RD 1, Pick 30: Greg Rousseau, Edge (Miami) Public Poll Added

[Shaw66]

Okay, I've had a little while to digest this.  

 

I have no idea whether this pick will turn out well or not.   It's a shot in the dark, kind of uncharacteristic for Beane.   Well, characteristic in one sense - he's unpredictable.  

 

The Rousseau pick looks a bit like the Edmunds pick - take a long, skinny guy who is something of a project and see if you can make him into a monster defender.   Edmunds was less of a question mark, but teams weren't quite sure what to make of him.   Beane went after him enthusiastically when other teams were hesitant.   Now he's gone after Rousseau.

 

Rousseau was a receiver in high school, and you can tell watching his highlights.   His full season at Miami, it was all about his athleticism and his hands.   He gets his hands on the QB, on the ball, on the ball carrier.   He has hands like a basketball rebounder.  But his lack of technique, absence of power moves, etc. also is apparent.  

 

The guy's upside is almost unimaginable.   He looks like he could play at 280 - put 20 pounds of muscle on him over the next two years.   He is high motor.   He's athletic.  Teach him some technique.  He's already shown that he can play inside a bit, and when he's bigger he actually might be able to hold his own in there.  McDermott loves that flexibility.  Who knows what Rousseau could become?   Don't get all bent out of shape here, because I'm not saying it will happen, but he has the ingredients to be a disruptor like JJ Watt.   And, of course, if Rousseau is already better than we think, if he can be an impact player by November of 2021, then the pick is a homerun - a special edge rusher added to the defense this season is probably the single biggest improvement the Bills could make.  

 

But it's an extraordinary gamble to take with your first-round pick.   Safer gamble than a pick like Maybin, because the Bills are a good team and can afford to miss on a player more than the Bills could a decade ago.  On the other hand, the Bills are close to the top, and getting a guy who could contribute as a rookie, especially getting a rookie with high probability of being able to replace one of the safeties over the next couple of seasons, would add to the Bills' competitiveness.  

 

I default to the faith I have in McDermott and Beane.  I think the pick doesn't look like as big a gamble to them as it looks to the fans.  I would guess the McBeane have gotten to know Rousseau well enough to know that he was the work ethic and intensity that they want in every player.  I would guess that they are quite sure he won't be a bust - that is, he isn't a guy they will look at three years from now and say, "well, that was a mistake."   I think they decided, they know, that Rousseau will be at least a solid contributor and at best the steal of the first round of the 2021 draft.  

 

I like it.  However, gambling like this puts the pressure on the second day picks.   Beane needs to find a couple of solid contributors.  

[Rochesterfan]

2 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

He definitely fell after landing on his vertical jump... It's not unusually for guys to land akwardley. 

 

I read someone say he slipped on the 3 cone. I can't verify if that was metaphorical or literal.

 

As for his 40, 4.68 and the best 10 second split is still elite. Even if Phillips beat his time. He ran faster than JPP and Bruce Smith for Christ sakes. 

 

On the 3 cone - it was stated he knocked over cones on his first 2 goes. The recorded score was his 3rd attempt in short succession and he was a bit winded after the first 2 bursts and he was a bit cautious trying to avoid the cones on the last go.

 

Sounded like it really impacted the timing.

[Heitz]

49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ravens fans seem to be angry, they wanted Rousseau over oweh 

 

NFL fans thinking they know more than their team's GM?  I'm SHOCKED! 🤣 

 

 

I don't have much to say on the pick - guessing Beane & McD know more than me, so ya know.  Looks like a nice potential upside on the kid, though.  The positive of taking him in the 1st is you have the 5th year option if he does develop into a beast after a couple years...

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

Can we adopt the turnover chain??

[Buffalo_Stampede]

49 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Did he really need a counter move with 19.5 sacks? Had he come out the year with Chase Young, he would’ve been a top 10 pick

That's something no one would know. Likely no. If he was rated that highly he would've still been rated that highly this year. He's no where near Chase Young. 

 

 

53 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ravens fans seem to be angry, they wanted Rousseau over oweh 

Looking at how the draft fell you really couldn't go wrong with either player. 

[Brandon]

1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

On the 3 cone - it was stated he knocked over cones on his first 2 goes. The recorded score was his 3rd attempt in short succession and he was a bit winded after the first 2 bursts and he was a bit cautious trying to avoid the cones on the last go.

 

Sounded like it really impacted the timing.

 

Taller guys usually don't do so great on the agility drills, anyway. I don't think it's much of an issue whatever the case may be. 

[BADOLBILZ]

6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Was wondering about your view given that he's a Cane. Looking at the stats, the Canes' defense was good that year (23rd in points per game given up) but the offense was pretty bad (90th in points per game). He was the top dog on that defense, it appears.

 

 

I'm by no means a homer.........seeing these guys every game I see all the warts........but Rousseau's opt out was a crushing blow for Miami.    Jaelan Phillips was a poor substitute for Rousseau.   There were games it looked like nobody WANTED to make a tackle.   UNC ran for 550 yards against the "Phillips lead" Miami in the regular season finale.   Pathetic.

[Solomon Grundy]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

That's something no one would know. Likely no. If he was rated that highly he would've still been rated that highly this year. He's no where near Chase Young. 

 

 

Time will tell!!

[Logic]

I'm just going to paste a bunch of Tweets I'm liking today, because I know a lot of people here aren't on the Twitters. Here goes:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And lastly, I'll just say...everything Bruce and Marino say in the Tweets above is right on.

Beane is betting that his coaches (and Rousseau's work ethic) can bridge the gap between what Rousseau is and what he can become. The traits are there, the potential is there, the work ethic and character are there, we have a great coaching setup with McDermott/Frazier/Washington, and a duo of crafty veterans for him to learn under.

Go get it, Groot.

Edited April 30, 2021 by Logic

[gobills404]

 

[Shaw66]

12 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

2) We have a DE on the team in Jerry Hughes who gets TONS of pressure with an impressive pass rushing skillset........but doesn't make plays.   Rousseau was surrounded by college versions of Hughes at Miami in his great year 19 age season.   Bees buzzing around the QB but Rousseau was the only one who could play with his head up and then reach out and make the plays.    

 

3) I don't see the Shaq comp at all.   That was a "meh" pick.......as I said here at the time..........low ceiling.    A more conventional, smaller guy like that needs a lot more juice to impact the QB and he simply didn't have the burst.   His get off was abysmal.   While Rousseau isn't twitchy he impacts OL quickly with the long arms and strides and powerful hands and doesn't allow them to execute their technique. 

 

 

Bado -

 

This is a really good description of what I see on the highlights of his play.   I just commented on his hands, but you captured it better.  His athleticism helps him find his way to the quarterback, somehow.   Half the time he looks like he's completely out of control when he gets there, but then his hands find the ball, or find an ankle, or find a handful of jersey.   He does look like the opposite of Shaq.   Shaq is solid, but not a closer.  This guy looks like a closer - when he gets there, he's going to make a play. 

 

I know he's put on weight since 2019, and it's clear from the video that he could carry more weight.   It's also clear from the video that he has very little technique.  He played offense in high school, I guess until his senior year, and it's easy to imagine that they just put him on the field as a defender and said "go get the ball carrier."   He didn't need technique to beat high schoolers, and he didn't have time to learn any.   Then he missed most of his true freshman season.  I think his 2019 film shows a guy who is far from reaching his potential.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

6 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Okay, I've had a little while to digest this.  

 

I have no idea whether this pick will turn out well or not.   It's a shot in the dark, kind of uncharacteristic for Beane.   Well, characteristic in one sense - he's unpredictable.  

 

The Rousseau pick looks a bit like the Edmunds pick - take a long, skinny guy who is something of a project and see if you can make him into a monster defender.   Edmunds was less of a question mark, but teams weren't quite sure what to make of him.   Beane went after him enthusiastically when other teams were hesitant.   Now he's gone after Rousseau.

 

Rousseau was a receiver in high school, and you can tell watching his highlights.   His full season at Miami, it was all about his athleticism and his hands.   He gets his hands on the QB, on the ball, on the ball carrier.   He has hands like a basketball rebounder.  But his lack of technique, absence of power moves, etc. also is apparent.  

 

The guy's upside is almost unimaginable.   He looks like he could play at 280 - put 20 pounds of muscle on him over the next two years.   He is high motor.   He's athletic.  Teach him some technique.  He's already shown that he can play inside a bit, and when he's bigger he actually might be able to hold his own in there.  McDermott loves that flexibility.  Who knows what Rousseau could become?   Don't get all bent out of shape here, because I'm not saying it will happen, but he has the ingredients to be a disruptor like JJ Watt.   And, of course, if Rousseau is already better than we think, if he can be an impact player by November of 2021, then the pick is a homerun - a special edge rusher added to the defense this season is probably the single biggest improvement the Bills could make.  

 

But it's an extraordinary gamble to take with your first-round pick.   Safer gamble than a pick like Maybin, because the Bills are a good team and can afford to miss on a player more than the Bills could a decade ago.  On the other hand, the Bills are close to the top, and getting a guy who could contribute as a rookie, especially getting a rookie with high probability of being able to replace one of the safeties over the next couple of seasons, would add to the Bills' competitiveness.  

 

I default to the faith I have in McDermott and Beane.  I think the pick doesn't look like as big a gamble to them as it looks to the fans.  I would guess the McBeane have gotten to know Rousseau well enough to know that he was the work ethic and intensity that they want in every player.  I would guess that they are quite sure he won't be a bust - that is, he isn't a guy they will look at three years from now and say, "well, that was a mistake."   I think they decided, they know, that Rousseau will be at least a solid contributor and at best the steal of the first round of the 2021 draft.  

 

I like it.  However, gambling like this puts the pressure on the second day picks.   Beane needs to find a couple of solid contributors.  

 

Having NFL nutritionists available, world class gym after a year off working out... wherever.  I'm not worried about the testing tbh, more of my concern would be about his development of moves and counters.

Just now, Shaw66 said:

Bado -

 

This is a really good description of what I see on the highlights of his play.   I just commented on his hands, but you captured it better.  His athleticism helps him find his way to the quarterback, somehow.   Half the time he looks like he's completely out of control when he gets there, but then his hands find the ball, or find an ankle, or find a handful of jersey.   He does look like the opposite of Shaq.   Shaq is solid, but not a closer.  This guy looks like a closer - when he gets there, he's going to make a play. 

 

I know he's put on weight since 2019, and it's clear from the video that he could carry more weight.   It's also clear from the video that he has very little technique.  He played offense in high school, I guess until his senior year, and it's easy to imagine that they just put him on the field as a defender and said "go get the ball carrier."   He didn't need technique to beat high schoolers, and he didn't have time to learn any.   Then he missed most of his true freshman season.  I think his 2019 film shows a guy who is far from reaching his potential.  

 

Just seeing him in a suit he looked like he could easily gain some weight.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, Logic said:

I'm just going to paste a bunch of Tweets I'm liking today, because I know a lot of people here aren't on the Twitters. Here goes:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chris Collinsworth give a decent evaluation of Rousseau. It's his length that could make him an elite edge player. He doesn't win a lot but those long arms allows him to still affect the QB. If he learns some rush moves he'll be more than a handful. 

[34-78-83]

16 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Okay, I've had a little while to digest this.  

 

I have no idea whether this pick will turn out well or not.   It's a shot in the dark, kind of uncharacteristic for Beane.   Well, characteristic in one sense - he's unpredictable.  

 

The Rousseau pick looks a bit like the Edmunds pick - take a long, skinny guy who is something of a project and see if you can make him into a monster defender.   Edmunds was less of a question mark, but teams weren't quite sure what to make of him.   Beane went after him enthusiastically when other teams were hesitant.   Now he's gone after Rousseau.

 

Rousseau was a receiver in high school, and you can tell watching his highlights.   His full season at Miami, it was all about his athleticism and his hands.   He gets his hands on the QB, on the ball, on the ball carrier.   He has hands like a basketball rebounder.  But his lack of technique, absence of power moves, etc. also is apparent.  

 

The guy's upside is almost unimaginable.   He looks like he could play at 280 - put 20 pounds of muscle on him over the next two years.   He is high motor.   He's athletic.  Teach him some technique.  He's already shown that he can play inside a bit, and when he's bigger he actually might be able to hold his own in there.  McDermott loves that flexibility.  Who knows what Rousseau could become?   Don't get all bent out of shape here, because I'm not saying it will happen, but he has the ingredients to be a disruptor like JJ Watt.   And, of course, if Rousseau is already better than we think, if he can be an impact player by November of 2021, then the pick is a homerun - a special edge rusher added to the defense this season is probably the single biggest improvement the Bills could make.  

 

But it's an extraordinary gamble to take with your first-round pick.   Safer gamble than a pick like Maybin, because the Bills are a good team and can afford to miss on a player more than the Bills could a decade ago.  On the other hand, the Bills are close to the top, and getting a guy who could contribute as a rookie, especially getting a rookie with high probability of being able to replace one of the safeties over the next couple of seasons, would add to the Bills' competitiveness.  

 

I default to the faith I have in McDermott and Beane.  I think the pick doesn't look like as big a gamble to them as it looks to the fans.  I would guess the McBeane have gotten to know Rousseau well enough to know that he was the work ethic and intensity that they want in every player.  I would guess that they are quite sure he won't be a bust - that is, he isn't a guy they will look at three years from now and say, "well, that was a mistake."   I think they decided, they know, that Rousseau will be at least a solid contributor and at best the steal of the first round of the 2021 draft.  

 

I like it.  However, gambling like this puts the pressure on the second day picks.   Beane needs to find a couple of solid contributors.  

Nice detailed take overall! Only thing though.... "Skinny"??? Where in the world are you deriving skinny from. This guy has an ideal size. Is it just that he's tall that makes you think he's skinny? Cuz he's not.

[BarleyNY]

39 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

1) Yes, look at the game logs........he was a backup player until game 7 on the schedule.   It wasn't like he got shut down by the UNC's and VT's early in the season,  these were just the first games of his college career.   

 

2) We have a DE on the team in Jerry Hughes who gets TONS of pressure with an impressive pass rushing skillset........but doesn't make plays.   Rousseau was surrounded by college versions of Hughes at Miami in his great year 19 age season.   Bees buzzing around the QB but Rousseau was the only one who could play with his head up and then reach out and make the plays.    

 

3) I don't see the Shaq comp at all.   That was a "meh" pick.......as I said here at the time..........low ceiling.    A more conventional, smaller guy like that needs a lot more juice to impact the QB and he simply didn't have the burst.   His get off was abysmal.   While Rousseau isn't twitchy he impacts OL quickly with the long arms and strides and powerful hands and doesn't allow them to execute their technique. 

 

 

I like Jerry Hughes..........it's great having the top pass rush win rate guy in the entire NFL.........but I'd prefer he got less pressures and more tackles behind the LOS.     Not saying Oweh can't be more productive than that.....but this is the kind of stuff we are talking about.   

I was not comparing him to Shaq as a player.  I was comparing the fan reactions to the two picks. 

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

I wanted JOK, Barmore, or Tryon...at least those guys were elite at certain things...unfortunately, Rousseau has “bust” written all over him...I hope I’m wrong...

Don’t worry you are..., 😁

[Shaw66]

20 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

 

I just watched this, and didn't listen to the commentary.   They show the same plays over and over again.   Watch his legs - he stays low and wide with his feet - he gets his hands on the blocker but keeps his body free, and when he reads the play, he's athletic enough to step away from the block and pursue the play.   In the NFL, the linemen are stronger and that won't work so well for Rousseau unless he gets stronger, too.   But just watch how athletic he is.  He's always ready to make the next athletic move, to change direction, to make contact with the ball carrier.  He does it on the edge, and he does it in the middle, too.  Every play he's a threat to run away from the blocker and get to the ball.  

14 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:

Nice detailed take overall! Only thing though.... "Skinny"??? Where in the world are you deriving skinny from. This guy has an ideal size. Is it just that he's tall that makes you think he's skinny? Cuz he's not.

I think he looks skinny on the video.   I think he was playing at 6'6", 240.   He's bigger now, but on the video he looks like all arms and legs.  

[par73]

This was a lousy year for DE's. Rousseau , if considered a "sure thing," would have been gone 20 picks earlier. Struggled at his Pro Day and opted out last year. I've heard several of his sacks in '19 were "coverage sacks" and that he lacks any great pass rushing moves. Needs to improve there, add strength.

He is a project with high bust potential, which is why some have conjured images of Maybin.

[buffaloboyinATL]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Yes, for Tua

I would love for the nickname Groot to stick.  Fans could yell GROOT every time he gets a sack, like we used to yell Bruuuuce!

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

One thing that really stands out to me is how he uses every inch of his length to make tackles.  In a game of inches, 11 inch hands can make a difference.  If he is within range, he goes all out to make the tackle.  It may not be a crushing, highlight reel hit, but he gets it done effectively.  He seems to know exactly how close he needs to get before selling out to make the tackle.  Granted these are just highlights, but I really like what I see.  Especially since none of the AFC East QBs are big, tackle breaking guys that can't be taken down with a hand tackle.  (I don't include Newton because he is not a long term QB in NE)

[TPS]

29 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Chris Collinsworth give a decent evaluation of Rousseau. It's his length that could make him an elite edge player. He doesn't win a lot but those long arms allows him to still affect the QB. If he learns some rush moves he'll be more than a handful. 

I like his comment: "He's just always there." (around the QB)

[Simon]

9 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Every play he's a threat to run away from the blocker and get to the ball.

 

A huge part of that is because he can actually see the ball.

Being able to play with your head up and maintain that peripheral vision in the midst of combat is a vastly underrated ability that doesn't come naturally to a lot of guys and isn't particularly coachable. That combination of vision and length should enable this guy to close fast on the ball and finish a lot of plays that other guys wouldn't.

Excellent decision from the Bills braintrust to use the #30 on this kid.

[Haze_21]

Those pro day numbers are awful like the only comparable players who worked with similarly bad measurables are jpp or tamba hali. His highlights show he has a nose for making plays in the pocket which is encouraging so I guess we are hoping for a jpp type dude making inside plays. Dont love the pick. Thought oweh made a lot of sense with our d lacking elite speed guys.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

40 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

 

The guy said it perfectly. People down on Rousseau were evaluating him as a top 5 prospect, which what some analysts were projecting early in the draft process. He says Rousseau is the type of prospect you draft in the 30's. 

 

That's exactly where he went. 

Edited April 30, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Rocket94]

12 hours ago, WideNine said:

 

Looks like he dropped because of his covid opt-out and the fact that it seems he bulked up for his pro-day and that hurt some of his quickness.

 

Not sure if I am overly concerned with that pro-day showing, an NFL training regimen will have him fill out that frame w/o losing the quickness. Could be a steal - can live with this pick.

 

 

We have to remember that For a time, Rousseau was in the top 10 conversation. Like you said...a training regimen will bring him up to speed. We haven’t seen his ceiling at all.

[Reed83HOF]

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Like what exactly.

 

On most boards he was expected right in this area.

 

He is at a position of need for depth.

 

He was one of the DEs with good scheme for what Buffalo wants.

 

He was also at a position with a huge drop off in talent - so good scheme and body fit, at a premium position, at the right time, and the pick created a run of the lesser guys right after - meaning we most likely lose out with a trade down.

 

All told I am happy with getting the pick - so much better than what was being mocked our way.

When you step back away from the pick without the emotions or what ifs, he fits Beane's first round profile to a T, the Intangibles:

 

athleticism (RAS)

Size and length

Room to grow into his frame

Younger than 22 -23

Hard worker (spent time watching film)

Cares about his family

(Not sure on wrestling background or faith)

Feeling the coaches can develop to his potential

 

Look for these characteristics in rd 2 and 3 in positions of need, Beane will move for them...

 

The players available at this pick, edge did stick out and we got in before balt and tb did. These are project guys, but the value is there. I do wonder if Newsome was there if that would have been the pick. I didn't think about Rousseau because I didn't expect him to be there as a realistic pick. I expected the edge guys to get overdrafted a bit. It's a fine pick for #30.

[Protocal69]

6 minutes ago, Haze_21 said:

Those pro day numbers are awful like the only comparable players who worked with similarly bad measurables are jpp or tamba hali. His highlights show he has a nose for making plays in the pocket which is encouraging so I guess we are hoping for a jpp type dude making inside plays. Dont love the pick. Thought oweh made a lot of sense with our d lacking elite speed guys.

His measureables, Pro Day Numbers and where he was drafted are very similar to Calais Campbell coming out of the same school ( Miami) BTW Calais Campbell is his mentor.

[Mat68]

I think he becomes Cilas Cambell and creates that kind of disruption.  Looks pretty distributed 266.  He looked thicker at his proday than in 2019.  Imo thats simply a 19 year old kid growing into his frame.  As a 6-3 240 de his agility would be a concern at 6-7 270 I dont see an issue.  Production is production.  I think Covid allowed him to be there at 30.  He plays in 2020 he goes top 15.

Edited April 30, 2021 by Mat68

[Reed83HOF]

47 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Bado -

 

This is a really good description of what I see on the highlights of his play.   I just commented on his hands, but you captured it better.  His athleticism helps him find his way to the quarterback, somehow.   Half the time he looks like he's completely out of control when he gets there, but then his hands find the ball, or find an ankle, or find a handful of jersey.   He does look like the opposite of Shaq.   Shaq is solid, but not a closer.  This guy looks like a closer - when he gets there, he's going to make a play. 

 

I know he's put on weight since 2019, and it's clear from the video that he could carry more weight.   It's also clear from the video that he has very little technique.  He played offense in high school, I guess until his senior year, and it's easy to imagine that they just put him on the field as a defender and said "go get the ball carrier."   He didn't need technique to beat high schoolers, and he didn't have time to learn any.   Then he missed most of his true freshman season.  I think his 2019 film shows a guy who is far from reaching his potential.  

This is a real nice summary.

[Codycolo12]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It's fair that you think this, but can you explain why?

 

Jayson Oweh may be the classic "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" guy.  There are numbers that get your attention, and Zero is one of them.

Zero sacks.  Doesn't that concern you, even a bit?

 

The Ravens seem to be DL university, in the same way the Steelers were once "LB U" noted for developing LB, so maybe he will be the "Steal of the draft" as some are saying.  Or maybe not.

 

Azeez Ojulari was flagged as having a "degenerative lower leg condition"

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2021/04/28/2021-nfl-draft-could-azeez-ojulari-fall-kc-chiefs/

He's also smaller, and profiled as a better fit at OLB.

 

So you may rather have them, but at best, you need to 'splain why

I haven’t heard one expert say this is a good pick. Those sacks were from the qb holding the ball to long or no one blocked the dude. Just because he has 15 sacks doesn’t mean anything. Listen to Chris Simms, Connor Rodgers, Chris Trapasso, Bruce Nolan. It sounds like he is getting red shirted. He might be good in two years, but who gets a guy in the first round that cannot help the defense till 2022-2023. Sounds like another Epenesa. He should have been a 2023 first round pick if he reaches that Ceiling. Hearing that sounds like he’s on a 2-3 year contract but we have him for 4-5. 

 

    defensive Ends or linemen in general their Measurements are very important. 3 cone drill was terrible. His vert was 30 inches (in the red). He Is not very strong. The only elite trait he has is he’s tall. Sometimes stats don’t mean anything in college. 

   Add in the fact that this team has been trying to fix the d line for a few years and nothing has panned out. Mabe an  inkling that they don’t know how to draft or pick up a FA D linemen at all. Murphy, Star, Epenesa, Addison, Oliver, Vernon butler, Jefferson. The list goes on. most expensive D line in football and nothing to show for it. Can’t get a sack and can’t stop the run?
 

 

[Rocket94]

4 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

His measureables, Pro Day Numbers and where he was drafted are very similar to Calais Campbell coming out of the same school ( Miami) BTW Calais Campbell is his mentor.

Sometimes we all have bad days! 

[mannc]

52 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

 

I’m confused.  I thought Phillips was number 15 for the Canes...

[NoSaint]

18 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

A huge part of that is because he can actually see the ball.

Being able to play with your head up and maintain that peripheral vision in the midst of combat is a vastly underrated ability that doesn't come naturally to a lot of guys and isn't particularly coachable. That combination of vision and length should enable this guy to close fast on the ball and finish a lot of plays that other guys wouldn't.

Excellent decision from the Bills braintrust to use the #30 on this kid.

also should effect passing lanes 

 

With his head up and long reach - he can impact quick releases 

 

we need a turnover creator and between pressure for sacks, reach for qb strips  and tips he has a few things going for him there 

Edited April 30, 2021 by NoSaint

[Solomon Grundy]

Another story to watch. Which Miami DE will be the better pro?

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ravens fans seem to be angry, they wanted Rousseau over oweh 

 

I can totally see that Rousseau is a Campbell match - a great fit for them to learn and has a bunch of flexibility.

 

Oweh - he has elite straight line speed, but that lead to almost no actual production in sacks and really is not a great scheme fit for either team. 
 

I love his speed, but running outside the tackle and allowing the QB to step up is going to be killer in that division.

[BillsSbSoon]

Would be interesting to know if they really had rousseau higher on their board than jaelin phillips. I know beane said we got our guy and ill take his word but hes said that before too. They both had issues but i dont wanna feel like we panicked and got miamis sloppy seconds either lol

Edited April 30, 2021 by BillsSbSoon

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Would be interesting to know if they really had rousseau higher on their board than jaelin phillips. I know beane said we got our guy and ill take his word but hes said that before too. They both had issues but i dont wanna feel like we panicked and got miamis sloppy seconds either lol

Wouldn't surprise me with the medical. Also Bills like those long rangy DE's. 

 

 

[OldTimer1960]

2 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

Beane has not earned my trust when it comes to the defense, so I’m skeptical of the pick, especially with who was still on the board...time will tell...

I’m sure that he will work on earning your trust.

[PrimeTime101]

7 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Both are still available in the 2nd

Both will likely go early.. Can you see us maybe doing a hero move to get one of them?

[JaCrispy]

4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I’m sure that he will work on earning your trust.

That would be good...it would mean he is starting to “hit” on his defensive picks more frequently...👍

Edited April 30, 2021 by JaCrispy