TBBills Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/6573537002. The guy is a great football player, no doubt and is clearly better than Edmunds but hindsight is always 20/20. He could be a big factor in the game Saturday. He’s a playmaker. Hahahaha LBers holding a grudge .. that is reserved for QBs when it comes to drafting. This guy is just a copycat... He will have plenty of time to think about that grudge when the Bills send his ass home. Edited January 7, 2021 by TBBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I mean, except one thing is verrrrry different. Leonard is a stud. Rosen is trash. There is that... 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, JayBaller10 said: Wouldn’t say Edmunds is trash, but so far in his career he hasn’t proven to be an impact player, someone who must be accounted for. And I’m not sure he’ll ever develop those instincts and playmaking ability, but he is young. I'll admit to being a big Edmunds doubter. When I re-watch games, I just watch him on D and I swear to god it's the most frustrating thing. I KNOW that I don't understand the assignments. I've watched a few film sessions and had it explained to me that he was actually doing the right thing. But it seems he almost plays 1/2 hearted. No intensity, and usually only entering a play once it's already been made. As you said, No Impact. That said, he was on GMFB and in that interview, he talked about his family training in the offseason. What he described made it seem that football season is almost a break from his Mom's training routine. They are a family of athletes that push each other HARD! I've started to see him during games now, instead of having to look for him on the replay. It seems like he's on an upward trajectory and without a doubt, he will get better. How much better is a legit question, but with a family structure with that much focus, I'm willing to wait a bit more and see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Dear Darius Leonard, I AM RIGHT THERE WITH YOU, BROTHER. F*** THOSE M***** F****** BILLS!!!! Respectfully, Josh Rosen, QB* Playoff Bound Tampa Bay Buccaneers (* - Practice Squad QB or Pup Team QB, or Assistant to the Assistant Starting QB) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, noacls said: And so was Leonard. Any thing voted on by fans means nothing in my opinion. Anything voted on by fans means nothing in my opinion. Couldn’t help it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Guys, this is pretty standard stuff. Players are always looking for ways to motivate themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGeneral Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Dear Darius, we needed a MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Coming out of South Carolina State, it’s hard to say.... yeah he’s gonna be legit, especially if you have a freak of nature in Edmunds. Granted Leonard has played great. But Edmunds coming from a big 5 school, being young with ceiling who knows how high, size weight speed..... it’s hard to consider a guy from SC State being the guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Thurman Thomas famously held such a 'grudge' against every team early in his career. He was chosen in the 2nd round. Including the Bills? 🤔 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s welcome to sign here in FA if he wants to be in Buffalo and become the best version of himself. 🎵 He only wants to be with you? 🎶 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I find the "grudge" or "chip on his shoulder" storyline to be old and boring. Should we conclude from this that Darius Leonard would give a lesser effort against other teams? Not buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Say When... said: 2 out of 3 monumental douchebags so maybe you’re proving the point vs an arguement? BTW - not sure I’ve ever seen Josh specifically mention his draft position, who was taken before him vs just “i am doubted and I’m going to use it as motivation and prove them wrong” It depends in what context we are talking, are we talking about whether they are likeable in or whether they are good players? yeah they are both guys with massive egos brady and rogers but they've won consistently. I don't like them much but doing what they do has worked for them. Having a chip on their shoulder has made all of them better I would argue. I saw it somewhere where Allen said something like 6 teams rejected me and it drives me on. No argument that Allen is a more likeable guy than the other two, he doesn't lose his temper with teammates on the sideline and doesnt think he is the best player on the team. He still has a moxy and swagg though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBobs Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/6573537002. The guy is a great football player, no doubt and is clearly better than Edmunds but hindsight is always 20/20. He could be a big factor in the game Saturday. He’s a playmaker. That's pretty lame -- it's not as though we drafted a bust of a player in his place or he had any ties to Buffalo. The team liked Edmunds more and he ended up in a good situation in Indianapolis, be grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 30 minutes ago, london_bills said: It depends in what context we are talking, are we talking about whether they are likeable in or whether they are good players? yeah they are both guys with massive egos brady and rogers but they've won consistently. I don't like them much but doing what they do has worked for them. Having a chip on their shoulder has made all of them better I would argue. I saw it somewhere where Allen said something like 6 teams rejected me and it drives me on. No argument that Allen is a more likeable guy than the other two, he doesn't lose his temper with teammates on the sideline and doesnt think he is the best player on the team. He still has a moxy and swagg though Performance and behavior are two different things in my mind but if you’re coming from a “they are good so they can say whatever they want” then you’re right in your assessment. I’m in the “act like you've been there before or let your product on the field speak for itself” camp; and certianly believe neither Brady nor Rogers need any further motivation beyond just trying to be the best so saying “y’all passed me up and I’m going to make you eat it” just tarnishes the medals for me. You dont have to go out of your way to be likeable but just being a good and decent person is appreciated more, and genuine humility isn’t a weakness, especially if you have talent oozing from your pores and you REALLY are that good. and if Josh did say about his draft position that then i put him in that same category, I’d back him on the doubters, Nick, Skip, etc. but teams draft individuals for reasons other than “you could be good”. sportsmanship is in danger of becoming extinct, hopefully it regains form at some point; but then maybe we need villains like BB and Brady to balance the “nice guys”; it certianly entertains my time and maybe that’s the point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I am not sure I understand his problem with The Bills. Every team in the NFL passed on him at least once, including his current team. Perhaps he just is not very bright. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, FLFan said: I am not sure I understand his problem with The Bills. Every team in the NFL passed on him at least once, including his current team. Perhaps he just is not very bright. I think he needed something for the PR department, and this was the best they could think up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 We are officially doomed, it was a great season though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, Limeaid said: I have heard that garbage men are the best at determining what is trash. Not always true for garbage man picked up a night light on my brick wall but generally the theory is sound. Jalen Ramsey called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Great player. Him and Q Nelson are their 2 best players imo. But good luck Darius , we're the big dogs in the AFC! Be careful what you wish for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Is this just another one of those “anyone who didn’t draft me” grudges? Lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Including the Bills? 🤔 That was retroactive when he became a Dolphin (something I still try not to remember) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) Hell he's got nothing on our fan base when it comes to holding grudges. "You didn't draft me, I'm sad" Edited January 8, 2021 by The Wiz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/6573537002. The guy is a great football player, no doubt and is clearly better than Edmunds but hindsight is always 20/20. He could be a big factor in the game Saturday. He’s a playmaker. Edmunds is a full THREE years younger (less two months) than Leonard is. Edmunds is already a Pro Bowler leading this defense. I'm happy with what we got. He's got more room to get much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 10 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: That was retroactive when he became a Dolphin (something I still try not to remember) I was curious (and genuinely unaware) if he was disgruntled over not being taken in the first round. 😁 * NFL team: "Welcome to the organization!" Draftee: "This is the second round! You're all idiots!" 10 hours ago, The Wiz said: Hell he's got nothing on our fan base when it comes to holding grudges. "You didn't draft me, I'm sad" Multiple awards! 🏆🍺👍🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I was curious (and genuinely unaware) if he was disgruntled over not being taken in the first round. 😁 * NFL team: "Welcome to the organization!" Draftee: "This is the second round! You're all idiots!" He was! But the beautiful thing about it was the Bills had no 1st round pick that year so he was their first pick. It was the perfect team. (I believe the #1 went to LA or Indy in the Bennett trade) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 20 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/6573537002. The guy is a great football player, no doubt and is clearly better than Edmunds but hindsight is always 20/20. He could be a big factor in the game Saturday. He’s a playmaker. I don't think Leonard is "clearly better" than Edmunds. Edmunds is 22 years old and still growing into that large frame, while also showing some terrific promise as he incrementally improves. Folks were down on Edmunds earlier in the year but fail to fully account for his injury and how significant it was for his ability to play. Leonard is 25 years old and the Colts play a different type of Defense. Now, does Leonard put up more stats? No way to disagree, but does that make him "clearly better"? Not in my opinion. If in 3 years Edmunds hasn't shown to play at or above Leonard's level of play within the Defense McD / Frazier run, then I'll concede the point. But right now, Edmunds looks like he's rounding into form and his age can't be ignored when comparing the two players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 This is the 4th team he’s said he holds a grudge against... grow up dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 It's a case of little man syndrome. Just comes with the territory. Only this little man can back it up, so...whatever works for him I guess lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Imagine how big his grudge will be when they lose tomorrow... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Sounds like he trains at Cobra Kai with the me against the world mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerdaddynj Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 And, Jerry Hughes is probably very happy the Colts traded him to the Bills for Kelvin Sheppard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/7/2021 at 12:37 PM, london_bills said: Tom Brady, Josh Allen and Rogers have said the same about teams passing on them and being pissed I mean...Brady kinda had a point, didn't he? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I’m fine if a player has a chip on their shoulder but having a grudge against a team(s) that didn’t draft him is so tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy22 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/7/2021 at 11:25 AM, Jpsredemption said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/6573537002. The guy is a great football player, no doubt and is clearly better than Edmunds but hindsight is always 20/20. He could be a big factor in the game Saturday. He’s a playmaker. I think its dumb weak bulletin board material.. It makes zero sense im sure its not going to make him that much better this game... what will make him better is its a damn playoff game and everyone should be max hyped for that reason alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I am not even going to say that he is better then Edmunds.......I dont think that is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/7/2021 at 10:59 AM, YoloinOhio said: Wasn’t Luck still playing when josh was drafted or no? Thought he retired in 2019 You just keep those facts to yourself, mister. They're doing nothing to support the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I am not even going to say that he is better then Edmunds.......I dont think that is true Agreed, still a long way to go. I like what we have in Edmunds. This is something I hope Edmunds reads and goes out and puts on his own show. The OP seems a tad over invested in this. Either a Leonard lover or Edmunds hater? Edited January 8, 2021 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Boxcar said: I mean...Brady kinda had a point, didn't he? Lol. 6th round, unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) On 1/7/2021 at 11:29 AM, BillsCuse said: Pretty petty on his part to be honest. A team liked another player over you - get over it. I'm sure Josh feels the same way. But, he has the class to keep it to himself instead of airing out his petty grudge for all the world to see. Let it fuel you Darius but not consume you. To be fair Diggs has the same grudge towards all WRs drafted before him as well. Edited January 8, 2021 by billsbackto81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Bills fans don't give a ***** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I hope Leonard talks smack to Diggs, Allen!! Please do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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