dwight in philly Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) A very innocent inquiry , why not really look at Kumerow ? guy has looked good here and in Green Bay.. just a wondering. Edited July 31, 2021 by dwight in philly 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I think he’s going to stick. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I think he’s going to stick. I share your optimism.., seems like a gamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rocky Landing Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Are people sleeping on Kumerow? Seems like he's getting a lot of press, and buzz. Be that as it may, I certainly wouldn't agree with keeping him over Diggs, Sanders, Beasley, Davis, or McKensie-- at least at the moment. That leaves him battling for likely one remaining spot. If we don't keep him, it's because he will have been beat out by one of the other WRs. Seems like at the moment, he's right in there for competition at that spot. But, it's way too early to say with any confidence who should get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Are people sleeping on Kumerow? Seems like he's getting a lot of press, and buzz. Be that as it may, I certainly wouldn't agree with keeping him over Diggs, Sanders, Beasley, Davis, or McKensie-- at least at the moment. That leaves him battling for likely one remaining spot. If we don't keep him, it's because he will have been beat out by one of the other WRs. Seems like at the moment, he's right in there for competition at that spot. But, it's way too early to say with any confidence who should get it. The Tanner kid seems to be doing well so far too. Will see how plays out rest of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 20 minutes ago, dwight in philly said: A very innocent inquiry , why not really look at Kumerow ? guy has looked good here and in Green Bay.. just a wondering. He looked more like WR4 or WR5 than a guy fighting for the last spot. There are A LOT of practices and preseason ahead but Hodgins and Stevenson look like they have a lot of catching up to do for either to edge out Kumerow. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I’m pretty sure they are really looking at him 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: He looked more like WR4 or WR5 than a guy fighting for the last spot. There are A LOT of practices and preseason ahead but Hodgins and Stevenson look like they have a lot of catching up to do for either to edge out Kumerow. Nothing against them.. good "problem" to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Why not? Because you generally only keep 5-6 WR's at a time. I've seen us carry 7 once or twice, but it's not very common. Plus, this season everyone wants us to keep a 6th Defensive End and a 6th Cornerback as well. And you can't keep an extra guy at all these positions without severely hindering the 53 at depth in a number of places to make it happen. So long story short, which two players do you cut at WR when your roster looks like this? Stefon Diggs Cole Beasley Emmanuel Sanders Gabe Davis Isaiah McKenzie Marquez Stevenson (2021 Draft Pick) Isaiah Hodgins (2020 Draft Pick) Jake Kumerow I'm a Kumerow fan. But we're so deep, it's really uphill sledding for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Is he the new Duke Williams? How about the old Duke Williams? Is he chopped liver now? 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Why not? Because you generally only keep 5-6 WR's at a time. I've seen us carry 7 once or twice, but it's not very common. Plus, this season everyone wants us to keep a 6th Defensive End and a 6th Cornerback as well. And you can't keep an extra guy at all these positions without severely hindering the 53 at depth in a number of places to make it happen. So long story short, which two players do you cut at WR when your roster looks like this? Stefon Diggs Cole Beasley Emmanuel Sanders Gabe Davis Isaiah McKenzie Marquez Stevenson (2021 Draft Pick) Isaiah Hodgins (2020 Draft Pick) Jake Kumerow I'm a Kumerow fan. But we're so deep, it's really uphill sledding for him. Good points. I believe there's a better chance this year for 7 WRs. OL Brown could fill a dual role of swing tackle and TE 4 (Lee Smith's role last year). If so, this would create an extra roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) Touch down Jesus would be a good keep, it’s good to have the Holy of holy catching passes… If AR wants him as a pass catching option… think about that…, The way we use receivers in this offense…, they take a lot of wear and tear, we need good backups, look at the condition of our one thru four by the time we were in the playoffs… As well, and look at the highlight of the over the middle TD reception from Josh last season, I mean really, what the hell other kind of recommendation does a guy need to get the job???? 😁👍 Go Bills!!! Edited July 31, 2021 by Don Otreply 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 The day Kumerow gets a lot of reps with the 1st team offense is when you decide to make this thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Just now, Bangarang said: The day Kumerow gets a lot of reps with the 1st team offense is when you decide to make this thread? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Is this because of a video with a catch? He is in camp getting reps. He will “ be looked at”. In terms of roster you get 6-7 wrs. Including some special teams players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Is he the new Duke Williams? How about the old Duke Williams? Is he chopped liver now? YES 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, dwight in philly said: A very innocent inquiry , why not really look at Kumerow ? guy has looked good here and in Green Bay.. just a wondering. We might he’s being given a training camp to show what he can do we might be able to sneak Hodgens back onto the practice what 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 He had a good practice today. I guess I would prefer we get through the preseason before adding players to the team. TBD loves the underdog WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Dude has one catch as a Bill. I think he’s good and an intriguing prospect, but the Bills cut him for John Brown last year when he came back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I'd rather keep him than Gilliam. But it likely will come down to Kumerow and Hodgins for the last WR spot. Like others have said if you can get a 5th for Kumerow from GB I'd make that deal if Hodgins shows anything in camp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: He looked more like WR4 or WR5 than a guy fighting for the last spot. There are A LOT of practices and preseason ahead but Hodgins and Stevenson look like they have a lot of catching up to do for either to edge out Kumerow. Yep. I think he’s a Lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: I think he’s going to stick. I really think it is time Bills fans and McBeane start to consider carrying seven WRs. Don't ask me how. Especially with our weird and over-stacked DL it would be very hard. But I love that Kumerow is big and plays special teams. I bet he knows the O well as well. I have McKenzie as a lock and either the kick or punt returner (But not probably both....I think he would get injured doing that too much. Better to split the job between two WRs. Which brings me to Stevenson. He could be a good returner while he learns WR. I also love Hodgins as a WR. Because he is not only big, but long and athletic. A leaper. We need to start developing our own weapons and Kumerow, Stevenson And Hodgins are a good place to look. We also need to be deeper with weapons so we don't run out like we did last year. I think seven gives us the weapons we need. We are weak at TE, maybe carry just two? Have some on the PS to call up if needed. IDK? I want 7 WRs and 11 DL. DL is such a mess. Do we keep Johnson who excels on STs? Obada seems too good to wave. Addison will cost us millions to wave. It's nuts. Bottom line: The Bills need to be WAY better to beat the chefs in week five (and then again in Buffalo in January). To do that we need more very good weapons on offense. And much better defense all the way around. (our STs faired rather well last winter, knock on wood.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Why not? Because you generally only keep 5-6 WR's at a time. I've seen us carry 7 once or twice, but it's not very common. Plus, this season everyone wants us to keep a 6th Defensive End and a 6th Cornerback as well. And you can't keep an extra guy at all these positions without severely hindering the 53 at depth in a number of places to make it happen. So long story short, which two players do you cut at WR when your roster looks like this? Stefon Diggs Cole Beasley Emmanuel Sanders Gabe Davis Isaiah McKenzie Marquez Stevenson (2021 Draft Pick) Isaiah Hodgins (2020 Draft Pick) Jake Kumerow I'm a Kumerow fan. But we're so deep, it's really uphill sledding for him. Right now, it doesn't seem complicated to me. Hodgins and Stevenson go to the practice squad. Edited July 31, 2021 by jeremy2020 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Why not? Because you generally only keep 5-6 WR's at a time. I've seen us carry 7 once or twice, but it's not very common. Plus, this season everyone wants us to keep a 6th Defensive End and a 6th Cornerback as well. And you can't keep an extra guy at all these positions without severely hindering the 53 at depth in a number of places to make it happen. So long story short, which two players do you cut at WR when your roster looks like this? Stefon Diggs Cole Beasley Emmanuel Sanders Gabe Davis Isaiah McKenzie Marquez Stevenson (2021 Draft Pick) Isaiah Hodgins (2020 Draft Pick) Jake Kumerow I'm a Kumerow fan. But we're so deep, it's really uphill sledding for him. I bet if stevenson ***** good he gets the redshirt IR spot for the year. 2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Why not? Because you generally only keep 5-6 WR's at a time. I've seen us carry 7 once or twice, but it's not very common. Plus, this season everyone wants us to keep a 6th Defensive End and a 6th Cornerback as well. And you can't keep an extra guy at all these positions without severely hindering the 53 at depth in a number of places to make it happen. So long story short, which two players do you cut at WR when your roster looks like this? Stefon Diggs Cole Beasley Emmanuel Sanders Gabe Davis Isaiah McKenzie Marquez Stevenson (2021 Draft Pick) Isaiah Hodgins (2020 Draft Pick) Jake Kumerow I'm a Kumerow fan. But we're so deep, it's really uphill sledding for him. I bet if stevenson ***** good he gets the redshirt IR spot for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Anyone think they gave him all the reps today because of the national media attention? Were they shopping him today? First this week Rodgers comes out and specially calls him out, again. Then he is a featured receiver on national media day. Me thinks he is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, billybrew1 said: I really think it is time Bills fans and McBeane start to consider carrying seven WRs. Don't ask me how. Especially with our weird and over-stacked DL it would be very hard. But I love that Kumerow is big and plays special teams. I bet he knows the O well as well. I have McKenzie as a lock and either the kick or punt returner (But not probably both....I think he would get injured doing that too much. Better to split the job between two WRs. Which brings me to Stevenson. He could be a good returner while he learns WR. I also love Hodgins as a WR. Because he is not only big, but long and athletic. A leaper. We need to start developing our own weapons and Kumerow, Stevenson And Hodgins are a good place to look. We also need to be deeper with weapons so we don't run out like we did last year. I think seven gives us the weapons we need. We are weak at TE, maybe carry just two? Have some on the PS to call up if needed. IDK? I want 7 WRs and 11 DL. DL is such a mess. Do we keep Johnson who excels on STs? Obada seems too good to wave. Addison will cost us millions to wave. It's nuts. Bottom line: The Bills need to be WAY better to beat the chefs in week five (and then again in Buffalo in January). To do that we need more very good weapons on offense. And much better defense all the way around. (our STs faired rather well last winter, knock on wood.) The thing is, the 7th WR will likely not even be on the game day 53. That's why you don't carry 7. You hate to cut talent, but there's a reason teams don't carry 7 , because they never get on the field. If he's top 6, cool, but 7th won't cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Are people sleeping on Kumerow? Seems like he's getting a lot of press, and buzz. Be that as it may, I certainly wouldn't agree with keeping him over Diggs, Sanders, Beasley, Davis, or McKensie-- at least at the moment. That leaves him battling for likely one remaining spot. If we don't keep him, it's because he will have been beat out by one of the other WRs. Seems like at the moment, he's right in there for competition at that spot. But, it's way too early to say with any confidence who should get it. yup. It’s not a knock on him to say he’s on the bubble behind very good players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I say cut him just to show Josh we mean business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: Right now, it doesn't seem complicated to me. Hodgins and Stevenson go to the practice squad. Cutting two draft picks to keep Kumerow? I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Touch down Jesus would be a good keep, it’s good to have the Holy of holy catching passes… If AR wants him as a pass catching option… think about that…, The way we use receivers in this offense…, they take a lot of wear and tear, we need good backups, look at the condition of our one thru four by the time we were in the playoffs… As well, and look at the highlight of the over the middle TD reception from Josh last season, I mean really, what the hell other kind of recommendation does a guy need to get the job???? 😁👍 Go Bills!!! Aaron Rodgers also wanted Randall Cobb, he of 383 yards and 2 TDS his final season in Green Bay. Seems more like he’s power tripping than actually grasping at true talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I think the early buzz was about Hodgins, so Kumerow was overlooked or forgotten to some extent, despite the fact that Hodgins hasn't played an NFL game. One of the two will make the 53, and Kumerow is the odds on favorite because of his experience and ST ability. I don't think it will be all that difficult to get Hodgins on the PS since he's a 7th round draft pick that hasn't played an NFL game, and he needs that experience. I think the WRs will be Diggs, Sanders, Beasley, Davis, McKenzie, and Kumerow, with Hodgins and Stevenson on the PS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) We do seem to have more quality receivers than we will start the season with. This is a good thing for us, not so much for the guys who don't make it, although getting film catching Josh passes can't hurt getting onto another team. We probably have five receivers who are better than any of the receivers we had some years during the drought. This will get sorted. Someone will get hurt during preseason. Some other team will discover their receivers aren't good enough, and will come looking for a trade. The high numbers of receivers and O linemen who can actually play is making competition tough and the team tougher, and they're like cash Beane can convert into draft picks. Edited August 1, 2021 by Utah John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Lol. The guy is 29 years old and has 21 NFL receptions! I'm sure he's a nice player whose reaching his peak, but we'd be nuts to keep him over Stevenson or Hodgins if they're showing any promise during camp. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 4 hours ago, dwight in philly said: I share your optimism.., seems like a gamer Reminds me of Jordy Nelson 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: Is he the new Duke Williams? How about the old Duke Williams? Is he chopped liver now? Duke Williams turned into Gabe Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 He was running with the 1st team offense today. Definitely think he sticks. Could we have 7 WR’s on roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: Aaron Rodgers also wanted Randall Cobb, he of 383 yards and 2 TDS his final season in Green Bay. Seems more like he’s power tripping than actually grasping at true talent. Oh sure, bring that up…, 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Cutting two draft picks to keep Kumerow? I don't see it. Hodgins may have been drafted but he hasn’t had a good camp so far and he doesn’t play ST. He has PS written all over him IMO. To be fair it’s early in camp, only been 4 practices. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Cole Beasley insurance. I like him too. They need to keep that weapons cupboard stocked in case anybody misses time so it makes sense to try to figure out how to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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