it's implied that he wouldn't be surprised if the third possibility holds - that only one of them is on the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: I think Beasley is gone for sure next year, but that's just my opinion. The way they structured his contract, I thought from year 1 he'd likely be gone unless he vastly outperformed his deal. If he stays, they'll need to redo it and probably extend him. This season's beasely won't on the field wouldn't likely convince them to keep him disregarding any off the field stuff. I'd like to see McKenzie back, but I think he's swing himself a decent deal they may not match. Davis seems like the "successor" to #2 (sanders). I think they bring another mid-tier vet to replace experience of Sanders/Beasely. I'd be comfortable with Diggs/Davis/Mckenzie as 1/2/3 and a mid-tier vet to compete with the younger guys for 4/5/6/Returner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Looking more and more like we draft a WR 1st rd or better yet, trade down and draft a WR, OL,DT and CB in the first 3 rounds. Resign Levi, bates, Isaiah and Harrison. Bye to Cole and sanders. MLB is a potential pick but if tremaines extension is 13.3M like spotrac predicts, I could see us extending him. Not sure if he’s worth that kind of money…..but he’ll have a chance to prove it this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 There’s a kid name olave from osu who can slide into the slot or if the Bama kid who tore his acl falls to us that would give us insane weapons 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, BillsBlue said: So with that said I bring you your most potent Offense imo of 2022 while opening the cap up a little did you cry to a mod and have my posts deleted? lmao. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I’m assuming we bring back McKenzie, that neither Sanders nor Beasley are good enough to be the WR3, and that Davis takes the #2 role. If Hodgins (likely an outside guy) can’t step up, I imagine we can bring in a reasonably priced slot guy who wants to play for a winner like Keelan Cole (who could also be a return man). Allen Robinson could be intriguing on a one-year “prove it” deal with a contender. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I appreciate what Cole and Emannuel have meant to this team but it's time to make Diggs, Davis, Knox and McKenzie our top 4 receivers. I think both 1 & 11 are gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Bills Fan Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Both will retire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: There’s a kid name olave from osu who can slide into the slot or if the Bama kid who tore his acl falls to us that would give us insane weapons Jahan Dotson would be nice too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 WTF. retire? Among the 75 wide receivers who have been targeted on at least 200 passes since the start of 2013, Beasley again has the highest catch rate (73.7 percent). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Beasley better be on the team next year, you can't just discard him We should be trying to pry away Renfrow gorm the Raiders still however to eventually succeed Bease when he retires a Bill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Beasley better be on the team next year, you can't just discard him We should be trying to pry away Renfrow gorm the Raiders still however to eventually succeed Bease when he retires a Bill like I said. well what I indicated who would let a 73% completion rate guy walk away it’s not like Beasley is asking Huge $$$ Edited January 22, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 This is the year we can afford to try and buy a Ferrari for the offense. Would've loved Kadarius Toney this year, but obv he went ahead of our pick, and we didn't have room for a luxury pick. Really hope things line up where we can find a dude with those skill sets. Wr room full of possession guys. Elite route runners, which is absolutely great, just think we need our Ferrari. Keep McKenzie and hope there's a guy with this skill set in play this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Captain Caveman said: We'll see, but I would be surprised if Beasley and Sanders were both on the team next year, and I would not be surprised if neither is. I think between some young guys (Hodgins, Stevenson) and new guys brought in through FA and the draft the receivers room will look pretty different next year. We will draft another receiver pretty early in draft. I thought RB but Singletary is playing well and cheap. Moss cheap. So they will roll with them and bring in a vet. So. I can see us drafting another WR ORRRRR trading for Calvin ridley. He needs a good structure...he's slightly tainted because of this year. Will he decide he can't play again? No one if giving a first for that. I think he's had for a 2nd and a 2023 pick. Diggs ridley Gabe and Knox and we go all in while ridley is still cheap. Ps. I'd be all into sanders back but not bease 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I wouldn't be shocked if the Bills spend a fairly high draft pick at WR and let Sanders and Beasley walk. I think that the front office might view Sanders as a one and done while Beasley as a cap casualty. I think they resign Mac and add a WR drafted in the first two rounds to the mix as short term depth and longer term insurance. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I think it's possible Sanders returns. Especially if he has a big game tomorrow or in possible future games (though I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch). Could definitely see him wanting to come back and not breaking the bank. Beasley isn't happening unless he takes a total restructure. They can save over 6 million in cap space releasing him. Could most likely bring back both McKenzie and Sanders (and maybe have a little left over) with that money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Christian Kirk in the slot next year, please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Bease can still ball! 82 catches back to back seasons. Crazy fans just wanna discard him. If we can bring him back on restructured deal. He can still play a role for us. I think Sanders will retire 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Bease will restructure. I think McKenzie has earned a mult-year deal and Beane will get it done. Only way I see Sanders back is if he wants to make another run at a lower price with the understanding that Gabe will be phased in. That’s possible because if you listen to his interviews, he’s playing for the fun/ring now not the money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 6:05 PM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: did you cry to a mod and have my posts deleted? lmao. No siree I've never cried to the mods before about anything 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 10 hours ago, RunTheBall said: Bease will restructure. I think McKenzie has earned a mult-year deal and Beane will get it done. Only way I see Sanders back is if he wants to make another run at a lower price with the understanding that Gabe will be phased in. That’s possible because if you listen to his interviews, he’s playing for the fun/ring now not the money. Think one of the two will be back. We have depth and Steph Hod or TD Jesus will play bit more. GD becomes more prominent. WR not a problem or priority in off season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Beasley was an undrafted FA in 2012. If nothing else dude has a Long NFL career.....wether he sticks on the roster is anyones guess....or will he want to stay.....? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I think the Bills could do better than Sanders and Beasley, whether in the draft or free agency. When you have a QB like Allen you need to make sure he has weapons. I’m okay with even a first round pick on WR. Maybe they can even find a good WR like Juju Smith-Schuster in FA, heck, do both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: I think the Bills could do better than Sanders and Beasley, whether in the draft or free agency. When you have a QB like Allen you need to make sure he has weapons. I’m okay with even a first round pick on WR. Maybe they can even find a good WR like Juju Smith-Schuster in FA, heck, do both. let me state some facts. Bease has a 73% catch rate. That is the same as Cooper Kupp That is also 3 % lower that Diggs https://www.nfl.com/_amp/top-10-most-reliable-nfl-pass-catchers-hunter-renfrow-vikings-duo-among-trustwor You just don’t let that go if you can avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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