YoloinOhio Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) I’ve been following this account for 5 years or so and he definitely has a source within the team somewhere based on my observations over time. My question is… where? Cody Ford is struggling. But is brown a Guard? I feel like he’s too tall. would they move Williams to guard? He’s a better tackle throughout his career… but maybe Edited October 3, 2021 by YoloinOhio 7 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I think he was drafted to eventually replace Daryl Williams. It makes sense small school high end raw prospect who can replace Williams who is on a 3 year contract but the struggle at the guard position and Browns faster development than expected makes me think by mid season you will see: LT-Dawkins LG- Feliciano C-Morse RG-Williams RT-Brown 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) Getting the right mix and a little improvement on the O-line will probably determine how far we go this year. I’d hate to be afraid to look for options that might improve our odds. Having said that, I expect an O-Line overhaul this off season like we experienced at WR then DLine. EDIT: And I think in retrospect Spencer Brown will be looked at as the first move in the OL overhaul. It can’t completely happen in one offseason. . . Edited September 29, 2021 by Augie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 How does he compare to incarcerated bob as a source? 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Not sure where. I don't see him as an OG and Williams just had as good of a performance as you can expect against a great DE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Not sure where. I don't see him as an OG and Williams just had as good of a performance as you can expect against a great DE. If nothing else, the competition makes everyone better, I guess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: How does he compare to incarcerated bob as a source? Well, he’s not in a prison, so there’s that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrellsFinest Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I saw him destroy somebody in the miami game too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Last year Gabe was our rookie surprise, maybe this year its big Spence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Interesting. Is it easy enough for him to slide into guard? I feel like all his reps have been at tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Interesting. Is it easy enough for him to slide into guard? I feel like all his reps have been at tackle. I don’t see it. But worth watching what they do Sunday, if they experiment at all with a new 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Spencer Brown is a freak athlete. He’s pushing 6-foot-9 in height and currently lists at 311 pounds even though he’s played at even higher weights. Brown is described as “ultra lean” by PFF despite his frame and he gets some of that athletic ability from his pre-college football days. In high school, he was a defensive lineman and… tight end, running around and catching passes. Maybe him and Dawkins could catch touchdown passes in the same season? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) He's not a guard He's playing a tackle position if he starts , probably RT unless they have plans of flipping Dawkins there Edited September 29, 2021 by Buffalo716 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Maybe he will be starting as TE. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Beane on Spencer Brown: "He played right tackle. We think he can be a swing tackle, compete and be a backup year one. He went and trained with former NFL LT Joe Staley. He also caught our eye at the Senior Bowl." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Bills have two very good tackles. Brown is not starting anytime soon. Dawkins is under contract until 2024 and is only 26. William signed a 3 year deal with an out clause after 2022. He is still only 29. If all goes well Brown remains a swing OT and places in 2023. He's too tall to play center. I just don't see him making the field barring an injury or one of the tackles regressing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) Spencer isn’t gonna be a starting RT unless he is at minimum, as good as Williams doing it, it’s to important to have a stout/ sold RT, and NOT downgrade a guard position, NOW if the switch can be done and the O line is overall better, hell, who doesn’t want that? But the switch of personnel has to make the line better overall or it’s not going to happen. It’s not unlikely to see some experimentation though. We shall see, I think it’s a bit early to expect such a big change when things are proceeding in such a positive fashion. Go Bills!!! Edited September 29, 2021 by Don Otreply 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I wonder if he could cause a similar situation Dawkins caused for Glenn, where we eventually trade Williams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Williams should not be moved to guard imo. That did not go well in Carolina. He was a fail at LT and guard there. But we know he plays at a high level at RT. I know it’s just a theoretical thread but I’d hate the idea. I would almost rather see Dawkins trying to kick into guard than Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, BruceVilanch said: How does he compare to incarcerated bob as a source? No one compared to Leroi!! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Well, technically he didn’t say “starting for the Bills…” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Da webster guy said: Last year Gabe was our rookie surprise, maybe this year its big Spence. Groot says hi. (Well, to be fair, he said “I am Groot”, but we all know what he meant) Edited September 29, 2021 by buffaloboyinATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 not just a one time thing either 3 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, gobills404 said: not just a one time thing either If he is tossing folks around like this at guard I don't mind seeing him play there for now. What's not to like? Nothing against Ford or Mongo, but if this kid is getting that kind of push and playing consistent you play him. Eventually I would expect to see him move to the T spot with his length and frame, but if he can upgrade our interior now and push our vets with great competition then more power to him. Edited September 29, 2021 by WideNine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Williams should not be moved to guard imo. That did not go well in Carolina. He was a fail at LT and guard there. But we know he plays at a high level at RT. I know it’s just a theoretical thread but I’d hate the idea. I would almost rather see Dawkins trying to kick into guard than Williams I'm with you. His two best years came at right tackle (yes I'm using pff as a source). He was below average in 2019 as a guard for the Panthers. The only way I see Spencer Brown getting playing time is an injury to Dawkins or Williams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, WideNine said: If he is tossing folks around like this at guard I don't mind seeing him play there for now. What's not to like? Nothing against Ford or Mongo, but if this kid is getting that kind of push and playing consistent you play him. Eventually I would expect to see him move to the T spot with his length and frame, but if he can upgrade our interior now and push our vets with great competition then more power to him. You just can't ask somebody who's never played guard to play guard. He played right tackle his entire college career. It takes some time to adjust your footwork, stance, hand position, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: You just can't ask somebody who's never played guard to play guard. He played right tackle his entire college career. It takes some time to adjust your footwork, stance, hand position, etc... Those clips being shared in this thread ARE Spencer Brown looking pretty good playing guard. So OBD appears to have already asked him to play guard a few times and he said yes Did not appear to be struggling too much filling in. If the kid is pushing for playing time that is a good thing. Love the upside. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I’ve been following this account for 5 years or so and he definitely has a source within the team somewhere based on my observations over time. My question is… where? Cody Ford is struggling. But is brown a Guard? I feel like he’s too tall. would they move Williams to guard? He’s a better tackle throughout his career… but maybe Why do you keep saying that Cody Ford is struggling Cody Ford is not struggling he had some bad place in the third game but has been way more consistent than mongo Spencer Brown is a tackle he does not fix our interior offensive line issues he is the swing tackle for this team I feel good about where he is just in case something bad happens at that position For now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 From the second McDermott and Beane got here, it’s has been consistent. They will play the guys they just drafted. Quickly. Almost every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Brown has been a beast run blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 53 minutes ago, WideNine said: Those clips being shared in this thread ARE Spencer Brown looking pretty good playing guard. So OBD appears to have already asked him to play guard a few times and he said yes Did not appear to be struggling too much filling in. If the kid is pushing for playing time that is a good thing. Love the upside. That clip just above these posts doesn’t show Brown at guard, at all. Looks to me that he’s lined up outside RT Fwiw, he was named tackle eligible a couple of times last Sunday, and they may be thinking of using him, in those types of situations 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, WideNine said: Those clips being shared in this thread ARE Spencer Brown looking pretty good playing guard. So OBD appears to have already asked him to play guard a few times and he said yes Did not appear to be struggling too much filling in. If the kid is pushing for playing time that is a good thing. Love the upside. I don't mean to question your football IQ but the guard lines up next to the center. The tackle lines up next to the guard. Watch the clips again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I think he only gets on the field this year at tackle. If either Williams or Dawkins get hurt, he is in. If Williams's struggles of the first two weeks continue (he was much improved week 3) he is in. I'd be surprised if they decide to shuffle Williams inside for Ford to open a spot but it might happen. Have to believe they would try Ike first if they got to the point where they lost faith in Cody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Can he play tightend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, WideNine said: Those clips being shared in this thread ARE Spencer Brown looking pretty good playing guard. So OBD appears to have already asked him to play guard a few times and he said yes Did not appear to be struggling too much filling in. If the kid is pushing for playing time that is a good thing. Love the upside. I have not seen a clip at guard. There were a few clips at Tackle filling in for Williams and a clip lined up as a tackle eligible outside Williams. He appears to be a dominant run blocker in those situations. Have not seen him pass block on the right against speed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Where is Dunkirk Don when we need him? Not sure Brown will replace anyone yet, but the odds of moving a rookie into a position he has never played (Guard) at any level, are very low. If he starts this year, it will be because on of the Tackles is injured. Has he replaced Bates as the extra lineman in short yardage situations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I like the idea of tackle eligable with Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 7 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: Well, he’s not in a prison, so there’s that. When was he released? 2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: From the second McDermott and Beane got here, it’s has been consistent. They will play the guys they just drafted. Quickly. Almost every time. But only if they are of equal or better talent to the vet they replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Why do you keep saying that Cody Ford is struggling Cody Ford is not struggling he had some bad place in the third game but has been way more consistent than mongo Spencer Brown is a tackle he does not fix our interior offensive line issues he is the swing tackle for this team I feel good about where he is just in case something bad happens at that position For now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, WideNine said: If he is tossing folks around like this at guard I don't mind seeing him play there for now. What's not to like? Nothing against Ford or Mongo, but if this kid is getting that kind of push and playing consistent you play him. Eventually I would expect to see him move to the T spot with his length and frame, but if he can upgrade our interior now and push our vets with great competition then more power to him. That is at right tackle. Look at Sweeney the TE next to him. 3 hours ago, WideNine said: Those clips being shared in this thread ARE Spencer Brown looking pretty good playing guard. So OBD appears to have already asked him to play guard a few times and he said yes Did not appear to be struggling too much filling in. If the kid is pushing for playing time that is a good thing. Love the upside. The two clips shown Brown is playing RT and to the right of the RT, so tackle eligible. I don't think he's played at guard yet Edited September 29, 2021 by Not at the table Karlos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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