Big Blitz Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 If he wants 8-9 mill for 3 years I'm good. That's his worth as of now, today. But some team is going to pay him 12-14 or more for 3. No way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 He's a great fit for this team and this community, in every way. And he still had it a little over a year ago, when he dominated the Bills in the playoff game! His issue is injuries. If he's smart he'll come to Buffalo, extend his career by several years (thanks to the state of the art training/rehab facilities here), and win a few championships in the process. GO BILLS!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) What an epic edit... Edited February 12, 2021 by Do The Reich Thing 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Love JJ Watt but at this stage I think he is a 3-4 end only. He could play some 3 tech in a 4 man front in Buffalo but I am not sure that is where our need really is. I don't think at this stage in his career he is a 4-3 Edge guy. He fits everything Buffalo needs except position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 The good thing about the current Bills is we are a competitive team, with players who love playing for the organization and have fallen in love with the town. Players like Watt aren’t a pipe dream like we’ve had to deal with in the past. If he comes in at a reduced salary with an easy way out if the first year doesn’t work, why not. Depends on the dollars and guarantees he really wants. My sense is he’s looking to win versus payday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, MJS said: Ouch. Not even trading him then. Seems like they could have gotten something for him. That was the point. They are going to let him be able to choose where he plays next. By releasing him, vs possibly trading him to a trash team, that’s why Ian said “franchise with class”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: He fits everything Buffalo needs except position. That's debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: Oh please sweet baby Jesus, get it done Beane. Get it done right now sure. just don't break the bank for the shiny object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I see him as a Quinton Jefferson type on this DL- thoughts? If he'd come and play for Q's contract - I'm all in. I think you are right that would be his role, the role they intended Jefferson to play when he arrived which was to be a big end when they go to their jumbo package on defense and then reduce down and play inside in their pass rush package. But I doubt JJ is going anywhere for $6m per year to be a rotational player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: That's debatable. Huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I see him as a Quinton Jefferson type on this DL- thoughts? Where did Q play mostly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Unless the guy has been terrible with his money, I highly doubt money will be the over-riding factor in choosing his next location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, letsgoteam said: He's going to go play with his brother in Pitt, right? Only if he plays for less money to do so. A lot of money for a 3tech, but stranger things have happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Process said: I'd be ok with a d line of hughes star oliver watt. Cut butler jefferson and addison and bring in some youth in the draft. A new MLB is also key. If at his age he wants a ring, he’d be smart to come here. I never wanted to trade for the guy, but with Star back, Edmunds and Oliver will be better like last year. Now you get him at a fair deal, you can cut several guys that didn’t perform. You can afford if there are some restructures, pay cuts, and cuts. I’m all for that one in this situation with no draft picks. Hes not dumb. He knows instead of GB, with a QB with only a couple years left, he could go with a #2 rated power rankings team, immediately help, keep someone to rotate, and make Oliver look really darn good. If he just wants $ then no. My guess is he wants a ring. Pitt doesn’t need him on defense, amd if he could be a 65% guy vs. 90% guy, he could maybe extend himself. How does any older but valuable player not want to get on this train when he knows he is what we need. Ive been anti watt trade, but I’m all for an ok contract no trade worries deal. That’s different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: If he wants 8-9 mill for 3 years I'm good. That's his worth as of now, today. But some team is going to pay him 12-14 or more for 3. No way. I've said the same thing. Cutting Jefferson and Butler saves us $12.5M Give JJ $9-10M and save $3M to spend on the OL. Edited February 12, 2021 by DrDawkinstein 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Watt would be an immediate upgrade for the Bills. He might not be as dominant as he once was but he is still a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If he'd come and play for Q's contract - I'm all in. I think you are right that would be his role, the role they intended Jefferson to play when he arrived which was to be a big end when they go to their jumbo package on defense and then reduce down and play inside in their pass rush package. But I doubt JJ is going anywhere for $6m per year to be a rotational player. 8th in the NFL as an edge rusher at pressure rate (Hughes was 2nd). Cut Addison, and get Watt. Hughes, Watt, Epenesa, Jefferson would make a good rotation. Hopefully Star comes back, which free up Oliver and the LBs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Likely losing their 3 star players in a little over a season, difficult to imagine players wanting to go there because of their "class". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I will suggest again that in his end-of-season press conference, McDermott was talking to Watt when he said Quote This place is a special place, surrounded by a special fan base, and where else would you rather come to play the best football of your career? This is to me a great place to play if you're truly passionate and love the game of football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, Nester said: A Watt Jersey would be an instant add to my collection. I think a jersey is more valuable than the player at this point unless he is willing to take a lot less than he was overpaid by Texans. Why would he choose Buffalo? Because have one of the best rehab teams in NFL and he uses it a lot. Plus he has no chance of being same team as De$haun Wat$on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 How much is Harrison Phillips going to charge for #99??? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Love JJ Watt but at this stage I think he is a 3-4 end only. He could play some 3 tech in a 4 man front in Buffalo but I am not sure that is where our need really is. I don't think at this stage in his career he is a 4-3 Edge guy. He completed 2020 with the second most snaps in his career. As part of a rotation I am very confident McDermott can find a place for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: 8th in the NFL as an edge rusher at pressure rate (Hughes was 2nd). Cut Addison, and get Watt. Hughes, Watt, Epenesa, Jefferson would make a good rotation. Hopefully Star comes back, which free up Oliver and the LBs But he wasn't an "edge rusher". He was playing as an end in a 3-4 and attacking the B gap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 This just dawned on me and it's a scary thing to think about. If the Jests end up getting Watson, they may end up getting Watt as well. That would be crazy with Watt and Mosely and getting a top 5 QB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: He completed 2020 with the second most snaps in his career. As part of a rotation I am very confident McDermott can find a place for him. And if he wants to come ring chase and play in the rotation and take $6.5m AAV I am all for signing him. If we are looking at JJ as the guy to give us the outside edge rush we have lacked then that isn't him at this stage for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I know I’m a pain in the butt with a bunch of fantasy stuff, but this one makes sense. STOP GETTING ME SO EXCITED! I’m in boys! Make it happen Beane. I hate this as I sound like a Madden kid. Just think about Star, Oliver, Jerrah (ours), and JJ. Edmunds would have a cake walk in his job. Jefferson, Butler, and even Addison should start worrying. Cut Brown and maybe we could even keep Williams, Mongo, Ford comes back, draft what we need, and sign a TE in FA. This morning they pointed out an experienced TE is critical as so few blow up in the draft. Cant wait for September, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 keep this dude in a bubble during the season and turn him loose in the playoffs... Sign him Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: But he wasn't an "edge rusher". He was playing as an end in a 3-4 and attacking the B gap. Did not know. They had him listed as an edge rusher. I honestly didnt watch a Houston game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I think the logical place if he wants to ring chase is Green Bay. Home state, NFC (weaker conference) and they run the scheme he has played in his whole pro career. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LABILLBACKER Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 If we get him he will be the most amazing defensive pick up ever. If we don't he will be an aging bust who we should've stayed clear of. These will be the 2 fan narratives. Wait for it...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: This guy annoys me.... that being said he'd be a big help to the defensive line despite his injury history and slight decline in production. I think this supposed 'decline in production' is a direct result of who he was playing with...name one other texans defensive linemen lol I cant...watt was probably doubled all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Pittsburgh makes too much sense. I suspect he doesn’t even care about the money. Gets to play with both his brothers and on the no. 1 defense in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Haven't been paying super close attention to the situation in Houston. Just read this article. Holy cow what a trainwreck in Houston... https://www.battleredblog.com/2021/2/8/22272208/houston-texans-dismiss-multiple-employees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, DCOrange said: This doesn’t make sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Hebert19 said: He will end up in Tampa Pittsburgh Green Bay or here. He will want to go to a contender where he will start. Contender yes. Buffalo will probably talk to him if he is interested. Starting is not important. He is now a situational player that would benefit from rotation. It will prolong his career. He is a veteran and he knows that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I think this supposed 'decline in production' is a direct result of who he was playing with...name one other texans defensive linemen lol I cant...watt was probably doubled all season They have definitely lost talent on that line the last two years with Reader and Clowney going. They still have Merciless as an edge rushing linebacker. I don't think he is the player he was a couple of years back but he can still be a very effective player if used correctly. Just not sure that "correctly" is rushing off the edge in a 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Hey, maybe Beane can sign him on the cheap. Had to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: But he wasn't an "edge rusher". He was playing as an end in a 3-4 and attacking the B gap. That’s not true. He played all over and with multiple looks and responsibilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, ExWNYer said: Doubtful unless he plans to sign for the vet minimum (not happening). Pittsburgh is currently about $30 million over the cap and has their own FAs to sign. And he wants to win a ring. If the Stillers run it back with Roethlisberger or even a rookie this year, they are not a true contender, IMO. They are close to entering 'drought era Bills' territory until they find a franchise QB, regardless of their D. Interesting, thanks. I didnt realize where they were cap wise, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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