Greg S Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Question for you, why would the Jets trade Darnold if he's worth a 1st and 2nd in return? Sounds like you think he's playing well? If so you don't trade away a QB playing really good. Unless he's not playing really good, then why would any team give up that much for him? Maybe you could get a 2nd for him, but not likely mid-season as it's not likely you bring in a QB mid season and expect him to be able to learn the playbook and become your starter. Maybe you bring him in as a backup, but can't see giving up a #2 for a backup. Plus in off season would need to decide if you want to pick up the 5th year option basically without seeing much of his play. Maybe a team like Dallas that now needs a backup, but still don't them giving up that much for him when there are also other options out there. I think they hold on to Darnold at least until they know they will have #1 pick and are set on taking Lawrence. After the season I could see the Bucs, Saints, Steelers, and Colts as teams who will or could show interest in Darnold given the age of their starting QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Let me start with I'm not for trading anything to the Jets for Bell! However, let's say hypothetically the Jets would take a conditional 6th or 7th round pick for him. The Bills could add him or the season at the cost of $5.84 million and leave the Jets with a dead cap hit of around $12 million. The way his contract is structured Buffalo could then trade him or release him in the offseason with next to no cap hit. Again I'm not advocating for this but if it happened not only could the Bill screw the Jets but they could get a solid second back who would want nothing more than to stick it to Gase. Edited October 13, 2020 by FlaFitz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) I gave Le'Veon Bell high marks for having the courage to bet on himself. Unfortunately, he's lost that bet bigtime. If Tyrod is "unlucky", then Le'Veon Bell has no luck at all. Gloom, despair, and agony on meeeee..... Edited October 13, 2020 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Bill O'Brien before he got fired. Now it's too late. Exactly. There are much fewer boneheads around. 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I think someone could cough up a 2 or 3 for bell. I could see Arizona, Washington, Tampa for checkdown Tommy, Chicago, all of those teams have hopes for playoffs and could afford the gamble. I’m sure there’s some AFC teams that might risk it too. His out is 4 million dead cap in the offseason? I think. Someone might risk it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Evil eye genius strikes again. LOL. Gase and his GM may manage to completely destroy the entire franchise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, RiotAct said: was that the game they busted out the snowplows at halftime for a very light dusting of snow, and then subsequently jacked up the field by making the rubber pellets fly everywhere, delaying the start of the 2nd half? Good times. I honestly don’t know. I was drinking White Russians before the game and then I switched to beer at the game. Then started drinking White Russians again in the parking lot at halftime. All I remember is Bell tearing it up and Tyrod looking like Tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Evil eye genius strikes again. LOL. Gase and his GM may manage to completely destroy the entire franchise. Gase is getting fired for sure but I hope he makes it to the Bills game. The Bills shouldn't have any trouble with the Jets no matter what but sometimes a coaching change can spark a team. Look at the Texans with Romeo Crennel this past Sunday. Edited October 13, 2020 by Greg S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 See how many cases of Gase's 'private reserve' ammonia inhalants they'll throw in to the deal. 🤔 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: patriots, panthers or browns come to mind immediately Patriots have like five productive backs. I don't see it, the other two teams I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 He had ZERO carries over 20 yards last year - talk about a depreciating asset. If you want 18 carries for 56 yards, and 5 catches for 22 yards, he's your guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: I honestly don’t know. I was drinking White Russians before the game and then I switched to beer at the game. Then started drinking White Russians again in the parking lot at halftime. All I remember is Bell tearing it up and Tyrod looking like Tyrod 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Bell never never never a million times never should’ve left Pittsburgh. He should’ve signed a good 4 year deal with Pittsburgh. He would’ve saw every penny of that deal in Pittsburgh and he would still be considered a top 5 RB. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 58 minutes ago, aristocrat said: i don't think they'd get much for him really. if they can literally just get anything for him it's a win. they need to trade darnold and get at least a first and a second for him and go for the full rebuild. they would almost be a lock for lawrence. have the extra first next year and year after from the adams trade, another first this year and a second from darnold. they could really surround lawrence with talent. but of course i dont want them to do that. it would be too smart a new GM and Coach dream scenario really. Imagine what Beane and McDermott could do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Evil eye genius strikes again. LOL. Gase and his GM may manage to completely destroy the entire franchise. They already did. Now they're salting the earth so nothing may grow again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said: patriots, panthers or browns come to mind immediately Patriots? Not a chance would Belichick take on that contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Bell's worst move ever was begging out of Pittsburgh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: Bill O'Brien before he got fired. Now it's too late. I think he offered up his first born, but the league didnt allow it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: They already did. Now they're salting the earth so nothing may grow again. I think they are beyond salting, I think they are using Agent Orange and destroying all signs of life and preventing any future life to even grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, aristocrat said: It's pretty widely accepted the Jets have completely botched his development and just left him with a ***** o line and no weapons on offense. There wouldn't be many suitors for a deal like this but the Colts come to mind. They'd have to give up on Rivers right now though which is highly unlikely. Colts have a great o line, lots of weapons on offense, great coaching etc. They have a nice window at the moment and Rivers isn't exactly elevating his play as many thought he would. You have to wonder if Darnold with a great o line, great coaching and actualy nfl talent at wr could get his game back together. Darnold is alone on that team, but he has other problems that are all his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, Greg S said: I think they hold on to Darnold at least until they know they will have #1 pick and are set on taking Lawrence. After the season I could see the Bucs, Saints, Steelers, and Colts as teams who will or could show interest in Darnold given the age of their starting QB's Agree, can't see them getting much of anything in return for a mid-season QB trade, they'd do better at year end. Bucs certainly would make sense as Bradys heir but you still have this issue of the contract, by the end of 2021 his contract will be up unless you pick up the option and that still only gives you one more year so if you don't plan to play him regularly in the next two seasons, he likely becomes a big unknown. Saints and Steelers would think a better option could by Ryan as they are ready to win now and have a smaller window left. Think Rivers is older than Ryan?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said: patriots, panthers or browns come to mind immediately I would have said Houston, but they showed BOB the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, Greg S said: Look at the Texans with Romeo Crennel this past Sunday. In all fairness, I believe that Texans game had less to do with the coach being fired and more to do with the fact that Minschew is not remotely close to the QB people make him out to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said: patriots, panthers or browns come to mind immediately Panthers? They gunna spend 30m/yr on rbs? Doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, H2o said: I would have said Houston, but they showed BOB the door. Plus, you know, Miami already owns their next 9 drafts. Good thing Tunstil made that team so much better 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, FlaFitz1 said: Let me start with I'm not for trading anything to the Jets for Bell! However, let's say hypothetically the Jets would take a conditional 6th or 7th round pick for him. The Bills could add him or the season at the cost of $5.84 million and leave the Jets with a dead cap hit of around $12 million. The way his contract is structured Buffalo could then trade him or release him in the offseason with next to no cap hit. Again I'm not advocating for this but if it happened not only could the Bill screw the Jets but they could get a solid second back who would want nothing more than to stick it to Gase. Jets would have to eat his contract a lot more than that, especially how horrible and useless he’s been since being a jet. I say no more than a 7th and the Jets eat majority of his guaranteed money on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Agree, can't see them getting much of anything in return for a mid-season QB trade, they'd do better at year end. Bucs certainly would make sense as Bradys heir but you still have this issue of the contract, by the end of 2021 his contract will be up unless you pick up the option and that still only gives you one more year so if you don't plan to play him regularly in the next two seasons, he likely becomes a big unknown. Saints and Steelers would think a better option could by Ryan as they are ready to win now and have a smaller window left. Think Rivers is older than Ryan?? 1 hour ago, Greg S said: I think they hold on to Darnold at least until they know they will have #1 pick and are set on taking Lawrence. After the season I could see the Bucs, Saints, Steelers, and Colts as teams who will or could show interest in Darnold given the age of their starting QB's Didn't the Bucs just get Josh Rosen? Seems to me like they may not be all that interested in another 1st round QB from 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Send him to Florida where all aging people and players go. Hey Tampa, we got another one for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: In all fairness, I believe that Texans game had less to do with the coach being fired and more to do with the fact that Minschew is not remotely close to the QB people make him out to be. That and their kicker actively boned them when the game was close which then caused them not to kick any more FGs all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, prissythecat said: Didn't the Bucs just get Josh Rosen? Seems to me like they may not be all that interested in another 1st round QB from 2018. Forgot about that! Unless they've already soured on Rosen, Didn't take Miami long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, IDBillzFan said: His trade value has to be shot at this juncture. The worse part is that even if they can get something for him, they still have Gase. I genuinely don't understand how the owners don't see him for the virus that he is. Gase is still there for one reason: It gives the Jets the best chance at drafting Lawrence. Any other coach might eke out 2-3 wins, forcing the Jets to stick with hang dog Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 At this point I imagine the Jets want to get as much draft capital as possible to attract a new HC next year. Unfortunately for them, they're selling low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Didn't the Bucs just get Josh Rosen? Seems to me like they may not be all that interested in another 1st round QB from 2018. Rosen is on their practice squad. Either party can end it in a second. Darnold has a much better shot of being a decent NFL QB than Rosen. The league has basically voted Rosen off the island after seeing him play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 If one looks up “dumpster fire” in Webster’s will one find a JETS Logo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) His running style makes him lethal with a good o-line. Colts would make sense as Rivers loves checking the ball down. Taylor's a rookie. Edited October 13, 2020 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: Gase is still there for one reason: It gives the Jets the best chance at drafting Lawrence. Any other coach might eke out 2-3 wins, forcing the Jets to stick with hang dog Darnold. I just realized who Darnold reminds me of, Jake Delhomme. The way they move around in the pocket, the throwing motion, all of it. The only difference at this point is Darnold doesn't have a Steve Smith. I still think Darnold can have a decent career if he lands in the right situation. A place with a solid OL, solid coaching, and decent weapons around him. For his sake I hope the Jets do trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, H2o said: I just realized who Darnold reminds me of, Jake Delhomme. The way they move around in the pocket, the throwing motion, all of it. The only difference at this point is Darnold doesn't have a Steve Smith. I still think Darnold can have a decent career if he lands in the right situation. A place with a solid OL, solid coaching, and decent weapons around him. For his sake I hope the Jets do trade him. I wouldn’t say Delhomme, I actually compared Darnold to Jake Plummer, showed that he had it at times but makes too many dumb decisions and can’t read defenses consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: That and their kicker actively boned them when the game was close which then caused them not to kick any more FGs all day. Good point. And for the record, I took no joy in watching Hauschka struggle. 22 minutes ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: Gase is still there for one reason: It gives the Jets the best chance at drafting Lawrence. Any other coach might eke out 2-3 wins, forcing the Jets to stick with hang dog Darnold. I think the Falcons will give the Jets a run for their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I remember when they backed up the Brinks truck for him and then he would not show up to their voluntary training camp... sure its voluntary, but they just paid you a ton of money and that was a good chance to get to know your teammates. I don't think he is a McBeane "Process" guy. “When it’s time to play football…” Bell wrote on Instagram. “I got to stick to the formula that I know works for me to be the best player I can be…I’m not just tryna win football games, I want a ring. I want to desperately show everybody what I can REALLY do…I’ll take the heat right now, everybody will forget about that once January comes around.” https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/12/leveon-bell-likes-tweets-saying-jets-should-trade-him/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, wjag said: Send him to Florida where all aging people and players go. Hey Tampa, we got another one for you. Funny thing - when I have the misfortune to see the Jets play I always see Bell as a young back. Can't help it when the alternative to him is Frank Gore - Bell may be approaching being NFL senior citizen - but Frank Gore is on life support as an NFL player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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