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Let's review the rules, or at least my understanding, because it may be less of a practical difference than you think:   1. vaccinated: test 1x per week (think it's Monday) OR if symptoms OR if exposure as a close contact Can return to play if no symptoms for 48 hrs and 2 negative tests 24 hrs apart (or after 10 days, whichever is first)   Close contact: Do not have to quarantine but must test daily for 5 days   2. unvaccinated: must be isolated for minimum 10

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2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I meant the Skins game, not the Texans.  With the way Feliciano has been playing, is it really a loss to have him out?

 

I'm not upset with anything and it certainly wouldn't be because you think I should be more concerned.  

 

I know our offensive line is a weakness, I'm very verbal about that.  I'm just not going to get overly concerned because we lost a rookie RT who has only played 4 games in which one he struggled in.  I think putting Allen under center will make a big difference.  

 

Our average scoring margin 16 points per game which is by far, by far the best in the NFL.  Dallas is #2 at 9 ppg. 

At one point, it was like 28 ppg which is insane.  We are currently +145 in scoring differential.

This is why I am not concerned at all about the loss to the Jags, it happens.

 

I guess we will disagree with upsets.  I think some days you just have bad days.  

It's why nothing is linear in the NFL.  

 

Yes, as bad as Feliciano has been... compared to Ford he is a first team pro bowler.

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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

It's not weak to say upsets happen.  Every single upset happens for a reason but you seem to think it's only an issue with the Bills.

 

I gave reasons why the other upsets happen but you only want to acknowledge the Bills offensive line issues.  

You don't think there's reasons why all the other teams I mentioned lost?  

 

The Ravens, Titans and Bucs all played terribly when they were upset...just like the Bills and it's not any different.  

The Broncos were down 3 offensive starters and the Cowboys still couldn't stop their offense.  How concerning should that be for Cowboy fans?

 

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:


Its one game.  You’re going to concern yourself this much over one game.

 

You know who is as bad as the Jags?  The Texans and Dolphins.  The same offensive line started those games and we won those 3 games a combined 101-11.  
Lets just be doom and gloom over one loss.

 

The Cowboys, Bucs and Ravens fans need to be concerned because they lost to inferior teams….some of them got killed.

That is if you base the entire season on one loss.

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I meant the Skins game, not the Texans.  With the way Feliciano has been playing, is it really a loss to have him out?

 

I'm not upset with anything and it certainly wouldn't be because you think I should be more concerned.  

 

I know our offensive line is a weakness, I'm very verbal about that.  I'm just not going to get overly concerned because we lost a rookie RT who has only played 4 games in which one he struggled in.  I think putting Allen under center will make a big difference.  

 

Our average scoring margin 16 points per game which is by far, by far the best in the NFL.  Dallas is #2 at 9 ppg. 

At one point, it was like 28 ppg which is insane.  We are currently +145 in scoring differential.

This is why I am not concerned at all about the loss to the Jags, it happens.

 

I guess we will disagree with upsets.  I think some days you just have bad days.  

It's why nothing is linear in the NFL.  

Regarding the bolded:  You’re the one that keeps bringing up fans (bills and other teams fans) being concerned.  You’re the one that quoted me and had a problem with me being concerned.  You’re the one with the imaginary thought that the only reason I’m concerned is because of one game. I’ve been concerned about the OL since last season.  I’ve been extremely vocal

about it. It has nothing to do with “just one game”.  
 

feliciano sucks.  He’s probably better than Ike.  At this point I’d rather we start anyone but those 2 guys just to see what they can do when it counts (at least for a handful of snaps).  
 

So our problem is me being concerned.   Sounds like a you problem to me.  You’re not overly concerned and I couldn’t care less about it.  Definitely not enough to continue this.  
 

We should be concerned about our OL, especially when Spencer Brown isn’t in the lineup.  Agree to disagree

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5 minutes ago, Virgil said:

If he is unvaccinated and misses two games, does he still get paid?

Depends how he got it.  Football related yes, not football related maybe no per June 2021 letter agreement between NFL and NFLPA.  Vaccinated you get paid no matter what.  Dispute on how contracted if non-vaccinated player docked would be arbitrated I suppose.

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1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I agree but a RT isn't a critical position IMO.

 

We are still a better team than the Colts.

 

when your former RT is now a RG b/c he is shaky at best at RT, and your IOL is average at best, AND your LT is having a crappy year post-COVID, I would say RT is a critical position

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1 minute ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

when your former RT is now a RG b/c he is shaky at best at RT, and your IOL is average at best, AND your LT is having a crappy year post-COVID, I would say RT is a critical position

Nothing to be concerned about 😃

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16 minutes ago, Einstein said:

with every passing week, I get more and more upset that Beane did not make a move before the deadline to acquire offensive line talent.

 

He needs to be humbled even if it comes at the expense of this team crashing and burning down the stretch watching the Pats run away with the division.

 

I do have faith though that you'll see no more of this run it back crap and resigning anybody and everybody on the roster going forward.

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So is Tommy Doyle viable as RT, to replace Brown?  Anything that keeps Cody Ford on the bench sounds good to me.

9 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Find a guy on a ps or the street that can play center in an absolutely emergency and use bates sunday. Can’t be afraid to lose your best guys because one is the backup center. Find a guy that can snap the ball incase of emergency.

Feliciano can play center.

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34 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

 

Regarding the bolded:  You’re the one that keeps bringing up fans (bills and other teams fans) being concerned.  You’re the one that quoted me and had a problem with me being concerned.  You’re the one with the imaginary thought that the only reason I’m concerned is because of one game. I’ve been concerned about the OL since last season.  I’ve been extremely vocal

about it. It has nothing to do with “just one game”.  
 

feliciano sucks.  He’s probably better than Ike.  At this point I’d rather we start anyone but those 2 guys just to see what they can do when it counts (at least for a handful of snaps).  
 

So our problem is me being concerned.   Sounds like a you problem to me.  You’re not overly concerned and I couldn’t care less about it.  Definitely not enough to continue this.  
 

We should be concerned about our OL, especially when Spencer Brown isn’t in the lineup.  Agree to disagree


I have specifically stated that this offensive line is a weakness.  I don’t have an issue with you being concerned, I just think you’re being excessive over Brown missing.

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27 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

when your former RT is now a RG b/c he is shaky at best at RT, and your IOL is average at best, AND your LT is having a crappy year post-COVID, I would say RT is a critical position

Nope doesn't matter 

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26 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

when your former RT is now a RG b/c he is shaky at best at RT, and your IOL is average at best, AND your LT is having a crappy year post-COVID, I would say RT is a critical position


The Bills moved Williams to guard to get Cody Ford out of the starting line up.  
Williams was the starter at RT throughout camp and the first 3 games of the season.

Brown is a tackle and the only spot to get him on the field.

 

I think Daboll has enough sense to understand that Allen under center has produced fantastic results.  I don’t think this last Jets game is a one time thing.

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Many of us said, the one thing that could really derail this season...was Covid, due to unvaccinated players and the rules for their availability to play with the timeline of 10 days being automatic.  We have depth, but unfortunately it's mostly on the defensive side of the ball.  At this juncture...just get through the season and make the playoffs.  If they can do that, irrespective of seeding, I'll be happy. 

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22 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:


I have specifically stated that this offensive line is a weakness.  I don’t have an issue with you being concerned, I just think you’re being excessive over Brown missing.

Well..,.,you brought up the fans of other team and whether or not they could/should be concerned.  So your clearly angling towards me being concerned and that I shouldn’t be.  The think you’re being overly critical of my remarks.  No worries.  🍻 
 

 

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2 hours ago, BananaB said:

Doyle gotta be an option at this point. The group that played in Jacksonville can’t be assembled together ever again. 

Agree.  I dont want to move Williams.  He seems to be doing better at Rg.  Im under the opinion Buffalo can scheme around RT to some extent.  Formations with numbers on the right side.  Backs and Te chip.  Not alot you can do with the RG getting blown up into Allens belly.  

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47 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Find a guy on a ps or the street that can play center in an absolutely emergency and use bates sunday. Can’t be afraid to lose your best guys because one is the backup center. Find a guy that can snap the ball incase of emergency.

 

yeah, find a guy on a PS or off the street who knows nothing about our offense - all he has to is snap the ball, right?

 

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3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

My two choices would be Bates at RT and keep Williams at RG, or move Williams to RT but try Jamil Douglas at RG

Since we haven't seen much of either, I'm not sure which would be the way to go.

 

Cody Ford just looked sheepish the last time he played RG - baaa aaaaa aaaaad

Also a horrid match up if Buckner plays.  Rather try Doyle or Bates at RT.  Leave the other 4 spots the same.  Find a replacement at Rt.  I dont blame Doyle for the sack on his snap he filled in for Dawkins.  He has been on the team all year time to see if he can play.  

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1 minute ago, Mat68 said:

Also a horrid match up if Buckner plays.  Rather try Doyle or Bates at RT.  Leave the other 4 spots the same.  Find a replacement at Rt.  I dont blame Doyle for the sack on his snap he filled in for Dawkins.  He has been on the team all year time to see if he can play.  

 

Hope is not a strategy

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3 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

Hope is not a strategy

Had to have shown something to be on the 53 since training camp.  Already had some others poached off practice and the team values him over them.  Time to earn the spot.  Time of the year rookies need to step up.  If he cant play ride with Bates.  Even if they play like Ford at Rg you can help a tackle ways you cant help guard. 

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4 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Had to have shown something to be on the 53 since training camp.  Already had some others poached off practice and the team values him over them.  Time to earn the spot.  Time of the year rookies need to step up.  If he cant play ride with Bates.  Even if they play like Ford at Rg you can help a tackle ways you cant help guard. 

 

I don't disagree - I just value Bates at RT over a rookie "to see if can play" - not at this stage of the season. Maybe early in the year vs. a team like Houston.

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6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I'm actually not as worried about this as some of you are but I understand.

 

I think Josh being under center and the playaction game will help cover up the OL weakness.  I think we will be fine.

I really don't think you can cover up a weak oline.

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