YoloinOhio Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Which departed player will be the most impactful to the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Ty Nsekhe He could fill in at either tackle spot and not miss a beat. I don't feel quite as comfortable with Bobby Hart and 2 rookies behind our starters. Edited July 23, 2021 by Allen2Diggs 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I really think we’ll miss roberts he was a great returner 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, WMDman said: I really think we’ll miss roberts he was a great returner Yeah, dude could flip field position in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I voted Roberts. People slept on him. While he made an occasional frustrating decision to bring it out on kick off, that same aggression set us up with great field position on punt returns. Personally, I hope Stevenson is up to the task as a rookie. I like his potential as a receiver long term, but he’ll have to earn his keep as a returner more than likely to stick on this roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) How is Lee Smith not on this list? That's despicable. Also anyone that votes Bojo automatically gets banned I've been told. Edited July 23, 2021 by DJB 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, DJB said: How is Lee Smith not on this list? That's despicable. Also anyone that votes Bojo automatically gets banned I've been told. He went in the “Other” category because he was often inactive. Though I’m sure Knox is missing his buddy big time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patzen Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I went with Nsekhe because if there's an injury early in the season to one of our tackles, Brown probably won't be ready to step in. I liked Roberts but I thought pretty highly of our ST blocking unit and I think as long as our new returner/returners don't have fumblitis we should be good to go back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 No one dances to Renegade like Barkley 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, patzen said: I went with Nsekhe because if there's an injury early in the season to one of our tackles, Brown probably won't be ready to step in. I liked Roberts but I thought pretty highly of our ST blocking unit and I think as long as our new returner/returners don't have fumblitis we should be good to go back there. Never fear we have Bobby Hart 😳 1 minute ago, Virgil said: No one dances to Renegade like Barkley That song came on the radio yesterday and that was the first thing I thought of was him swinging the parka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patzen Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Never fear we have Bobby Hart 😳 Excuse me while I go vomit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I said Marlowe because I remember reading he played a lot of snaps. Wont be surprised if it’s Roberts though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagne591 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I voted for other which translates to (none of them). All this buzz about Roberts....yes he was a good returner but her was just north and south kind of guy who tried to plow over guys with no juke moves what so ever. I think McKenzie will be a big upgrade at punt return specialist (he has juke moves and speed that will make guys miss exhibit A go see week 17 last year against Miami dude is 1 for 1 last year on punt returns with 1 TD). I think the KR duties will be a wash. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, wagne591 said: I voted for other which translates to (none of them). All this buzz about Roberts....yes he was a good returner but her was just north and south kind of guy who tried to plow over guys with no juke moves what so ever. I think McKenzie will be a big upgrade at punt return specialist (he has juke moves and speed that will make guys miss exhibit A go see week 17 last year against Miami dude is 1 for 1 last year on punt returns with 1 TD). I think the KR duties will be a wash. Simply not true. What roberts lacked in top end speed he made up for with elite vision and feel. One cut and go type of returner I’ll give you that. But it was almost always the right cut. Guy was an asset. Hands down…. He definitely wasn’t just running head first into defenders. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Losing Roberts has to be the biggest risk. All others were replaced adequately. Maybe Stevenson can make a splash. But rookie returners are usually good for 3-4 muffs during the season. 21 minutes ago, Virgil said: No one dances to Renegade like Barkley C'mon, Virg! Have you even given Mitch's boogie a chance?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagne591 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: Simply not true. What roberts lacked in top end speed he made up for with elite vision and feel. One cut and go type of returner I’ll give you that. But it was almost always the right cut. Guy was an asset. Hands down…. He definitely wasn’t just running head first into defenders. I didn't say he wasn't an asset I just said he wont be missed. We saw all he could do and he was never going to break one like McKenzie did. To me the dude was consistent yes but we saw all he could do. I think there is a lot more upside with McKenzie who can make a big play on ST when we need one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, wagne591 said: I didn't say he wasn't an asset I just said he wont be missed. We saw all he could do and he was never going to break one like McKenzie did. To me the dude was consistent yes but we saw all he could do. I think there is a lot more upside with McKenzie who can make a big play on ST when we need one. Very much a McKelvin boom or bust feeling for me. I actually like the consistency of Roberts, but a TD here of there will be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I voted Marlow, I think it’ll be a monster loss for us if Poyer or Hyde get dinged up 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I voted Andre Roberts. I've been rewatching the games from 2020. That dude was a consistent difference maker on special teams. I'm really interested to see who takes his place. Obviously, it's not rocket science. A lot of guys can return. But it was nice not having to really worry about the returner making a boneheaded decision. Roberts almost always made the right decision, and he rarely muffed it or turned the ball over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Probably Beasley... 4 2 1 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Jack Eichel. 55 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I voted Marlow, I think it’ll be a monster loss for us if Poyer or Hyde get dinged up I gave ya a Check, but I'm hoping McD knows satires And is on top of this one...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Other. Cole Beasley. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I think Matt Barkley has a burner account on here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I felt no anxiousness when Dean Marlowe took the field so he got my vote. I really liked him as a player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 It's Dre and it ain't close. He was 30 yards of field position per game last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Robert's. I don't remember many mistakes. I hope we don't have to use Hyde for punt returns. Ball security in the return game is crucial. 6 hours ago, TBBills said: Probably Beasley... He's about to be really free. Edited July 23, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Other in that one can make an argument several of these guys could help in spot duty, but there is always an opportunity cost. Roberts was an excellent returner, but a luxury pick. I think he was offered $2 mil. Or so on another team. The obvious is there was a cap reduction. The whole league is making hard decisions and there were tons of veteran middle of the pack players who were going to either take less or be cut. Beane is leaning on every tool he has to make this team work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Where is the none of them option? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Andre Roberts was the best return man in the league in 2019 and the 2nd best returner in the league in 2020. He got my vote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Where is the none of them option? That option involves ignoring the thread 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 The only one I could see as missed is Marlowe. Played a fraction of the snaps as Wallace yet produced. Nsekhe essentially never played (5% snaps) so you can't miss a guy the most because you might need him to play. Roberts made a lot of bad decisions to run kicks out of the EZ. He had 160 yards net positive on 32 returns vs touchbacks and 35 of those extra yards came on a 60 yard return. Not a top 5 punt returner (Ray Ray was better in 2020...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 While I hope it’s none as Beane knows who he has and knows all who exited are replaced, I believe it’s Robert’s. He flipped the field regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Nsekhe. Can never have too many quality O lineman. Especially one as versatile as he was. Don't think Roberts will be missed as much as many think. There are so many touchbacks now. It really has neutered what used to be the most exciting play in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That option involves ignoring the thread I think it might be Andre Roberts on KR/PR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) I also chose Roberts because I don’t see an obvious replacement for his role of what he contributed - getting the ball back to josh Allen with good field position on both KR and PR- on the roster right now. Do we have a guy who has shown he can do both and do them well? Best case scenario is that McKenzie and Stevenson both make the team, effectively handle PR and KR respectively, and make solid contributions at the WR position as well. Edited July 23, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Really good thread btw… legit got me thinking in this one. Has to be between Nsehke and Roberts. Roberts may not be an electric guy, but he typically made good decisions, was sure handed and seemed good for one 30-40 return per game to flip the field. Nsehke wasn’t noticeable at all whenever he had to step in - and for a swing tackle in a pass heavy offense, is a great thing. Marlowe was good, but I think the staff likes what they have in younger guys behind Hyde/Poyer. I trust McDermott, almost with my life, when it comes to secondary players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 It is easy to underestimate value of a high quality, reliable returner until you don't have one. Then all hell can break loose on special teams and games can be lost. We may not find ourselves in that difficult place and I hope we don't. But, I will say that I always felt good knowing Andre Roberts was back there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Not trading for McCaffrey... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, RochesterLifer said: It is easy to underestimate value of a high quality, reliable returner until you don't have one. Then all hell can break loose on special teams and games can be lost. We may not find ourselves in that difficult place and I hope we don't. But, I will say that I always felt good knowing Andre Roberts was back there. Agree completely. Flip side, it will feel good to not have a KR/PR taking a spot at WR when we pass the ball a ton. That drop, turned interception, that he had to start the game against the Titans put me on tilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said: Ty Nsekhe He could fill in at either tackle spot and not miss a beat. I don't feel quite as comfortable with Bobby Hart and 2 rookies behind our starters. Bobby Hart meets the Turk. Ryan Bates can fill in at tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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