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My favorite part is at the end, when even with a win vs Miami we get to 7-9 insted of 8-8 hehe 

 

JK my friend, but I hope you are wrong. It could happend but I´m sure we can play with anybody and beat anybody. We just need to play more consistent football. 

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People go off the deep end here. The Bills lost to two of the top teams in the NFL. The Ravens have a much better defense than the Bills right now and got torched by the Chiefs. The Bills are not an elite team but that doesnt  mean they arent a playoff team. Just win the AFCeast and go from there. To say they will lose both games to the Pats is Beaten Bills Syndrome. Denver came into NE and beat them with field goals. 

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1 minute ago, High Football IQ said:

 

It was a typo, I actually have us losing to the Dolphins especially now that that it's Tua Time.

 

Guarantee that Flores and the front office made this decision partly on what happened last night knowing they should have beat the Bills the first time a few weeks ago and are right in the thick on the playoff/division race now.

 

I think it was their plan from the begining to start Tua right after the bye. 

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18 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I am down big time right now on the Bills but I think it is overkill.

 

Bills are at least as good as the Pats, i think a split there is more reasonable.  Also we can beat both the 49ers and Cardinals, plus there will be games we win in upsets.

 

Overall i think 9-7 or 10-6 is more reasonable  

 

I am not down all that much. We lost to two teams with a combined 10-1 record. The Bills are a good team but they are not at an elite level yet. They also have issues to fix that probably won't be fixed until the offseason (draft, FA,). Truth is the red flags with this defense started with the Miami game and really showed itself against the Rams in the 2nd half. I still think they get to 10 wins. Win this week 5-2 with a shot at 6-2 vs the Pats next week. If the Bills can win B2B division games then they are in the drivers seat for the division.

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I come here for the Bills talk, but I stay for the over reactive drama after every loss.  You realize that we would have most likely beat the Chiefs last night if that fumble in the 4th quarter would have counted, right?  (it was close but they ultimately made the right call, unfortunately) And that was with us still not having figured out our run Defense yet.  I have faith that McDermott and Frazier will get that figured out soon.  The only 2 sure losses on that list in my opinion are the Seahawks and the Steelers.  We have a chance in every other game on the schedule.  We just lost to 2 very good teams.  Way too early to assume the season is lost...

 

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Nothing about this season is a given. The schedule is on a pattern. You know the opponents for an infinite number of years ahead of time. It’s easy to figure out. All last year I kept saying how hard this year was going to be. I will be very happy if we make the playoffs. It’s not a given and it’s not going to be easy. The playoffs are absolutely not a certainty. Our schedule is brutal. No let up.

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6 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I come here for the Bills talk, but I stay for the over reactive drama after every loss.  You realize that we would have most likely beat the Chiefs last night if that fumble in the 4th quarter would have counted, right? 

assuming we actually punch it in the end zone, AND don’t leave the Chiefs enough time to get into field goal range...

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49 minutes ago, High Football IQ said:

I've been pondering the upcoming schedule a while now, and while this team is pretty much where I expected them to be through the first 6 games there is serious concern about how they may fare the rest of the way with many more TEN/KC type of teams and games left. And if the defense continues to be horrendous and Allen is regressing to the same guy we saw the first few years this could certainly be 2008/2011 all over again.

 

So this is my take and curious what others believe will happen:

 

@ Jets - W, 5-2

As bad as things are right now pretty sure this team will not struggle here but I certainly don't expect a 40-7 type of statement because that's not what McD teams do. If anything this will be one of his signature 27-17 type of 'blowouts' that we saw in week one.

 

Patriots - L, 5-3

As dire as things may look for the Patriots, Belichik is still lurking and knows they are only one game behind the Bills in the loss column as of today. I expect them to rebound against the 49ers this week and embarrass this team in a few weeks which is when the wheels truly begin to come off as McD falls to 0-7 vs the Pats and Belichik and the Bills time atop the AFC East likely ends for good this year.

 

Seahawks - L, 5-4

Another elite team up there with the Chiefs and Titans and even though their defense has also struggled we all know they'll look dominant against this team because that is the same story with the previous two weeks where a very poor defense on paper player their 'get on track' game against the Bills.

 

@ Cardinals - L, 5-5

Another week, another great QB and offense. Not sure the Cardinals are in the same weight class yet as some of the other teams the Bills face but unless things change drastically with the Bills defense they simply won't be able to keep up here with Weapons like Drake, Hopkins and Murray.

 

Bye

 

Chargers - W, 6-5

Desperate coming out of the bye the Bills end a 3 game losing streak and stay in the playoff picture and Allen leads a late 4th quarter comeback against a Chargers team that probably isn't playoff bound this year but has been a tough out and in every game this year so far.

 

@ 49ers - L, 6-6

Another tough primetime/west coast game that should be a close battle but the 49ers do enough to win to keep their season alive in a loaded division and conference and the we simply don't get it done in a game that was probably winnable.

 

Steelers - L, 6-7

This may very well be the best team in the AFC and they will send a message here not only effectively ending the Bills season but getting revenge for the Bills doing the same to them last year barely beating a team led by 'Duck' Hodges.

 

@ Broncos - W, 7-7

Denver will also likely be hanging on by a thread for any faint playoff hopes here but I could see this being the 'too little, too late' classic late season Bills dominant win (i.e. another McDermott 10 point margin of victory special).

 

@ Patriots - L, 7-8

Even if there is a faint chance the Bills could still make the playoffs and/or win the division here it's not happening especially if Belichik and the Patriots are in the drivers seat and I get the feeling they will be even if this is not the Patriots teams of years past.

 

Dolphins - L, 7-9

Whether they are in the playoff picture our not it will be another big blow to end the season realizing not only are their serious question marks about this franchise and current regime heading forward, bu the reality is they are going to behind both the Patriots and Dolphins in the division heading into the 2021 campaign, and oh by the way the Jets will likely be landing the next generational franchise QB with the #1 overall pick in Trevor Laurence.

 

 

Not sure if you have actually seen these other teams play.  

Agreed the Bills have some big issues, and they are not as good as many of us were hoping/expecting.  But most of the teams in the NFL are in the same boat.

 

The Bills should still be favored to win against the Jets, Patriots, Cardinals, Chargers, Broncos, Patriots and Dolphins.

It's quite possible they drop 1-2 of these.  But it's also quite possible they win 1-2 games they are expected to lose.

 

We are still a "Wild Card Level" team, fortunate enough to be in a crappy division that will only need 9-10 wins to emerge on top.

The real problem is that we aren't good enough to beat the class of the AFC (Chiefs, Ravens, Steelers, Titans), which likely means another early exit from the playoffs.

 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

This dude is still here? That's some serious 4d chess. Ill reply later as I have some high level business meetings to attend right now. 

 

Lol, yeah there's a few who suddenly snap out of a deep slumber as soon as this team loses. 

 

"Very concerning"

 

Covid and the economy are very concerning. This is a team in control of the AFC East that needs to make some adjustments.

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1 hour ago, High Football IQ said:

I've been pondering the upcoming schedule a while now, and while this team is pretty much where I expected them to be through the first 6 games there is serious concern about how they may fare the rest of the way with many more TEN/KC type of teams and games left. And if the defense continues to be horrendous and Allen is regressing to the same guy we saw the first few years this could certainly be 2008/2011 all over again.

 

So this is my take and curious what others believe will happen:

 

@ Jets - W, 5-2

As bad as things are right now pretty sure this team will not struggle here but I certainly don't expect a 40-7 type of statement because that's not what McD teams do. If anything this will be one of his signature 27-17 type of 'blowouts' that we saw in week one.

 

Patriots - L, 5-3

As dire as things may look for the Patriots, Belichik is still lurking and knows they are only one game behind the Bills in the loss column as of today. I expect them to rebound against the 49ers this week and embarrass this team in a few weeks which is when the wheels truly begin to come off as McD falls to 0-7 vs the Pats and Belichik and the Bills time atop the AFC East likely ends for good this year.

 

Seahawks - L, 5-4

Another elite team up there with the Chiefs and Titans and even though their defense has also struggled we all know they'll look dominant against this team because that is the same story with the previous two weeks where a very poor defense on paper player their 'get on track' game against the Bills.

 

@ Cardinals - L, 5-5

Another week, another great QB and offense. Not sure the Cardinals are in the same weight class yet as some of the other teams the Bills face but unless things change drastically with the Bills defense they simply won't be able to keep up here with Weapons like Drake, Hopkins and Murray.

 

Bye

 

Chargers - W, 6-5

Desperate coming out of the bye the Bills end a 3 game losing streak and stay in the playoff picture and Allen leads a late 4th quarter comeback against a Chargers team that probably isn't playoff bound this year but has been a tough out and in every game this year so far.

 

@ 49ers - L, 6-6

Another tough primetime/west coast game that should be a close battle but the 49ers do enough to win to keep their season alive in a loaded division and conference and the we simply don't get it done in a game that was probably winnable.

 

Steelers - L, 6-7

This may very well be the best team in the AFC and they will send a message here not only effectively ending the Bills season but getting revenge for the Bills doing the same to them last year barely beating a team led by 'Duck' Hodges.

 

@ Broncos - W, 7-7

Denver will also likely be hanging on by a thread for any faint playoff hopes here but I could see this being the 'too little, too late' classic late season Bills dominant win (i.e. another McDermott 10 point margin of victory special).

 

@ Patriots - L, 7-8

Even if there is a faint chance the Bills could still make the playoffs and/or win the division here it's not happening especially if Belichik and the Patriots are in the drivers seat and I get the feeling they will be even if this is not the Patriots teams of years past.

 

Dolphins - L, 7-9

Whether they are in the playoff picture our not it will be another big blow to end the season realizing not only are their serious question marks about this franchise and current regime heading forward, bu the reality is they are going to behind both the Patriots and Dolphins in the division heading into the 2021 campaign, and oh by the way the Jets will likely be landing the next generational franchise QB with the #1 overall pick in Trevor Laurence.

 

 

 

 

But the Pats are 2 games behind us in the loss column.  They are not a good team.  They are average at best.  If the Bills think they are a good team, they beat them twice this year. Honestly I think the Dolphins are better than the Patriots right now.

 

Also, Kyler Murray is NOT a great QB. At all. Not even close.

 

Also, in a week to week league, why do you make assumptions the Bills of the last 2 weeks will show up instead of the Bills of the first 4 weeks? Why do you assume teams that are going good now won't hit rough patches similar to the Bills?  

 

So you are taking the best of what the other teams have done and ignoring the worst while taking the worst of what the Bills have done and ignoring the best? Recency bias.

 

Bills will be just fine and will coast to the division title.

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As much as it seems otherwise, the Bills are not an automatic win for our "better" opponents.  We came up small against the Titans and Chiefs.  The D is hemorrhaging and Allen looks hurt or confused.  No doubt, it looks bad.  But as always in the NFL, the Bills should win a couple games that they are not supposed to win,,,  they just need to keep from losing the games they should win! 

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I see two games that, currently, I don't give us much of a chance in... Seattle and Pittsburgh. 

 

That can change if our defense find some semblance of ability and Josh/Offense get back on track.  He doesn't need to be an MVP candidate, but he can't be Chiefs Josh...that was shades of 2019 Baltimore/NE.  

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1 hour ago, High Football IQ said:

I've been pondering the upcoming schedule a while now, and while this team is pretty much where I expected them to be through the first 6 games there is serious concern about how they may fare the rest of the way with many more TEN/KC type of teams and games left. And if the defense continues to be horrendous and Allen is regressing to the same guy we saw the first few years this could certainly be 2008/2011 all over again.

 

So this is my take and curious what others believe will happen:

 

@ Jets - W, 5-2

As bad as things are right now pretty sure this team will not struggle here but I certainly don't expect a 40-7 type of statement because that's not what McD teams do. If anything this will be one of his signature 27-17 type of 'blowouts' that we saw in week one.

 

Patriots - L, 5-3

As dire as things may look for the Patriots, Belichik is still lurking and knows they are only one game behind the Bills in the loss column as of today. I expect them to rebound against the 49ers this week and embarrass this team in a few weeks which is when the wheels truly begin to come off as McD falls to 0-7 vs the Pats and Belichik and the Bills time atop the AFC East likely ends for good this year.

 

Seahawks - L, 5-4

Another elite team up there with the Chiefs and Titans and even though their defense has also struggled we all know they'll look dominant against this team because that is the same story with the previous two weeks where a very poor defense on paper player their 'get on track' game against the Bills.

 

@ Cardinals - L, 5-5

Another week, another great QB and offense. Not sure the Cardinals are in the same weight class yet as some of the other teams the Bills face but unless things change drastically with the Bills defense they simply won't be able to keep up here with Weapons like Drake, Hopkins and Murray.

 

Bye

 

Chargers - W, 6-5

Desperate coming out of the bye the Bills end a 3 game losing streak and stay in the playoff picture and Allen leads a late 4th quarter comeback against a Chargers team that probably isn't playoff bound this year but has been a tough out and in every game this year so far.

 

@ 49ers - L, 6-6

Another tough primetime/west coast game that should be a close battle but the 49ers do enough to win to keep their season alive in a loaded division and conference and the we simply don't get it done in a game that was probably winnable.

 

Steelers - L, 6-7

This may very well be the best team in the AFC and they will send a message here not only effectively ending the Bills season but getting revenge for the Bills doing the same to them last year barely beating a team led by 'Duck' Hodges.

 

@ Broncos - W, 7-7

Denver will also likely be hanging on by a thread for any faint playoff hopes here but I could see this being the 'too little, too late' classic late season Bills dominant win (i.e. another McDermott 10 point margin of victory special).

 

@ Patriots - L, 7-8

Even if there is a faint chance the Bills could still make the playoffs and/or win the division here it's not happening especially if Belichik and the Patriots are in the drivers seat and I get the feeling they will be even if this is not the Patriots teams of years past.

 

Dolphins - L, 7-9

Whether they are in the playoff picture our not it will be another big blow to end the season realizing not only are their serious question marks about this franchise and current regime heading forward, bu the reality is they are going to behind both the Patriots and Dolphins in the division heading into the 2021 campaign, and oh by the way the Jets will likely be landing the next generational franchise QB with the #1 overall pick in Trevor Laurence.

 

 

 


Its funny how we had this convo 5 weeks ago. There was a thread on here discussing the next 4 games: Rams, Raiders, Ten, and Chiefs. We went 2-2 during that tough stretch. 
 

You have us losing 2x vs the Patriots and against the Dolphins, not to mention every other toss up game. Tell us how you really feel. 

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I'm kind of grumpy about last night's game too, but honestly our Ws and Ls have gone exactly as I thought they were going to go so far.  I originally had us finishing 10-6, but now I'm leaning more toward 11-5 because I had us losing to SF and that one doesn't look so unwinnable now.  

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Lol, we aren't getting swept by the Pats, nor are we dropping 3 straight. 

 

We are coming off of two losses against the top two teams in the AFC, including the SB Champions.

 

Im disappointed, but no where near in the panic mode, or the "reality" you are in. 

 

I'll panic if we get beat by Gase and the winless Jets. 

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1 hour ago, High Football IQ said:

I've been pondering the upcoming schedule a while now, and while this team is pretty much where I expected them to be through the first 6 games there is serious concern about how they may fare the rest of the way with many more TEN/KC type of teams and games left. And if the defense continues to be horrendous and Allen is regressing to the same guy we saw the first few years this could certainly be 2008/2011 all over again.

 

So this is my take and curious what others believe will happen:

 

@ Jets - W, 5-2

As bad as things are right now pretty sure this team will not struggle here but I certainly don't expect a 40-7 type of statement because that's not what McD teams do. If anything this will be one of his signature 27-17 type of 'blowouts' that we saw in week one.

 

Patriots - L, 5-3

As dire as things may look for the Patriots, Belichik is still lurking and knows they are only one game behind the Bills in the loss column as of today. I expect them to rebound against the 49ers this week and embarrass this team in a few weeks which is when the wheels truly begin to come off as McD falls to 0-7 vs the Pats and Belichik and the Bills time atop the AFC East likely ends for good this year.

 

Seahawks - L, 5-4

Another elite team up there with the Chiefs and Titans and even though their defense has also struggled we all know they'll look dominant against this team because that is the same story with the previous two weeks where a very poor defense on paper player their 'get on track' game against the Bills.

 

@ Cardinals - L, 5-5

Another week, another great QB and offense. Not sure the Cardinals are in the same weight class yet as some of the other teams the Bills face but unless things change drastically with the Bills defense they simply won't be able to keep up here with Weapons like Drake, Hopkins and Murray.

 

Bye

 

Chargers - W, 6-5

Desperate coming out of the bye the Bills end a 3 game losing streak and stay in the playoff picture and Allen leads a late 4th quarter comeback against a Chargers team that probably isn't playoff bound this year but has been a tough out and in every game this year so far.

 

@ 49ers - L, 6-6

Another tough primetime/west coast game that should be a close battle but the 49ers do enough to win to keep their season alive in a loaded division and conference and the we simply don't get it done in a game that was probably winnable.

 

Steelers - L, 6-7

This may very well be the best team in the AFC and they will send a message here not only effectively ending the Bills season but getting revenge for the Bills doing the same to them last year barely beating a team led by 'Duck' Hodges.

 

@ Broncos - W, 7-7

Denver will also likely be hanging on by a thread for any faint playoff hopes here but I could see this being the 'too little, too late' classic late season Bills dominant win (i.e. another McDermott 10 point margin of victory special).

 

@ Patriots - L, 7-8

Even if there is a faint chance the Bills could still make the playoffs and/or win the division here it's not happening especially if Belichik and the Patriots are in the drivers seat and I get the feeling they will be even if this is not the Patriots teams of years past.

 

Dolphins - L, 7-9

Whether they are in the playoff picture our not it will be another big blow to end the season realizing not only are their serious question marks about this franchise and current regime heading forward, bu the reality is they are going to behind both the Patriots and Dolphins in the division heading into the 2021 campaign, and oh by the way the Jets will likely be landing the next generational franchise QB with the #1 overall pick in Trevor Laurence.

 

 

 

This is realistic, but of course you're getting flamed for being a realist on this board.

1 hour ago, Tortured Soul said:

Two losses against the Patriots but a win over the Broncos ... who just beat the Patriots?

Yes. That's not how it works.

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Sorry but you are just panicked after two losses to elite teams. I don't see the Bills not getting a split against the Pats nor do I not see a win in the Cardinals, 49ers and Dolphins games. So right there picking up at least two of those 5 games puts your projection at 9-7. I also think that it is more realistic there is another win in that schedule to get this team to 10 wins or even 11 if they can sweep the Pats. 

 

This team needs to regain its confidence against a bad Jets team and get to 5-2. Once they do that they can worry about Seattle and the harder games, just beat up on the Jets.

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2 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:


Your joking right 

 

Kyler would run circles around our defense lol 


Is that the standard we’re using to define who’s considered a great QB?

 

Fitz had a good game against our defense. Are we saying he’s great too?

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I realize Halloween and all is coming but this is the PRIME reason new folks should be limited to commenting and not creating posts.  My gawd man......thats some serious derangement word soup of an explanation of nothing there.  The last sentence in your first paragraph is laughable and the last sentence in your last paragraph is pure conjecture on your part.  SMFH.

 

Now....repeat after me...BREATHE.....BREATHE........BREATHE.

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