Week 18: Jets at Bills - a W wins the AFC East!

[FLFan]

2 hours ago, FFadpecr said:

 

They will be 10-7 after beating JAX.

 

They started out 1-5.

 

Which means a 9-2 finish in the final 11 games. 1 of the 2 losses they blew a 14 point lead and lost in OT to the Titans. The other loss was by 3 this past weekend.

 

Colts are a sleeping giant in the playoffs.

 

In last year's playoff game, the Colts won the LOS on both sides of the ball. A miracle 2-minute TD drive right before halftime saved that game.

The Colts will not be able to hide Carson Wentz in the playoffs.  There will come a time when the game will be in his hands and that will be the real test for the Colts, one which he will very likely fail.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, Logic said:

Nope, I remember it vividly.

 

Its just that :

 

1) The Bills are playing much better now than they were then

 

2) I believe the Bills would be fired up for revenge against a team that bullied them earlier in the year

 

3) Intentionally losing the division crown and a home playoff game to the Patriots in order to avoid ANY team, let alone a Carson Wentz QB’d Wild Card team, is loser mentality, cowardly sissy foolishness

 

4) The most likely outcome if we go in as the 7th seed is a trip to KC in the opening round. If you think we have a better chance of beating the Chiefs at Arrowhead than the Colts at home, I think you’re nuts

 

 

In conclusion: don’t be a coward. Win the division for a second straight season (only the third time we’ll have EVER done that) and let the chips fall where they may. Fear no one.

Assuming edmunds plays I think we will be a lot more successful at slowing the colts down.  Despite looking clueless at times he is pretty stout against the run when compared to Milano and aj Klein had a really rough game filling in for him at mlb in that colts game.  We also played nickel pretty much the whole game…gotta think that’s due to the edmunds injury too. 

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

The Colts are probably our worst matchup in the Playoffs but I think we will be fine if our offense brings its A game.

I don’t think so…titans with a healthy-ish Derrick Henry would be worse.  Also people that think our pass rush has underperformed which seems to be the majority around these parts should not feel great about a road game with the chiefs.  Colts stomped us in the first matchup no doubt…but they are a bit of a poor man’s titans.  And the patriots are a bit of a poor man’s colts lol

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 hours ago, FFadpecr said:

 

They will be 10-7 after beating JAX.

 

They started out 1-5.

 

Which means a 9-2 finish in the final 11 games. 1 of the 2 losses they blew a 14 point lead and lost in OT to the Titans. The other loss was by 3 this past weekend.

 

Colts are a sleeping giant in the playoffs.

 

In last year's playoff game, the Colts won the LOS on both sides of the ball. A miracle 2-minute TD drive right before halftime saved that game.

Phil rivers was absolutely masterful in reading our defense’s coverages that game…credit to josh Allen for carrying us to a huge win…and gabe Davis as well.  Wentz might be ahead of what rivers was physical talent wise but he is nowhere close in diagnosing a defense. 
 

also…colts had 3 wins by the time they hit 5 losses.  Their schedule was front loaded with a lot of good teams and they lost a lot of those games…no surprise there that’s what happens with mediocre teams.  A lot of times this whole ‘a team got hot’ narrative is exaggerated wildly by scheduling. 
 

that’s kind of why our season has been so interesting…we have always shown up against great teams and the few stinkers we have had have been against bad/decent teams.  

Edited January 5, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[YattaOkasan]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Agreed. People forget how flukey that game was, and how it got away from us. Even Wentz’s miracle sack escape was a game changing play.

 

I think it would be a lot different game if we played them again. Taylor always gets his yards, but I have faith that we can contain him better the second time around. 

The McKenzie untouched fumble on a kickoff was pretty bad. I don’t understand people clamoring for him to return again. It wasn’t just one mistake that did him in.  For the record, Stephenson also makes me super nervous 

Edited January 5, 2022 by YattaOkasan

[Roundybout]

Seems like we need to root heavily for LV this weekend. If they and New England both win, we will get the Raiders in the wild card. 

[Franco_92]

6 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

Seems like we need to root heavily for LV this weekend. If they and New England both win, we will get the Raiders in the wild card. 

This is only true if Bengals lose

[Mark Vader]

8 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

Already looking forward to the GOAT (Kevin Harlan) on the call for Sunday

Let's hope for a streaker during the game

[clayboy54]

17 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Let's hope for a streaker during the game

Or, a cat on the field!

[Sestak4ever]

To be the best we need to beat the best. We can beat any of the playoff teams if our offense is clicking, regardless of our opponent.

[LABILLBACKER]

3 hours ago, Logic said:

Nope, I remember it vividly.

 

Its just that :

 

1) The Bills are playing much better now than they were then

 

2) I believe the Bills would be fired up for revenge against a team that bullied them earlier in the year

 

3) Intentionally losing the division crown and a home playoff game to the Patriots in order to avoid ANY team, let alone a Carson Wentz QB’d Wild Card team, is loser mentality, cowardly sissy foolishness

 

4) The most likely outcome if we go in as the 7th seed is a trip to KC in the opening round. If you think we have a better chance of beating the Chiefs at Arrowhead than the Colts at home, I think you’re nuts

 

 

In conclusion: don’t be a coward. Win the division for a second straight season (only the third time we’ll have EVER done that) and let the chips fall where they may. Fear no one.

So true. We need to be mentally prepared to take on any kind of team. The power run like Indy or Tenn. Or a team with a dynamic qb like KC or LAC. It's too late to stress over getting a 1 or 2 seed. Beat the Jets convincingly and reward yourself with another AFCE Championship. Whoever we get, we get.  Attack them.....

[Meatloaf63]

On 1/4/2022 at 11:09 AM, Bob in STL said:

We never worried about weather in the Kelly/Marv era.  We actually welcomed bad weather.  

 

It just shows how much the game has changed, and how differently the two Bills teams are built.    The "If its too tough for them its just right for us" mentality is gone.  

 

Daboll better have a run game, with a run package, in the game plan.  Not only for this week but for next week as well.  We need to 

have a more diverse attack and not depend on Allen passes and Allen runs for 90 % of our yards. 

 

 

 

Daboll better not be scared to let Allen throw the ball like he was for 3/4 of the patriots game.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, YattaOkasan said:

The McKenzie untouched fumble on a kickoff was pretty bad. I don’t understand people clamoring for him to return again. It wasn’t just one mistake that did him in.  For the record, Stephenson also makes me super nervous 

 

That last sentence is the reason some of us would prefer to see McKenzie.  Stevenson has what, a muff and 2 fumbles in 5 games?  

That’s more than McKenzie has done this season.

[97bills]

On 1/4/2022 at 4:08 PM, BillsFan619 said:

While every scenario, game, team and year are different, if history is any indicator, McD did play to win in the final game of the year to secure the number two seed.

 

I don’t see him letting up. He wants the division and the highest seed possible.

Right after everything this year it would be stupid to let up and just give the division to NE. And every team wants to win the division. It carries over to next year look at NE all those years there first business win the division and they carried there self like it. 

[YattaOkasan]

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

That last sentence is the reason some of us would prefer to see McKenzie.  Stevenson has what, a muff and 2 fumbles in 5 games?  

That’s more than McKenzie has done this season.

Yup I totally understand but McKenzie was a concern at the start of the season and has had trouble. I’m at the point I just want Hyde back there to fair catch them all. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Weather is looking bad again during game time. Wind gusts in excess of 30 MPH. 

[LeGOATski]

16 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Weather is looking bad again during game time. Wind gusts in excess of 30 MPH. 

#givemedomekim

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

5 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Holy ***** dude, turn in your fan card

 

The Bills defeated the Colts in the 2020 playoffs I recall. Probably they had a better Qb last year too

 

Quoted the wrong person but still. We literally did this last year.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by Tom Donahoe, GM

[Ray Stonada]

It’s really only Wednesday?

 

Feels like ages since Falcons game. 

 

Fast forward to Sunday, please!

[CSBill]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

That last sentence is the reason some of us would prefer to see McKenzie.  Stevenson has what, a muff and 2 fumbles in 5 games?  

That’s more than McKenzie has done this season.

All things considered, I would much prefer McKenzie back there. 

[Richard Noggin]

6 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

The Colts are probably our worst matchup in the Playoffs but I think we will be fine if our offense brings its A game.

I think this sentiment is true of any game the 2021 Bills play: if the offense really shows up, then they've got a chance to beat any team. 

 

The Bills lose when the offense sputters. Periodt.

[buffblue]

2 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

Yup I totally understand but McKenzie was a concern at the start of the season and has had trouble. I’m at the point I just want Hyde back there to fair catch them all. 

This is where I'm at. Both McKenzie and Stevenson scare the living daylights out of me. 

 

I believe we're a good enough team that having an explosive but gaffe prone returner is a gamble we don't need to take.

[Scott7975]

56 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

I think this sentiment is true of any game the 2021 Bills play: if the offense really shows up, then they've got a chance to beat any team. 

 

The Bills lose when the offense sputters. Periodt.

 

I agree

[Richard Noggin]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I agree

Gotta be damn near a consensus among Bills fans, I'd think. Which is rare. 

 

Forget the run defense. Forget the weather. Forget the refs (although eff them, of course).

 

The 2021 Bills can beat ANY team in the NFL when their offense lives up to (even a portion of) its potential. 

 

EVERY 2021 loss can be blamed on the offense, except probably/maybe the Colts game. One could still argue that if the Bills hadn't pooped the bed early, and especially hadn't turned the ball over (ahem, Isaiah, for example), that the game would have progressed differently. Either way. That's useless conjecture.

 

5 of their 6 losses this season involve the offense having a chance to win the game late and failing to do so. Not to mention any squandered drives and opportunities prior to crunch time. 

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

That last sentence is the reason some of us would prefer to see McKenzie.  Stevenson has what, a muff and 2 fumbles in 5 games?  

That’s more than McKenzie has done this season.

Playing McKenzie in the short term should be the lesser of 2 evils. Stevenson looks lost out there with no instincts. Just straight line speed. Isaiah at least can make a couple cuts here and there. At this point if you really want to play it safe let Hyde do punts and McK kickoffs.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 hours ago, Sestak4ever said:

To be the best we need to beat the best. We can beat any of the playoff teams if our offense is clicking, regardless of our opponent.

Still though…no team just steamrolls their way to the superbowl and wins it.  You want the easiest path possible there’s no bonuses for style points lol 

[78thealltimegreat]

Bills/Jets is CBS 4:25 national game too…good the brighter the lights the better Josh plays 

[UKBillFan]

Stevenson is a hideous returner and I don’t get why he gets chance after chance after fumbling more than once and constantly running into blockers. McKenzie is the lesser of two evils though admit we need better options.

[BobbyC81]

8 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Weather is looking bad again during game time. Wind gusts in excess of 30 MPH. 

So, will Daboll have them come out throwing on every down again until McD sets him straight?

 

 

6 hours ago, buffblue said:

This is where I'm at. Both McKenzie and Stevenson scare the living daylights out of me. 

 

I believe we're a good enough team that having an explosive but gaffe prone returner is a gamble we don't need to take.

In hindsight, I think they should’ve used the money they spent on Sanders and Breida to bring Roberts back as the returner.

Edited January 6, 2022 by BobbyC81

[AmishRifle]

15 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said:

So, will Daboll have them come out throwing on every down again until McD sets him straight?

 

 

In hindsight, I think they should’ve used the money they spent on Sanders and Breida to bring Roberts back as the returner.

I was thinking the same thing about Roberts.  Knowing what we know now, money we’ll spent.

[Dan]

9 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:

It’s really only Wednesday?

 

Feels like ages since Falcons game. 

 

Fast forward to Sunday, please!

Tell me about it!  It’s been so long everyone forgot who we’re playing this coming Sunday or did they flex the team we’re playing as well and we face the Colts at 4:25? 

[Greg S]

Blue over white.

 

 

 

[billsherd]

On 1/4/2022 at 11:48 AM, Greg S said:

Looks like blue jerseys again with the pants to be TBA.

 

 

 

I thought the uniform were decided before season starts why they have TBA for pants?  

[Greg S]

4 minutes ago, billsherd said:

I thought the uniform were decided before season starts why they have TBA for pants?  

 

I guess the jerseys are but not the pants. I honestly don't know.

[clayboy54]

36 minutes ago, billsherd said:

I thought the uniform were decided before season starts why they have TBA for pants?  

They might decide to wear Speedos instead, just for the shock value.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

Utterly fascinating:

 

 

[Dr. Who]

10 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Utterly fascinating:

 

 

Alright, Mr. Happy Thoughts, there's the hard-nosed folks who are going to respond "you are what your record says you are," but I do think this implies the Bills are stronger than their record. The Titans are annoying, because they seem to win most of the close ones. Hopefully they retreat to the mean in the post-season.

[JustHewIt]

15 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Utterly fascinating:

 

 

That's pretty wild!  IMO the biggest reason why this year has been so stressful and polarizing for the fanbase.  It's hard to take those stomach punch losses over and over knowing that we're a good team.  I'd much rather just get blown out once in a while, chalk it up to a bad week and move on

[Ray Stonada]

19 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Utterly fascinating:

 

 

Wow! And Tampa Bay wouldn’t even be in the playoffs.

[PromoTheRobot]

How snow is Highmark getting? Looking at this tweet maybe not that much. Still, they are going to need to shovel the place out again.

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

How snow is Highmark getting? Looking at this tweet maybe not that much. Still, they are going to need to shovel the place out again.

 

 

 

This is how I will watch every weather update until Sunday...praying it misses Highmark.