ColoradoBills Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Curious what TBD thinks Beane is up to. I still hope that as money dries up he can still sign someone who can make an impact. Although I'm starting to feel that other than some guys to compete for depth that Brandon might be done. I can also talk myself into a scenario that since everyone is pretty quite in the whole league the last few days that another wave of FA signings could start and Beane will be part of it. He can tweek a few contracts and get some cap money but he may be true to his word and not want to do too much with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I don’t expect much more at all. Maybe a vet minimum deal for a year that’s about it. On to the draft. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) He will value shop and create cap if he needs it if we connect with a more expensive player that make sense for us. Edit: Actually @Reed83HOF mentioned that Tre & Dawkins had restructure option clauses in their contracts but they had a window of a few days. That window has passed so I’d wager that they were executed and that we have more cap space than what OTC and Spotrac can verify. They wouldn’t want to broadcast the fact that they have the extra cap space for negotiation purposes so it’ll only come out if and when they need it. Edit 2: Spotrac has us with negative cap space and does not yet have Feliciano’s contract accounted for. They Bills have certainly executed those clauses and/or made room elsewhere. Edited March 21, 2021 by BarleyNY 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 😳 You Want US to tell you what’s happening behind the scenes at OBD? I think yer gonna be very disappointed. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I was really hoping to add a difference maker on defense like a pass rusher. Upgrading CB2 would've been nice as well. But it seems most of the focus in FA was to retain our own guys which I don't have a problem with since they're the group that got us to the AFCCG. Cap space is really hurting us, especially with Josh and Tremaine coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) This is why Beane hasn't "done anything". He sold and packed it up. Edited March 21, 2021 by DJB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 If he can snag a top guy at a lower price, he may do that. Otherwise, possibly a tier 2 guy on the cheap or most likely a few tier 3 guys to help fill out the roster prior to the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 We have no cap space so I don't foresee any other big moves. Beane isn't like most GMs, he doesn't restructure contracts to kick the can down the road. The only other big move this offseason is going to be Allen's extension. He needs to conserve cap space for next year to make sure that is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: 😳 You Want US to tell you what’s happening behind the scenes at OBD? I think yer gonna be very disappointed. Desperate times call for desperate measures? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I expect a few more one year deals after current FA’s finish testing the market or Post Draft/June 1st cuts. At this point, I expect it to be a DB or Pass Rusher. The draft will be all BPA. My guess is DB in the 1st 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: I was really hoping to add a difference maker on defense like a pass rusher. Upgrading CB2 would've been nice as well. But it seems most of the focus in FA was to retain our own guys which I don't have a problem with since they're the group that got us to the AFCCG. Cap space is really hurting us, especially with Josh and Tremaine coming up. you have the draft coming up and see what they draft in the first few rounds who can step in snd play. Then you have the June cap cuts i know it’s rare, but post draft could you sera player for player trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Virgil said: I expect a few more one year deals after current FA’s finish testing the market or Post Draft/June 1st cuts. At this point, I expect it to be a DB or Pass Rusher. The draft will be all BPA. My guess is DB in the 1st I agree. There will be a few more deals. There always are with Beane. He will add some veterans, some of whom will make the team, some of whom will get cut. And he will surprise us with the positions. Just like the Trubisky surprise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: I expect a few more one year deals after current FA’s finish testing the market or Post Draft/June 1st cuts. At this point, I expect it to be a DB or Pass Rusher. The draft will be all BPA. My guess is DB in the 1st unless a top 15 falls I expect buffalo to possibly trade down to a top half 2nd and a late 3rd/early 4th 1 minute ago, Shaw66 said: I agree. There will be a few more deals. There always are with Beane. He will add some veterans, some of whom will make the team, some of whom will get cut. And he will surprise us with the positions. Just like the Trubisky surprise. I wasn’t all that surprised in Trube signing . Thry needed a better back up and he needed to take a step back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rk_Bills86 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 If we're looking at anything i'd assume: CB, O-Line, Gadget Play/Returner Specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: He will value shop and create cap if he needs it if we connect with a more expensive player that make sense for us. Edit: Actually @Reed83HOF mentioned that Tre & Dawkins had restructure option clauses in their contracts but they had a window of a few days. That window has passed so I’d wager that they were executed and that we have more cap space than what OTC and Spotrac can verify. They wouldn’t want to broadcast the fact that they have the extra cap space for negotiation purposes so it’ll only come out if and when they need it. Edit 2: Spotrac has us with negative cap space and does not yet have Feliciano’s contract accounted for. They Bills have certainly executed those clauses and/or made room elsewhere. Tre and Dawkins both still have some slack in their contracts to play with if necessary. But those option bonuses won't have any effect at all. They're already accounted for in Spotrac and OTC's figures. (If you want to check that, look at the Spotrac tables for Dawkins and Tre and check for a column called "Option Bonuses." They're already accounted for across the life of the contracts.) I could see him re-structuring one more guy if/when they need space. I doubt we'll see much more than that, myself. As for the original question, he'll still be looking, but they'll be smaller moves, I think. He'll want to do as he usually does and try to fill every outright hole (McKenzie or a replacement, for instance) with someone so he's not forced to pick by position to fill a void. Edited March 21, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Curious what TBD thinks Beane is up to. I still hope that as money dries up he can still sign someone who can make an impact. Although I'm starting to feel that other than some guys to compete for depth that Brandon might be done. I can also talk myself into a scenario that since everyone is pretty quite in the whole league the last few days that another wave of FA signings could start and Beane will be part of it. He can tweek a few contracts and get some cap money but he may be true to his word and not want to do too much with that. You hacking TBD accounts there Roseman? 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said: I think he's still looking in FA. Tre and Dawkins both still have some slack in their contracts to play with if necessary. But those option bonuses won't have any effect at all. They're already accounted for in Spotrac and OTC's figures. The restructure option clauses I’m talking about just convert some of this season’s salary to a signing bonus, which would be paid upon execution. Looking closer I see that for Tre it’s $7.5M and the window closes today. That will clear $6M this season and move it out. Link Dawkins also has $7.5M that can be converted by today. It will clear $5.6M. It’s less because it will be spread over 4 years instead of 5 like Tre’s. Link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 He will add depth, looking for a kick returner ,cb, speed wr ,edge rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I would like Kerrigan.. at the right price .. and i think Beane isnt done.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 There are going to be some really quality players left in free agency after the draft. Teams have limited space, they’re hoping to get their guys in the draft. Going to be tough for some guys to get jobs this year. Once the draft hits you’ll see some movement with some of these vets taking cheaper deals in fear of missing the season. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 They’ll add a veteran DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 The Bills weren't good enough last year to beat the Kansas City Chiefs. It was painfully clear in both matchups. If we are going to have a prayer at winning the Super Bowl in 2021, they are clearly the next hurdle. Thus far, the Bills have made zero upgrades to the starting roster. Nothing to improve the pass rush. Nothing to improve the run defense. Nothing to improve our coverage on the back end. If the season started today, we might as well concede the AFC to Kansas City. Sorry for the brutal honestly. But we aren't good enough to beat them. Smart teams build through the draft. But it would be foolish to expect a massive impact from the incoming class. Look at what we got from A.J. Epenesa last year. Or Ed Oliver as a rookie. It takes years for these guys to be come good NFL players. As I said in another thread, I applaud Brandon Beane for being patient and not splurging on the first wave of free agency. But if he's just going to throw up the white flag and say "sorry, no cap space"... then he is basically content with another season as the runner-up in the AFC and punting the 2021 season away. I'm not in favor of "kicking the can down the road" - so I would be against moves like restructuring Jerry Hughes. But others have pointed out that by simply restructuring Stephon Diggs (who will inevitably get a new contract anyway), we can easily clear $8-10 million in space. This is a player we should plan on keeping for many more years, so it's not mortgaging the future. 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I don't think they're done. Post draft I think they add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I don’t expect much more at all. Maybe a vet minimum deal for a year that’s about it. On to the draft. This^^^ Keep in mind that resigning your own is a philosophy the Bills follow. Given the limited cap space the Bills had this year they have done a very good job. They have also leaked that they will be working on signing JA to a lock up contract following the draft. To the OP what else where you expecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) I am expecting a rare player for player trade, something that lowers the cap yet brings buffalo a younger player. . Edited March 21, 2021 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Virgil said: I expect a few more one year deals after current FA’s finish testing the market or Post Draft/June 1st cuts. At this point, I expect it to be a DB or Pass Rusher. The draft will be all BPA. My guess is DB in the 1st This is where I am...at least I hope it's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Id expect one more cheap deal... but i think we managed to improve our team despite lack of cap and draft will be huge this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 veteran pass rusher to rotate in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I could see us getting Dunlap if he’s cheap enough. Maybe a CB on that level as well. Couple guys to add depth and rotate with our other vets. Hughes, Addison, Epenesa, Dunlap, Johnson at edge could be a good underrated group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: We have no cap space so I don't foresee any other big moves. Beane isn't like most GMs, he doesn't restructure contracts to kick the can down the road. The only other big move this offseason is going to be Allen's extension. He needs to conserve cap space for next year to make sure that is possible. This is so true. Other than 1-2 small signings, FA is over for Buffalo. Now we need a killer draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 hours ago, BarleyNY said: He will value shop and create cap if he needs it if we connect with a more expensive player that make sense for us. Edit: Actually @Reed83HOF mentioned that Tre & Dawkins had restructure option clauses in their contracts but they had a window of a few days. That window has passed so I’d wager that they were executed and that we have more cap space than what OTC and Spotrac can verify. They wouldn’t want to broadcast the fact that they have the extra cap space for negotiation purposes so it’ll only come out if and when they need it. Edit 2: Spotrac has us with negative cap space and does not yet have Feliciano’s contract accounted for. They Bills have certainly executed those clauses and/or made room elsewhere. Don't assume that restructure info has to "be kept secret" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: I am expecting a rare player for player trade, something that lowers the cap yet brings buffalo a younger player. Before or after the draft? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I don’t think Beane is done. Just think he’s still waiting for prices to come down on the veteran ring chasers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Beane is never done... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, Georgie said: Don't assume that restructure info has to "be kept secret" It always seems to get out sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Well seeing Beane has never once shown to be done with FA I say no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 yes he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 44 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Beane is never done... He may not want to be but the cap money says he’s pretty much done. The dream restructures people are hoping for probably won’t happen. Beane said he doesn’t really want to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 hours ago, dwight in philly said: I would like Kerrigan.. at the right price .. and i think Beane isnt done.. I like Kerrigan...he would be a good addition short term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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