Bills re-sign Levi Wallace

[Clyde Smith]

3 minutes ago, Mango said:

I haven’t played much the last 2 years. But I think they worked that one out. Finding good return on trades was way harder in the last one. I’ve been tempted recently to start playing again. 

I just bought Madden 21 after playing 18 for ten years it seemed. I've noticed FA trade is still flawed. I can take a player most notably Leveon Bell in FA. Trade him for a player or pick, then check Free agency next week or two. Leveon is back in FA. Keep repeating the process and build your team lol.

[Mango]

Has $$$ been reported yet?

[Reed83HOF]

2 minutes ago, Mango said:

Has $$$ been reported yet?

little less than the tender I saw

edit:
 

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Reed83HOF

[Logic]

I love that Levi Wallace told his agent not to even entertain any other offers, because he wants to be a Bill, because “we are going to win a Super Bowl”.

 

How can you not love that?!

 

As others have said, Levi is a GREAT “worse case scenario” to have as CB2, but I bet they draft one high and give Dane Jackson a long look, too.

Edited March 18, 2021 by Logic

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, Logic said:

I love that Levi Wallace told his agent not to even entertain any other offers, because he wants to be a Bill, because “we are going to win a Super Bowl”.

 

How can you not love that?!

 

As others have said, Levi is a GREAT “worse case scenario” to have as CB2, but I bet they draft one high and give Dane Jackson a long look, too.

 

I could see a scenario where Levi would rather be on the Bills for 1 more year and see what happens and the sign a 3 year contract

with either the Bills or another team.  I think it's smart of him.

[Virgil]

One positive, we won’t be worse than last year on pass defense, which was pretty good.  
 

I love that we can go BPA in the draft 

[richardb1952]

If Wallace was not re-signed, I would guess the # 30 pick to be a CB.  Now I'm not so sure.  The DE, DT, TE class does not seem to be that strong at pick 30 so I will not be surprised if the pick is one of top 3 RBs.  CB is still a good value at #30 though.  TE/ CB at 2nd round.  3rd; TE/CB.  

[Shaw66]

1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Wow. I didn't see any possible way we'd be able to retain an, at least, adequate young CB for under 2.13 million. Beane never ceases to surprise me.

I think all the teams are strapped for cash, so the big paydays that players ordinarily look for aren't there this year.   The result is that the differential between what others are offering and what the Bills offer isn't so large, so there's no reason for a guy to leave a team where he's had success to go to a new team and an uncertain future. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Wallace gets unfairly maligned. Being the number 2 CB when no one throws near Tre, is probably one of the hardest jobs on the team. They also don’t often help him out with the coverage. He always plays hard and with good technique— just seems to be a step slow when he gets beat. 
 

For a #2 CB, we could do a lot worse. 

 

True and many teams will move their #1 guy to follow the offenses #1 WR, the Bills don't seem to do that very much so Wallace is often going up again the #1 guy.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

There was/still are a ***** ton of Edge rushers available that can def improve what we have... 

 

I'm listening....who are these ***** ton of edge rushers still available that can def. improve us?

[JerseyBills]

2 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Good. He texted me back so I support this decision

He Called me back😎

 

Been waiting for this news! So underrated!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

23 minutes ago, Logic said:

I love that Levi Wallace told his agent not to even entertain any other offers, because he wants to be a Bill, because “we are going to win a Super Bowl”.

 

How can you not love that?!

 

As others have said, Levi is a GREAT “worse case scenario” to have as CB2, but I bet they draft one high and give Dane Jackson a long look, too.

 

I think what he said is "don't even counter" which is a little different.  Says the offer that came in was unacceptable.

 

Just now, JerseyBills said:

He Called me back😎

 

Been waiting for this news! So underrated!

 

100% class guy too.

[K-9]

Glad he’s back in the fold. I’ve liked this kid since learning about his story when he was a senior at Alabama. He’s the essence of “football” character. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

17 minutes ago, Virgil said:

One positive, we won’t be worse than last year on pass defense, which was pretty good.  
 

I love that we can go BPA in the draft 

Unlikely. It is what Beane says but not what he does.  If they do not sign a pass rusher or TE in free agency, you can bet he will draft two DL(edge and NT) and TE witin the first four picks.  The fourth will be either a DB or RB.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I think all the teams are strapped for cash, so the big paydays that players ordinarily look for aren't there this year.   The result is that the differential between what others are offering and what the Bills offer isn't so large, so there's no reason for a guy to leave a team where he's had success to go to a new team and an uncertain future. 

 

That's a very valid point.  Especially when you are a "middle class" player, teams can promise you a lot - but how much is guaranteed?  You could go there where you don't know the system or the coaches, go through training camp, and get cut in September to find yourself looking for an new job.

 

There's a certain value in staying where you know the system and trust the coaches.

[JerseyBills]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm listening....who are these ***** ton of edge rushers still available that can def. improve us?

We're currently bringing now 20/22 starters from a team that made it to AFC Championship game! 

 

Even if we bring in no edge guys. You bank on your 2nd year guys progressing and keep drafting good!

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I didn’t even have time to miss him!

 

oh, I missed every second he was away.  

3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Unlikely. It is what Beane says but not what he does.  If they do not sign a pass rusher or TE in free agency, you can bet he will draft two DL(edge and NT) and TE witin the first four picks.  The fourth will be either a DB or RB.  

 

that would be very disappointing given the developmental talent at 30 at DE and TE.  

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm listening....who are these ***** ton of edge rushers still available that can def. improve us?

 

It's just my opinion but I am hoping Beane can find an Edge guy (be it DE or OLB) to fill the role similar to Lorax.

This time with a little more of pass rush.

 

I will not presume to know about all the players on this list but there is quite a few.  I hope it would happen.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/edge/

[Locomark]

Our equivalent to the Super Bowl years of Kirby Jackson is back... I am not saying that with pleasure either. 

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

Love his attitude. I think everyone agrees we want to see him continue to improve. Good player who gets targeted a lot. Time to step up.

[butch rolle]

I understand that you'll never be able to "coach up" Levi's athleticism but man, talk about a guy that has continued to dare people to count him out.  He WALKS ON to the University of Alabama and ends up as a starter.  Then he goes undrafted and fights his way through training camp to make the 53 man roster.  Then he claws his way up to CB2 on one of the top defenses in the NFL.  He is a solid zone corner who is a student of the game and fits Mcdermott and Frazier's systems perfectly.  That being said, we could use some additional speed in the backfield but I'm guessing that will come via the draft.

[Logic]

40 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think what he said is "don't even counter" which is a little different.  Says the offer that came in was unacceptable.

 

I stand corrected.

Nevertheless, the Tweet I'm referencing infers that Wallace had no interest in leaving the Bills. His preference was always to stay here. Maybe he's just saying that to save face because other offers weren't materializing, but I don't find it too hard to believe that a guy wants to stick with a team that gave him a shot in the league and with which he has comfort and familiarity.

[DrDawkinstein]

14 minutes ago, Tuel Time said:

Love his attitude. I think everyone agrees we want to see him continue to improve. Good player who gets targeted a lot. Time to step up.

 

There are folks here who know more about Xs and Os than me that can explain how McD's defense is designed to force targets to that #2 CB.

 

Plus, with White on the other side, teams certainly aren't throwing that way.

 

I don't mind the targets. He makes some plays, and gets burned sometimes, but isn't a flat out liability.

 

I hope Taron Johnson and Dane Jackson continue to battle for that #2 spot, and they all keep pushing each other to improve. Between them and Wallace, that isn't a bad mix of CBs.

[Agent 91]

2 hours ago, BruceVilanch said:

well I kept him around in madden and he is an 88 overall in 2025, so there's hope.

Lol he actually won cb of the year for me 2 times and teams actually thrown tredavious now. Its pretty funny actually

[Ethan in Cleveland]

50 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

oh, I missed every second he was away.  

 

that would be very disappointing given the developmental talent at 30 at DE and TE.  

What would you do? RB? OT? DB? All have plausible cases to be drafted by the Bills at 30. All could fill depth and be penciled in to replace others in the future - hell you can go Center at 30 and move on from Morse in 2022.  Edge and TE are the only positions where they may make an immediate impact on this team.    

There are what four maybe five QBs that could go in the first round and another four or more WR's (Pitts at TE and Surtain is also surely to go in the first 15).  Everyone of those picks pushes the defensive front 7 talent down the board.  

[Capco]

3 hours ago, whatdrought said:

It’s a good call. He’s insurance if we can’t get a substantial upgrade at CB2, and he’s also injury protection.

 

Also, people always give Levi *****, but the reality is, while they haven’t tried that hard to replace him, they have made moves in various off seasons only to see Levi claim his job back. Give the man the respect he deserves. 

 

Thank you for this.  I agree 100%.

[Richard Noggin]

11 minutes ago, Agent 91 said:

Lol he actually won cb of the year for me 2 times and teams actually thrown tredavious now. Its pretty funny actually

Actually?

 

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Edited March 18, 2021 by Richard Noggin

[billsbackto81]

2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Except that the meh, depth, need an upgrade, guy wins the CB2 position battle every year... put that in your pipe and smoke it...

I have, and it tastes like dirt. The fact that the "meh" guy wins the position every year should tell you something other than your perception that he's a starting caliber CB. I don't hate the guy, but we need better at #2. 

[Buffalo Junction]

3 hours ago, whatdrought said:

Also, people always give Levi *****, but the reality is, while they haven’t tried that hard to replace him, they have made moves in various off seasons only to see Levi claim his job back. Give the man the respect he deserves. 

Bottom line is that Levi has fought for and kept his job. The kid just sticks and plays up to the competition of usurpers. That raises everyone’s game. 

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Carlos Dunlap, Justin Houston, hell I’d take a flyer on Oliver Vernon to name a few.... bringing back Addison is a big head scratcher. 

 

I'd really like to find someone under 30 to bring in at DE. I know DEs age well, and it's good to have some crafty vets, but we need to get someone besides Epenesa who can be here in the future.

[gonzo1105]

The problem I see is the CB class for the draft is rather pedestrian. They must be really high on Dane Jackson. The Bills can get a pass rusher at 30 but idk if theres going to be a corner at 30 that fits the Bills except for the Syracuse CB Melifonwu. 
 

I could still see a TE at 30 but not much there either. To me , RB is starting to look more and more likely as any other spot at 30 or in a 2nd round trade down scenario 

[Royale with Cheese]

I like Wallace.  He isn't great but not a complete liability.  3/4 of our secondary is very good....make that 4/5.

Edited March 18, 2021 by Royale with Cheese

[Hapless Bills Fan]

47 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Carlos Dunlap, Justin Houston, hell I’d take a flyer on Oliver Vernon to name a few.... bringing back Addison is a big head scratcher. 

 

That's not a ton, it's two, but I agree with you they'd be intriguing guys to bring in.

[1ManRaid]

4 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Good. He texted me back so I support this decision

 

If he called me, do I have to double support this decision?

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

The problem I see is the CB class for the draft is rather pedestrian. They must be really high on Dane Jackson. The Bills can get a pass rusher at 30 but idk if theres going to be a corner at 30 that fits the Bills except for the Syracuse CB Melifonwu. 
 

I could still see a TE at 30 but not much there either. To me , RB is starting to look more and more likely as any other spot at 30 or in a 2nd round trade down scenario 

There's only 1 TE worth taking in the 1st round and he'll be long gone by 30. If we somehow trade for Ertz than we go DE ( Basham/Phillips) or Najee?

[foreboding]

Spots are almost all filled! Crazy, Beane is wide open in the draft. We might see a RB if they love one of them...

[Malazan]

6 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

The most dangerous word in sports is potential, I don't want to be in TE purgatory with Knox. 

 

If you're talking about potential and they're not a rookie then it means they're inconsistent and there's nothing more useless in the NFL than an inconsistent player who "Flashes (oh, how I hate that word)" potential. 

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by jeremy2020

[GunnerBill]

Good. Still think we should try and upgrade if the chance falls to us in the draft but my worry was Dane Jackson with 200 pro snaps just being pencilled in as a starter. The kid looked decent but that was too big of a risk for me. Levi gives you a solid, experienced, vet presence.

[machine gun kelly]

I’m happy for him and must be tough playing opposite of Tre.  He knows opposing offenses are going to target him the entire game.  He’s a decent depth player so for whatever we’re paying him, I’m happy for him.

[BobbyC81]

8 hours ago, whatdrought said:

It’s a good call. He’s insurance if we can’t get a substantial upgrade at CB2, and he’s also injury protection.

 

Also, people always give Levi *****, but the reality is, while they haven’t tried that hard to replace him, they have made moves in various off seasons only to see Levi claim his job back. Give the man the respect he deserves. 

You mean EJ Gaines isn’t coming back?