BillsFan130 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Love this signing. They needed an RB with some speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) I’m thinking Cb at 30? Will there be some good talent available? I don’t think Levi is really viewed as our number 2. Or is Jackson ready to step into that role.. Edited March 25, 2021 by loveorhatembillsfan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I’m thinking Cb at 30? Will there be some good talent available? I don’t think Levi is really viewed as our number 2. Or is Jackson ready to step into that role.. Yes there is expected to be decent value at CB available at 30. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 51 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t think many people will agree but he’s Yeldons replacement imo. Still gonna be Moss, Singletary and Taiwan active on gamedays. He will need an injury to get a chance, and he’ll have to do well to stay in the rotation after. It’s a great signing though I suspect he will be in the running for RB2 behind Moss. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I’m thinking Cb at 30? Will there be some good talent available? I don’t think Levi is really viewed as our number 2. Or is Jackson ready to step into that role.. I think Beane is going to go best player available. I am hoping that “best player” is at corner or a DE though 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I’m thinking Cb at 30? Will there be some good talent available? I don’t think Levi is really viewed as our number 2. Or is Jackson ready to step into that role.. Really the only position (besides RB, but I hate drafting RB that early), where the player will come in and start right away. The draft has some really good CBs and we have a hole there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Hope this means that god-awful Chiefs game was the last I have to see singletary on this team. If the knock on Brenda is he couldn’t crack the Dolphins lineup (some say because of injuries); the knock on Singletary is he was completely ineffective all season and topped it off with an all-time pathetic performance. And I actually liked him after his rookie season. I think the fumbling got into his head and he stopped breaking ankles altogether. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, whatdrought said: I suspect he will be in the running for RB2 behind Moss. 100% he’ll have a shot. It’ll be a tough job to win over the coaches though. I think it’ll take an injury to get him active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Hate to be the Negative Nancy, but...... STILL haven't solved the run blocking problem. STILL haven't solved the run defense problem. STILL haven't addressed the lack of a pass rush. I hope to hell this team drafts well, because so far we've upgraded our depth IMHO and not solved any of our Top Three issues which kept us out of the Super Bowl. 1 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, EasternOHBillsFan said: Hate to be the Negative Nancy, but...... STILL haven't solved the run blocking problem. STILL haven't solved the run defense problem. STILL haven't addressed the lack of a pass rush. I hope to hell this team drafts well, because so far we've upgraded our depth IMHO and not solved any of our Top Three issues which kept us out of the Super Bowl. Star aids significantly in the run defense area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Hate to be the Negative Nancy, but...... STILL haven't solved the run blocking problem. STILL haven't solved the run defense problem. STILL haven't addressed the lack of a pass rush. I hope to hell this team drafts well, because so far we've upgraded our depth IMHO and not solved any of our Top Three issues which kept us out of the Super Bowl. 1. I think there will be big changes in terms of the actual scheme of the run game and will do a lot more runs with Morse pulling. 2. I think they are banking on star coming back and making an impact, as well as Oliver making a huge leap in year 3. 3. definitely disappointed in them not really addressing the pass rush. They need to add an impact player here somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 51 minutes ago, Gugny said: As long as we have Tie One On Jones, we will be fine. No, hes a special teamer.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonboy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Looking at his career stats, he did do some kick returning his first year with SF....wonder if Bills may give him a look there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, DJB said: GOLD! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Know this is a popular move, but it doesn't move the needle much for me. Decent player who adds speed to the roster, but I also can see him as a guy who is deactivated on game days. Good level two free agent who could add to the team but its a crowded room especially with Jones on the roster for special teams. hey if devin or moss go down like they did last year he's a vet guy who can line up. depth is king. loving db or lb with the first pick in the draft even more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 also have to bring more players to camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I suspect he will be in the running for RB2 behind Moss. Maybe, I still wouldn't count the Williams kid out just yet either though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, bourbonboy said: Looking at his career stats, he did do some kick returning his first year with SF....wonder if Bills may give him a look there? Like McKenzie, he has returned some kicks in his career. The problem is that neither has shown to be good at it, at least in Breida's defense it was only a handful of tries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I think it's mostly wishful thinking from people that didn't want a RB in the draft in the first place (myself included). We're already likely looking at cutting/trading/deactivating one of our talented RBs as is. It's certainly possible that we draft one of the top RBs and then cut Breida and trade/cut Singletary but I'm really hoping that isn't the way we use our draft picks. Fair enough. I’m just all about bpa this year. It’s been so long since we can say it would be very hard for a draft pick to be a starter on this team. I trust our guys to make the right choices so if they feel that high on a guy I’m all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 36 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Seem like Beanes favorite way to hit the draft is with some kind of solution for each hole so they have the flexibility to really get a BPA. It doesn't just seem that way. That is exactly what Beane says he does. Fill holes in free agency, take BPA in the draft. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: 1. I think there will be big changes in terms of the actual scheme of the run game and will do a lot more runs with Morse pulling. 2. I think they are banking on star coming back and making an impact, as well as Oliver making a huge leap in year 3. 3. definitely disappointed in them not really addressing the pass rush. They need to add an impact player here somehow. A healthy Ford adds power in the run game. But I also think he weakens pass protection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 At this point, the Bills are already signing camp bodies to compete for the final roster spots. I wouldn't be certain that Jacob Hollister, Efe Obada or Matt Breida actually make the team after final cuts. I'll be honest. It's been a pretty uneventful and somewhat disappointing free agency. Yeah, I was thrilled we re-signed almost all of the guys I wanted to bring back. But I was really hoping we could get a veteran corner to upgrade on Levi Wallace, another good edge rusher to add into the rotation, and a real threat at tight end. Maybe we are waiting for the post-draft bargain bin, but right now it really appears that Beane is done (with anything other than back-end depth). Hopefully the draft goes well, because it just doesn't appear to be a deep class at our need-positions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, without a drought said: Like McKenzie, he has returned some kicks in his career. The problem is that neither has shown to be good at it, at least in Breida's defense it was only a handful of tries. Yeah I think it's possible that the loss of Roberts will be a bigger difference than some think. Depending on what else happens in offseason. Won't have the good field position like he gave them many times I suspect. They may even take the 25 yd line majority of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said: Hopefully this absolutely kills any notion of a RB in rounds one or two. This TBH. A 1 year rental with more upside than Yeldon. If he can stay healthy and contribute he can stick around longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: I don’t get how people thinks this means we won’t draft a running back. It’s a one year deal, and as people have pointed out there are injury concerns. I like that we got him, but I think we’re set up perfectly for bpa in mostly all positions. If there’s a guy that the Bills really like at 30 I don’t think the Bills pass because of Brieda. BPA is a term rendered bogus by those that have turned it around selectively to make an excuse for the extremely dubious act of drafting RB's early. BPA should entail the value of the position, the difficulty to fill that position and the expected longevity. There is not an imaginary line after "all regular offensive and defensive players" at which point special teams players aren't factored in. There is a scale that starts at QB and gradually decreases in value down to a very low number at RB.....which is the last stop before you get to the kicker, punter and long snapper. The game just doesn't lend itself to putting a lot of value in the RB position..........and as such the quality of athletes and longevity at the position has also declined relative to other positions. It's outright foolish to draft a RB in round 1. Edited March 25, 2021 by BADOLBILZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I love this. I hope Breida isn't relegated to a Yeldon level of snaps. I'd make him and Moss the primary RB tandem. Beane is crushing this offseason, holy crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I’m thinking Cb at 30? Will there be some good talent available? I don’t think Levi is really viewed as our number 2. Or is Jackson ready to step into that role.. that is the one position where I think there is Value at 30. There isn’t many of those positions in this draft. 2 minutes ago, Boxcar said: I love this. I hope Breida isn't relegated to a Yeldon level of snaps. I'd make him and Moss the primary RB tandem. Beane is crushing this offseason, holy crap. Breida of SF yes. Breida of MIA doesn’t make the roster. Either way Both Breidas come with major injury issues to really count on as lead back. Edited March 25, 2021 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, mjt328 said: At this point, the Bills are already signing camp bodies to compete for the final roster spots. I wouldn't be certain that Jacob Hollister, Efe Obada or Matt Breida actually make the team after final cuts. I agree with this statement as it pertains to Breida (assuming his contract price is low). I think he will be in a battle with Williams, Wade, and possibly a draft pick for that 3rd string RB role, and wouldn’t be surprised if he gets cut. But more competition is better. the thing that is painful for me was re-signing Taiwan Jones. I was hoping we would get a RB who would fill both the speed/depth RB role and the ST gunner. Taiwan gives you nothing on offense on game day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, MAJBobby said: that is the one position where I think there is Value at 30. There isn’t many of those positions in this draft. Agree, and they have shown they have a pretty good track record at drafting CB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: WR? They have G.Davis and I.Hodgins from last year plus Kumerow & the Wyoming kid. ...maybe spend a 6th or a 7th but not 1-3 Oh yeah....Hodgins and Kumerow.....I forgot. Two burners.......not. We need speed at wr. We should be drafting a WR in the first 4 rds in almost every draft. Beasley will be 32 in a month. Sanders is on a one year deal. Hodgins is a slot guy. Kumerow is a ST guy. None are deep threats. look at the draft board. There are several very good WRs that could be BPA in rd 2 and 3. If a wr is BPA when we pick in rd 2 or 3, they should be the pick. Period. you disagree? Cool. I stick to my guns. We need more playmakers whether or not you feel that way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Idk why not somebody who can catch though ? I really hope they get someone like that in the draft. A Woodhead/Sproles type. Breida has caught 76% of targets for 9 ypc average. He has averaged 90% catch rate last 3 years. Not sure how he holds up in pass pro at 190 lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: BPA is a term rendered bogus by those that have turned it around selectively to make an excuse for the extremely dubious act of drafting RB's early. BPA should entail the value of the position, the difficulty to fill that position and the expected longevity. There is not an imaginary line after "all regular offensive and defensive players" at which point special teams players aren't factored in. There is a scale that starts at QB and gradually decreases in value down to a very low number at RB.....which is the last stop before you get to the kicker, punter and long snapper. The game just doesn't lend itself to putting a lot of value in the RB position..........and as such the quality of athletes and longevity at the position has also declined relative to other positions. It's outright foolish to draft a RB in round 1. Seems more like you think they shouldn't take a RB in the first not sure how Breida effects it. But there is a ton of things that go into it not just BPA but who offers the most upgrade over who we already have at positions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: that is the one position where I think there is Value at 30. There isn’t many of those positions in this draft. Breida of SF yes. Breida of MIA doesn’t make the roster. Either way Both Breidas come with major injury issues to really count on as lead back. Even Miami Breida was a much better receiver than Singletary, and they averaged about the same YPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: BPA is a term rendered bogus by those that have turned it around selectively to make an excuse for the extremely dubious act of drafting RB's early. BPA should entail the value of the position, the difficulty to fill that position and the expected longevity. There is not an imaginary line after "all regular offensive and defensive players" at which point special teams players aren't factored in. There is a scale that starts at QB and gradually decreases in value down to a very low number at RB.....which is the last stop before you get to the kicker, punter and long snapper. The game just doesn't lend itself to putting a lot of value in the RB position..........and as such the quality of athletes and longevity at the position has also declined relative to other positions. It's outright foolish to draft a RB in round 1. It’s good to see you don’t get too firmly entrenched into your own opinions and don’t mind seeing things from other people’s perspectives. Oh wait... Edited March 25, 2021 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Nice Yeldon replacement, good to have a "young vet" to push Moss and Singletary. The attention to detail on this roster is really strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Seems more like you think they shouldn't take a RB in the first not sure how Breida effects it. But there is a ton of things that go into it not just BPA but who offers the most upgrade over who we already have at positions. Yup, it all depends on how things play out. So many try to predict what will happen and who gets picked where in the draft. Never can tell how it will go, especially at pick # 30. A whole lot can happen by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I like it. I wanted us to have a dabble at him last year. I think he is a fit. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 47 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Speed back. Good out of backfield. Don’t have his skill set on our RB roster Gets hurt a lot. Havent seen the money yet. but which one do we get the Good Breida from San Fran or the Crap one from MIA? A voice of reason ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Any word on the money involved yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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