Josh Allen Complaints

[george c]

Is just me who feels this way, or do others feel that Josh is complaining to the refs a little too much when he is hit?

The Monday night game was not a good look for Josh. The complaints were on every hit, and at some point, the refs may not give him a roughing call when he really deserves it.  

 

 

[Dr. Who]

Just now, george c said:

Is just me who feels this way, or do others feel that Josh is complaining to the refs a little too much when he is hit?

The Monday night game was not a good look for Josh. The complaints were on every hit, and at some point, the refs may not give him a roughing call when he really deserves it.  

 

 

I dunno, maybe he's imitating Brady and forgot he plays for the wrong team.

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, george c said:

Is just me who feels this way, or do others feel that Josh is complaining to the refs a little too much when he is hit?

The Monday night game was not a good look for Josh. The complaints were on every hit, and at some point, the refs may not give him a roughing call when he really deserves it.  

 

 

He's certainly complaining too much for the refs about not getting Offside calls when he shouldn't actually be getting them. He lets the play get away from him on those plays and they always end up badly.

[LabattBlue]

It doesn’t matter if he complains or not…don’t you know the refs and the NFL have it out for the Bills?  At least that is what the tin foil hat wearing people here will tell you…especially when the Bills lose. 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Josh Allen deserves a ***** flag when Josh Allen asks for a ***** flag

[RoyBatty is alive]

IT JUST YOU.

 

It doesnt hurt to complain to the Refs.

[Gugny]

The more complaining and flopping we can do, the better.

 

Sometimes it works; often times it doesn't.  When it works, it helps.  When it doesn't, there's no negative impact.

 

[Dr. Who]

Just now, Gugny said:

The more complaining and flopping we can do, the better.

 

Sometimes it works; often times it doesn't.  When it works, it helps.  When it doesn't, there's no negative impact.

 

Unless you're Jerry Hughes, but now he's too old and beat up for it to matter. Damn, I resemble that.

[hondo in seattle]

He complains too much. 

 

But it's not a big deal.

[BuffaloBillyG]

7 minutes ago, Gugny said:

The more complaining and flopping we can do, the better.

 

Sometimes it works; often times it doesn't.  When it works, it helps.  When it doesn't, there's no negative impact.

 

Until you get a reputation as a guy that flops and begs for flags and the refs no longer give you the benefit of the doubt. 

 

And it's not just Allen. It's most QBs in the NFL, it's every WR looking for PI on a routine incomplete. 

[streetkings01]

This message board really sucks right now 

[SCBills]

He should absolutely complain... that Judon hit is a flag 95% of the time this year.  

 

But for the love of God, STOP TRYING TO DRAW DEFENSES OFFSIDE

 

Either we jump, or they jump and we think it's a free play when it's not.  

 

Edited December 8, 2021 by SCBills

[TC in St. Louis]

I hadn't noticed.  He can see guys jump Offside, and twice has been hurt by the missed calls.  I don't see how these calls are missed.  When I can see it 800 miles away, live on t.v., I think the officials should see it too.  However, if he thinks he has a free play, he should try and put the ball in a catchable position.  His throw to Knox was way off.

 

If any player thinks he's right, he has the right to protest.  

[dave mcbride]

4 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said:

I hadn't noticed.  He can see guys jump Offside, and twice has been hurt by the missed calls.  I don't see how these calls are missed.  When I can see it 800 miles away, live on t.v., I think the officials should see it too.  However, if he thinks he has a free play, he should try and put the ball in a catchable position.  His throw to Knox was way off.

 

If any player thinks he's right, he has the right to protest.  

Because guys moved but didn't actually jump. In both the Miami and NE games, guys shifted but never crossed. 

[Gugny]

12 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Until you get a reputation as a guy that flops and begs for flags and the refs no longer give you the benefit of the doubt. 

 

And it's not just Allen. It's most QBs in the NFL, it's every WR looking for PI on a routine incomplete. 

 

I don't see that kind of retaliation happening against QBs and WRs, though.

[John from Riverside]

40 minutes ago, george c said:

Is just me who feels this way, or do others feel that Josh is complaining to the refs a little too much when he is hit?

The Monday night game was not a good look for Josh. The complaints were on every hit, and at some point, the refs may not give him a roughing call when he really deserves it.  

 

 

Star qbs do that

[cage]

Working the refs is a long-standing QB tactic

[corta765]

31 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Until you get a reputation as a guy that flops and begs for flags and the refs no longer give you the benefit of the doubt. 

 

And it's not just Allen. It's most QBs in the NFL, it's every WR looking for PI on a routine incomplete. 

 

Agreed. My biggest complaint with soccer is the flopping and acting like you were shot 7 times over. But my understanding is it is just because refs buy into these moves so the players do it until it doesn't work.

Same concept here and any player not working it is failing in my eyes.

[Mat68]

51 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

He's certainly complaining too much for the refs about not getting Offside calls when he shouldn't actually be getting them. He lets the play get away from him on those plays and they always end up badly.

First two this season were bad.  The last 2 including Monday night the defender was clearly in the neutral zone.  Free play.  I feel like the refs are being more stingy with it when Buffalo led the league last year. 

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Mat68 said:

First two this season were bad.  The last 2 including Monday night the defender was clearly in the neutral zone.  Free play.  I feel like the refs are being more stingy with it when Buffalo led the league last year. 

I personally didn't think the player had crossed. Regardless, it was hardly an easy one to call and you've gotta play like the call never happened. Which would be smart anyway because he's failed on all of his hard counts this season and should assume they're not going to work. That throw he made was a lazy high throw basically 10 yards behind the receiver who was covered. Didn't even try to read the field on that play.

[78thealltimegreat]

57 minutes ago, george c said:

Is just me who feels this way, or do others feel that Josh is complaining to the refs a little too much when he is hit?

The Monday night game was not a good look for Josh. The complaints were on every hit, and at some point, the refs may not give him a roughing call when he really deserves it.  

 

 

You know I heard similar things about Jimmy Johnson and last I checked he’s got three Lombardi trophies two at the bills expense…so Josh go complain away

[Ramza86]

He should keep complaining and flopping every chance he gets.

[BuffaninSarasota]

44 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

This message board really sucks right now 

 

Right now ?

[fasteddie]

My only complaint is that on the 4th down pass, he just lofted the throw instead of putting some zip on the ball. The pass fluttered in the wind, which allowed the DB to come back for the ball. Davis would  have been about 5 yards deep in the end zone where the off defender could not have reached it. 

Not only that, the pass was poorly underthrown. 

Oh well. On to Tampa.

[GymShorts84]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

He's certainly complaining too much for the refs about not getting Offside calls when he shouldn't actually be getting them. He lets the play get away from him on those plays and they always end up badly.

I don’t think they showed a great replay of the Offside that wasn’t called this week, but it sure looked like both DTs moved.  Either way, throwing a jump ball to the Tight End there was pretty useless. 
 

In general, I am tired of the obvious hard counts with no plan to snap the ball. 

9 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

My only complaint is that on the 4th down pass, he just lofted the throw instead of putting some zip on the ball. The pass fluttered in the wind, which allowed the DB to come back for the ball. Davis would  have been about 5 yards deep in the end zone where the off defender could not have reached it. 

Not only that, the pass was poorly underthrown. 

Oh well. On to Tampa.

He threw off his back foot because of the pressure, but if there’s a time to step up and take a hit, it’s on 4th down to win a game. 

[TheFunPolice]

We need to forget about ever getting a free play on an Offside.

 

That has ended drives and cost us a premium play in the Red Zone the other night too. 

 

They are just not calling those anymore. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, TC in St. Louis said:

I hadn't noticed.  He can see guys jump Offside, and twice has been hurt by the missed calls.  I don't see how these calls are missed.  When I can see it 800 miles away, live on t.v., I think the officials should see it too.  However, if he thinks he has a free play, he should try and put the ball in a catchable position.  His throw to Knox was way off.

 

If any player thinks he's right, he has the right to protest.  

Also Allen should stop snapping the ball on the 3rd hut every time he goes hard count.  it can't help that defensive lines around the league have figured out our snap count. 

[Coach Tuesday]

The irony of this complaint thread...

[CincyBillsFan]

Wow, another way to take a shot at Allen from the "wrong Josh" crowd.  Good thing there aren't that many of them left on this board.  But hey, given that Allen was by far the best Bills offensive player on the field Monday night they can't complain about his play without looking like fools. So instead we get this.

 

 

[ngbills]

Only complaint is when he assumes the free play before its called. 

[Buftex]

As disappointed as I am with this team right now, Josh Allen is the very least of my concerns.  Kid is fantastic. 

[george c]

47 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Wow, another way to take a shot at Allen from the "wrong Josh" crowd.  Good thing there aren't that many of them left on this board.  But hey, given that Allen was by far the best Bills offensive player on the field Monday night they can't complain about his play without looking like fools. So instead we get this.

 

 

LOL…Weird and divisive, but whatever… “Wrong Josh crowd”, what a weak, weak  accusation.

I don’t think that there is a single “Wrong Josh” person on this part of the world. There is no one we would rather have in Buffalo than Josh Allen. 
My posted question has NOTHING to do negatively with Josh Allen’s incredible play, other than wondering if he should keep some of the complaint cards in his pocket when he really needs them, instead of spending them in every game. 
 

We complain about Tom Brady and his constant whining when he is hit, but after his obvious success, he has earned that right by the officials obvious protection... 
Josh?, and other QB in the league for that matter….not just yet. 

 

 

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Edited December 8, 2021 by george c

[SoCal Deek]

The problem Josh is having (like many of the Bills players and coaches) is that they're don't appear to be focused on the task at hand. I could've understood this last year during the height of Covid with all of those distractions, but it's time for these guys to worry about one thing, and one thing only....and that is what's happening on the field during the moment of the play.  Way too much chippy play, way too much chirping at the refs, way too much clowning around prior to the game!  This can be fixed but it needs to be fixed NOW.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, TC in St. Louis said:

I hadn't noticed.  He can see guys jump Offside, and twice has been hurt by the missed calls.  I don't see how these calls are missed.  When I can see it 800 miles away, live on t.v., I think the officials should see it too.  However, if he thinks he has a free play, he should try and put the ball in a catchable position.  His throw to Knox was way off.

 

If any player thinks he's right, he has the right to protest.  

 

Here's the thing... if you don't see the flag fly, why are you assuming it's called?  

[Haslett_Stomp]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

We need to forget about ever getting a free play on an Offside.

 

That has ended drives and cost us a premium play in the Red Zone the other night too. 

 

They are just not calling those anymore. 

 

Unless your name is Aaron Rodgers

[97bills]

2 hours ago, cage said:

Working the refs is a long-standing QB tactic

This 

[Mrbojanglezs]

No but Josh should make sure he sees a yellow flag fly before he thinks he has a free play. He has burned some 3rd downs this way 

[Nextmanup]

It's an interesting observation, but Josh's "complaint" behavior accounts for .0000000000001% of the reasons why we lose football games, so in that sense, who cares.

 

 

[Dopey]

2 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

Right now ?

As he was typing. He's done. We're good now.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

31 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

No but Josh should make sure he sees a yellow flag fly before he thinks he has a free play. He has burned some 3rd downs this way 

 

Yes!  And even if you do - operate in that play structure.  Don't point at the line and jockey for a call - just run the play you called.  If you want to throw up a back shoulder play and try and get an interference call sure, but if theres a 1st down to be had that you miss because you wanted an Offside - you're missing the point of the term "free play".