BillsMafi$ Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 https://twitter.com/qbdatamine/status/1359940049756946434?s=21 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Thankfully this information came out now. Hopefully we can move up in the 1st round and take one of the top QBs. Personally, I always knew Allen was a bust 6 26 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Someone show this to Beane before he makes a terrible mistake. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Mahomie appears to be right behind him with 19. 6 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: https://twitter.com/qbdatamine/status/1359940049756946434?s=21 Wow, 2 more than Mahomes! 1 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Sounds bad but not really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Addison had none. Maybe that can put things into perspective a little. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 And how many dropped/bogus penalty/ no call TD passes? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDude Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 And how many TD drops, called back, and receiver drops? And let's not forget the INT that wasn't an INT 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: https://twitter.com/qbdatamine/status/1359940049756946434?s=21 Weird. I usually call those "incompletions." 10 1 12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDude Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: And how many dropped/bogus penalty/ no call TD passes? Yes, exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Oh cool, Another useful “metric” to bicker about! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Wow! That's seems a bit much. Flip side he had some dropped TDs too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Some of those highlighted as "dropped interceptions" didn't hit any body parts! Another portion was the defender knocking down the ball. Hardly a "dropped interception". From the video, I'd say the true number would be around 8ish. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Don’t forget to subtract 1 interception for the one that really wasn’t an interception but what the hell we'll pretend it was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Wow! That's seems a bit much. Flip side he had some dropped TDs too Some of the dropped INTs from the video they posted really shouldn't be considered dropped INTs. Some of them were either contested plays or no chance of an INT. Not really sure what their criteria is. Some were right in the Dbs hands. Allen is going to have these plays because he believes in his arm too often. But I wouldn't have him change a thing. There's more good than bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Mahomes had 19 in 2020. What I noticed in watching both is that, though they counted Allen having two more, many of Allen's were nearly uncatchable or 50/50 balls or simply an amazing play by the defender (the Colts DB laying out). Almost all of Mahomes' drops were basically in the defender's breadbasket. I can't believe that many were dropped. Unsure if I'm being biased here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Some of the dropped INTs from the video they posted really shouldn't be considered dropped INTs. Some of them were either contested plays or no chance of an INT. Not really sure what their criteria is. Some were right in the Dbs hands. Allen is going to have these plays because he believes in his arm too often. But I wouldn't have him change a thing. There's more good than bad. Yeah Kinda figured that. I remember some actual real dropped INT's, but definitely wouldn't say as many as 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 This is a benefit of his arm strength. I believe this will be a thing for years to come. His own receivers have to learn how to catch JA balls. No way for defenders to practice for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: https://twitter.com/qbdatamine/status/1359940049756946434?s=21 If they were not caught they were not interceptions. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Gugny said: Weird. I usually call those "incompletions." I’ve always felt that interceptions are still technically completed passes, just to the other team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, benderbender said: I’ve always felt that interceptions are still technically completed passes, just to the other team. Then Jameis Winston is the most accurate passer in the league! 😀 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Boxcar said: What I noticed in watching both is that, though they counted Allen having two more, many of Allen's were nearly uncatchable or 50/50 balls or simply an amazing play by the defender (the Colts DB laying out). Almost all of Mahomes' drops were basically in the defender's breadbasket. I can't believe that many were dropped. Unsure if I'm being biased here. i fully agree with you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 And that’s why they play defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Brett Favre anyone? I'd like someone to go back and look at how many he had that were "dropped" by defenders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, Draconator said: Some of those highlighted as "dropped interceptions" didn't hit any body parts! Another portion was the defender knocking down the ball. Hardly a "dropped interception". From the video, I'd say the true number would be around 8ish. agree. This is such a misleading stat. Seems like maybe 3 or 4 were legit bad throws/bad drops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Coulda, shoulda, woulda... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 This thread needs a title change in my opinion. Silly metric to begin with as it’s clearly highly subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Damn it! Should of just rode it out with the PETERMAN! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 If DBs could catch the ball, they wouldn’t be DBs, they’d be wide receivers. I watched all of those videos and their definition of dropped interception is very generous to the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 How many dropped INTs does every QB have every year? 14 minutes ago, H2o said: Brett Favre anyone? I'd like someone to go back and look at how many he had that were "dropped" by defenders. He threw 337 INTs I think. With as much as a gun slinger as he was he probably had 200 more that easily could have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Actually those would be defensed passes, it’s only an interception when it’s not dropped..., Oh, did PFF ding both Mahomes and Allen’s QB ratings for interceptions that didn’t happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wow, 2 more than Mahomes! My main takeaway is less to do with Allen or these other QBs and more to do with how bad NFL DBs are at catching the football. Wild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) A handful of those drops woulda been spectacular catches from wr’s, let alone a DB. So I mean..... whatever. how about they do a “dropped td” category. I can remember 3 blatant drops just off the top of my head from Davis in the first pats game and then Jones and Knox in the 2nd pats game on the same drive that ended in a moss rush td..... and then there was the dime to Kroft in the jets game that he actually caught but decided he wasn’t a pro athlete and let the turf monster tackle him.... Josh easily shoulda had 40+ td passes Edited April 17, 2021 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBorn1960 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Well... he throws harder than Mahomes...sooo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 These guys are 16 days late with this BS. Most of those "dropped interceptions" would have been circus catches, if made. They weren't, and that's all that counts. NFL QB's must make throws into tight windows (I'm looking at you, Tuhrod Taylor). JA makes those throws, and sometimes, a defensive player makes a play to bat the ball away. Good for them. It doesn't indicate any flaw in Josh's game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Red herring.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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