Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: To sign with the Ravens and take 6M for 1 year means his market was pure trash, as it should be. I said this earlier, but a pretty huge fall from grace. This contract value basically means that the chiefs would rather have anyone else as their WR3 than Watkins. It’s not even the money. He eats up a roster space and often an active game day spot, as when he does play, he is often hobbled/less than 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Sammy "Glass" Watkins Over/Under 10 games. .. I'll take the Under. Heard his foot still hurts from his Buffalo days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Seems sensible for both. The Ravens needed something at WR and Sammy didn’t have many options. I suspect the Ravens still go WR with one their first two picks but this helps them get some help outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) Ravens got their decoy Edited March 27, 2021 by stevewin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I thought at the time KC signed him, it was overpay.....and in retrospect it was a major overpay....oddly, the offense metrics were better with him on the field than not...but I think KC could have found a no.2 WR for 1/3 the cost and been fine. .....a wierd but true stat. KC, with Sammy made 3 consecutive AFCCG appearances, winning 2 of those and 2 super bowls, winning 1 of the 2. Maybe he's a good luck charm or something. Not that it matters here....alot of fans in KC upset we haven't signed a "no.2" WR this offseason so far. I'm kind of glad they haven't.....I tink you can put a bargain FA on the roster and Mahomes will help the stats...but there is only so many targets....Hill, and Kelce take up alot...and KC spreads it out quite abit beyond that....no reason to expend substantial resources on a guy that would be the 4th option most weeks. He'll do well in B'more. .....thing about that team...it's offense sputtered not because of lack of WR...it needs 2 high end TE's to run well....they should have gotten one of Junnu Smith or Hunter that NE got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) Only 27 and 4th team already. With only a one year contract, it wouldn't be a surprise that he will become a free agent again at the end of the season and sign with team number 5 for the 2022 season. Edited March 27, 2021 by Curt Mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 50 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: I thought at the time KC signed him, it was overpay.....and in retrospect it was a major overpay....oddly, the offense metrics were better with him on the field than not...but I think KC could have found a no.2 WR for 1/3 the cost and been fine. .....a wierd but true stat. KC, with Sammy made 3 consecutive AFCCG appearances, winning 2 of those and 2 super bowls, winning 1 of the 2. Maybe he's a good luck charm or something. Not that it matters here....alot of fans in KC upset we haven't signed a "no.2" WR this offseason so far. I'm kind of glad they haven't.....I tink you can put a bargain FA on the roster and Mahomes will help the stats...but there is only so many targets....Hill, and Kelce take up alot...and KC spreads it out quite abit beyond that....no reason to expend substantial resources on a guy that would be the 4th option most weeks. He'll do well in B'more. .....thing about that team...it's offense sputtered not because of lack of WR...it needs 2 high end TE's to run well....they should have gotten one of Junnu Smith or Hunter that NE got. one thing KC and Buffalo fans can mostly agree on is what a waste of Watkins was. That the chiefs didn’t even seem to offer him the same pretty measly deal that Baltimore gave him shows Me too it wasn’t really about money. To your point, a rookie or bargain vet at the WR 2 spot is perfect. You already have Kelce and Hill as basically your 1/2, Hardiman for a few other targets, and can you use your backs well in the passing game. Doesn’t make a lot of sense to invest more money in your O skill players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 6 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: 😆 How do you fully guarantee 80% of a contracts worth for a guy with his injury history? Kudos on his agent's part in the deal. Because it's a 1 year contract and it's guaranteed if he gets anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Well, he has a job so good for him. I’m a little surprised on the financials, but I guess Harbaugh is having a hard time luring WR’s there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 8 hours ago, Process said: Probably the last place sammy wanted to sign given he's already had to suffer through Tyrod. But decent signing for the ravens. Didn't Sammy have his best years under Tyrod? 6 hours ago, TBBills said: Whaley just had to have his WR... Draft a QB in the worst year to draft one, trade up to draft a WR in a great WR draft year. The fact that they could've had Mack is what really angers me. That's who I wanted the whole time and I'm just a fan. That pick would've made a lot more sense. It was like fate.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Read the fine print of the contract to see why it's so generous. Sammy cannot talk about reptilian aliens or a flat Earth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Unfortunately Sammy gripped the pen a little to hard when signing the contract 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 As brutal s as some of these comments are, they’re justified 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Looked up his career earnings last night, divided by his career catches. Watkins has made 196,000 a catch in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 The guy has no speed. I wish him luck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Didn't Sammy have his best years under Tyrod? The fact that they could've had Mack is what really angers me. That's who I wanted the whole time and I'm just a fan. That pick would've made a lot more sense. It was like fate.. Yes because he was their #1 WR. I think in this offense everything goes through the TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes because he was their #1 WR. I think in this offense everything goes through the TE. Exactly, Mark Andrews is their #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Meanwhile I keep working at my small job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Fixed Another weapon for MVP Lamar Jackson to ignore on the outside 4 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Didn't Sammy have his best years under Tyrod? That kind of stuff should be kept in the locker room 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 12 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: 😆 How do you fully guarantee 80% of a contracts worth for a guy with his injury history? Kudos on his agent's part in the deal. Thats why he was still available March 26th I wish him well but between always being hurt and Lamar throwing minimally outside he won't be doing much but running and blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Remember when beane traded him and we were all up in arms about it? Now he's playing for as many teams as Fitzpatrick and can't even get through a full season. And to think we gave up 2 1st round draft picks on him 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Bet he doesn't get 50 catches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Steptide said: Remember when beane traded him and we were all up in arms about it? Now he's playing for as many teams as Fitzpatrick and can't even get through a full season. And to think we gave up 2 1st round draft picks on him 🙄 I was soooo distraught when that trade went down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Steptide said: And to think we gave up 2 1st round draft picks on him 🙄 Gave up one, swapped one. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: Bet he doesn't get 50 catches He’s had over 50 catches 3 times in 7 years with quarterbacks who weren’t Lamar Jackson. Nobody is taking your bet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I think the real question here is, what’s the over/under on games played before he is out injured... with Sammy it could happen in the preseason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Well, drat. The dream of ever seeing Sammy Watkins play football in a Bills uniform is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Watkins on to his 4th team already 🤮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 7:06 PM, YoloinOhio said: Probably the best fit on both sides but hope he’s a long way from the days of demanding 10 targets a game Sammy’s job is getting littler every year, it seems. One day he may be one of us! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Going to the Ravens as a WR is committing career suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 7:18 PM, H2o said: I think Sammy could fit, but it's still up to Roman to scheme guys open and Lamar to hit them with the ball. We'll see how it pans out. Um, Sammy produced pretty darn well in a Roman offense with Tyrod throwing the ball - in 13 games in 2015, he had 1047 yards, 17.9 ypc, and 9 tds. 18 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: He’s had over 50 catches 3 times in 7 years with quarterbacks who weren’t Lamar Jackson. Nobody is taking your bet. His one elite season was under greg roman with tyrod throwing the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Um, Sammy produced pretty darn well in a Roman offense with Tyrod throwing the ball - in 13 games in 2015, he had 1047 yards, 17.9 ypc, and 9 tds. His one elite season was under greg roman with tyrod throwing the ball. I'd hardly call Sammy's season elite. That would be like calling Peerless Price's 2002 season elite. It was solid. But outside of those Chiefs and Dolphins games, nothing spectacular. Those two games accounted for 1/3 of his yards and TD's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Might as well fill the whirlpool with Epsom salts right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 58 minutes ago, H2o said: I'd hardly call Sammy's season elite. That would be like calling Peerless Price's 2002 season elite. It was solid. But outside of those Chiefs and Dolphins games, nothing spectacular. Those two games accounted for 1/3 of his yards and TD's. It's "Buffalo Elite". It includes any WR who cracks 1000 for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Going to the Ravens as a WR is committing career suicide. Worked to help John Brown get a decent contract with the Bills, which helped him get a decent contract with the Raiders so ?? 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Um, Sammy produced pretty darn well in a Roman offense with Tyrod throwing the ball - in 13 games in 2015, he had 1047 yards, 17.9 ypc, and 9 tds. His one elite season was under greg roman with tyrod throwing the ball. It's true. So maybe it's a Career Revival Move for him to return to the OC where he had his best season. OTOH I tend to think that season was BF (before foot) and that Sammy's career can be divided into BF and AF (before foot and after foot) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan5121 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Worked to help John Brown get a decent contract with the Bills, which helped him get a decent contract with the Raiders so ?? Yeah, but all of his Baltimore production was with Flacco. So I get what he’s saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I took a look back to the time when Sammy was traded from the Bills, some good stuff there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Um, Sammy produced pretty darn well in a Roman offense with Tyrod throwing the ball - in 13 games in 2015, he had 1047 yards, 17.9 ypc, and 9 tds. His one elite season was under greg roman with tyrod throwing the ball. LOL. You just proved my point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 7:06 PM, BillsFanForever19 said: Between Lamar's ability as a passer and Sammy's injury proneness - this has got 500 yards tops written all over it. Exactly....I’ll never understand the love Bills fans have for Sammy. He half-asses his way through his disappointing tenure in Buffalo and hasn’t lived up to his hype after. He’s an ok WR to have on your team if you have two or three other options available on offense. I don’t think he’ll make much of a difference for their offense. Ravens fans are acting like they signed a WR1. They’ll soon find out the type of player he is 6 hours ago, billsfan5121 said: Yeah, but all of his Baltimore production was with Flacco. So I get what he’s saying. The reason he left Baltimore is because he became invisible once Lamar took over On 3/27/2021 at 8:30 AM, Steptide said: Remember when beane traded him and we were all up in arms about it? Now he's playing for as many teams as Fitzpatrick and can't even get through a full season. And to think we gave up 2 1st round draft picks on him 🙄 That’s because he was a “generational talent.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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