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How would you grade the trade the Bills just made for Stefon Diggs?  

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  1. 1. Bills traded a 1st-round pick, a 5th-round pick, a 6th-round pick and a 2021 4th-round pick for Vikings WR Stefon Diggs and a 2020 7th-round pick. What grade should the Bills receive for this trade?


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Just cant see how its not an A.     22 pick - Rookie WR with assurances to reach the level of play of Diggs or even become a bigger factor for 2 to 3 seasons.    or   22

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B - great player, should excel for us, but we paid a fair price

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I feel this is what we needed for Josh, and our offense, but I feel a little steep.  I would have preferred Hopkins, but he probably wasn't made available to the AFC (my guess).  I'll live with it, but now there is no excuses for Josh.  This is the year he takes the next step, or we have to consider drafting a Qb next year (in my OPINION).  Let's hope for the next step in his development, accuracy, and deep ball.  

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A

 

We got a #1 receiver. He might not be a top 5 WR1 or even top 10 but I don't think it matters.

 

Giving up our 1RD? I'll wager we win for the first 2 maybe 3 years, and that's assuming whoever we picked would become better than Diggs. There's no guarantee we hit on the 5th/6th this year, the onus is on MIN to do so.

 

The outrage over us giving up a 5th/6th in addition to this year's 1st and next year's 4th is a little over the top. By the same token the praise for MIN getting a massive haul seems a little premature. Sure it's a bunch of picks/scratch tickets but there seems to be an expectation that you turn these day 3 picks into dependable starters, let alone stars.

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Great talent, exactly what we need on offense, but will have to see how he carries himself with this team. Right now it's a B, but will easily be an A if he comes in and lights it up in this offense while being a quality locker room presence. 

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54 minutes ago, TOboy said:

B - great player, should excel for us, but we paid a fair price

That's exactly where I'm at. I like the trade, but for a 2nd rounder it would have been great and we would be talking about how Beane fleeced the Vikings. Solid trade for both sides gets you a B.

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23 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said:

And now we'll get to see his "three feet over the receivers head" catch rate. 

That's catchable. Reach your arms up and jump for it.

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C

 

 I actually think the price reflects his value in terms of production. I know that Vikes stated they didn't want to give him away but I feel like they were running out of options so they will feel like it was the right price but maybe the Bills could have got him cheap. Of course they would have had to wait for that and I see the wisdom in filling a need now.

   The curve ball here is if Diggs turns into a prima Donna and immediately starts demanding a new contract. Then it goes from wow Raiders got a steal for AB to man the Steelers fleeced Mayock. Some people are saying it was a Cousins issue not a contract issue. We will see. So really my grade reflects my lack of faith that he's just going to play happily under this contract.

 

  I do think the sweet spot for the big 3 is 10-15 and the Bills couldn't get there. The next wave are top of the second value for me-Mims Jefferson Higgins and the Bills would only have been able to get them at value if they traded back or forwards which is never guaranteed. I do see why they made this deal.

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I don't understand the A grades.  It's pretty much universally thought that Hopkins is better than Diggs.  If we had gotten Hopkins instead of Diggs, how do you grade that trade?  It'd be off the charts.  

 

A is reserved for the best outcomes.  This wasn't the best outcome.  

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2 minutes ago, Kemp said:

No more excuses for Josh. It's all laid out for him in his 3rd season. Play like a top-tier QB or bye-bye.

easy its year 3 yes take the next step but he's 23 he doesn't need to be top tier

it would be great but realistic is not top tier its improving being consistent not missing easy throws and making more plays which not throwing to street free agents, practice player grabs and other assorted pieces certainly helped him last year. This is the next piece but be Mahomes or your out isn't logical, realistic or in any way what McBeane will expect. They have brought him along about as perfect as you can don't fall down the hill being impatient keep climbing he's going to be great he'll be 24 this season so will Joe Borrow.

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48 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

For now C-   Naw I'll change it to a B

 

they traded nearly half of the 9 picks  

Round 1: 22nd overall

Round 2: 54th overall

Round 3: 86th overall

Round 4: 128th overall

Round 5: 155th overall (from CLE)

Round 5: 167th overall

Round 6: 188th overall (from CLE)

Round 6: 201st overall

Round 6: 207th overall (from BAL through NE)

 

a 7th from Minny?

 

 

On the surface that seems like a lot, until you really look at what the Bills gave up. They gave up their 1st and "change" for Diggs. Yes, an extra 5th and 6th round pick I consider "change" as I do next year's 4th. Of course even change adds up. But 5th and 6th round draft picks go back and forth between teams all the time in trades.  If Beane REALLY wants that 5th or 6th back, how hard to you think it will be to recover it? One trade down  a couple slots in the 3rd recovers the 5th. He'll replace those picks in a heartbeat, if he really needs them.

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51 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

For now C-   Naw I'll change it to a B

 

they traded nearly half of the 9 picks  

Round 1: 22nd overall

Round 2: 54th overall

Round 3: 86th overall

Round 4: 128th overall

Round 5: 155th overall (from CLE)

Round 5: 167th overall

Round 6: 188th overall (from CLE)

Round 6: 201st overall

Round 6: 207th overall (from BAL through NE)

 

a 7th from Minny?

They traded three picks, have their previous six, and pick up one (a 7th) from Minnesota.  I think the 7th is going to be a trade sweetener for Beane to move up to grab some particular player he likes.  At the end of the process I think the Bills will end up drafting 5 or 6 players, which is about all this roster has room for.

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B+
 

Im never a fan of trading away 1st round picks. I do like Diggs a great deal though. He’s what this offense needs. 
 

Hopefully he waits a year before he continues his quibbling for a new deal; and hopefully it’s based off of a career year. 
 

My biggest concern is him complaining to Allen or worse, the media, about balls coming his way. That’s what did him in in Minny and I’d hate for their to be any issues in the locker room. 
 

All that being said, he’s a great talent, he plays hard every snap, and he fights for every ball. That’s the kind of thing that will endear him to fans and teammates. 
 

Go Bills!

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59 minutes ago, Mc1320 said:

We had 9 picks in the draft heading into last night....there is no way we were drafting 9 players this year that were going to make the roster out of camp. 

 

Plus you are going to have a disrupted OTA schedule that will hurt the development of a rookie WR you could take with #22.  Right price at the right time for a proven receiver that consistently get separation. 

To me it's less the issue of grading out 9 picks through camp (which I'd support), but rather getting a WR who can contribute this year without rookie stumbles.  Agree strongly with you that interruptions (CV19) in onboarding and training rookie talent skew decision making towards a trade like this.  

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8 minutes ago, CardinalScotts said:

easy its year 3 yes take the next step but he's 23 he doesn't need to be top tier

it would be great but realistic is not top tier its improving being consistent not missing easy throws and making more plays which not throwing to street free agents, practice player grabs and other assorted pieces certainly helped him last year. This is the next piece but be Mahomes or your out isn't logical, realistic or in any way what McBeane will expect. They have brought him along about as perfect as you can don't fall down the hill being impatient keep climbing he's going to be great he'll be 24 this season so will Joe Borrow.

 

If he's still missing receivers, he's never going to amount to a franchise-type guy.

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13 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said:

With the 22nd pick in the 2020 NFL draft the Bills select Stefon Diggs.

 

Thats an A grade.   

 

  No if you guarantee his production from the past two years it's an A. Even then if he's talking smack and being a cancer it's going to detract from the strong culture developed. Not an insurmountable problem, and that's probably how. McB see it but that would still bring it down to a B. He could underwhelm or not find chemistry with JA. That would be a C/D  Or he could refuse to play that would be an F 

 

 I hope I am wrong. This would make me very happy.

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13 minutes ago, Capco said:

I don't understand the A grades.  It's pretty much universally thought that Hopkins is better than Diggs.  If we had gotten Hopkins instead of Diggs, how do you grade that trade?  It'd be off the charts.  

 

A is reserved for the best outcomes.  This wasn't the best outcome.  

Pretty apparent Hopkins wasn’t available to AFC teams , or he’d be on one right now. Not on an AZ team that isn’t an immediate SB contender for what appears to be low compensation for the quality of player. As for the Bills trade, we don’t know the outcome. The compensation was fair for a 26 year old WR1. Since we can’t really grade until we know the result, I’m grading now on making the move required to immediately give the 3rd year QB a top target and bring the passing offense into the 21st century. For that, I give an A. We can’t deal in “ I’d like the best WR in the league for X” as that’s not reality. 

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I give it a C+

I like the player

I like the contract

I think the compensation was too steep

I worry about the diva attitude that comes w/ Diggs

 

If the Bills rip up his deal and give him a new fat deal, I'd grade the trade closer to a D.

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Given the context of the teams current health, owner/GM/Coach wise,  division outlook, and the draft picks used, and draft picks still available, it was a really good move by the Bills. Grade = A
 

Go Bills!!!

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Many Bills fans are clearly having trouble adapting to the current state of the franchise. These fans have spent so long in the wilderness that they can't stop hording draft picks. This is not the 2000 Bills, or the 2010 Bills.  These are the 2020 Bills.  This is FINALLY a playoff team. Tom Brady may be gone by tomorrow morning. The Bills are ready to make the next move. They need to add some key pieces, but they are no longer rebuilding, or changing coaches, or still looking for a starting QB.  Let's go!

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To give this less than a B means you just don’t get it. I gave it an A. 
Pick 22 is a wide receiver. Diggs is better than Ruggs right now.  No way Ruggs was making it to 22. 
The 5th and 6th round picks given up were procured from trades for Teller and Bodine. Players who were expendable because Beane signed good FA olineman last year. 
The fourth in 2021 is so far off, it’s an afterthought. 
 

Home run. Diggs is exactly what Josh needs. 

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Awful trade.  Diggs is a good player, not a great one.  The Bills gave up way too much to get another guy who is basically a slightly juiced up John Brown.  Giving up a first was awful, the package is worth the 18th pick overall, I’m not at all impressed, looks like Beane got locked in and lost another trade.

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I gave it an A.

- 26 years old

- Four more years of team control
- Contract is a really great value for a #1 receiver
- Gives Bills top-5 receiving corps

- Sure thing, as opposed to HOPING a rookie pans out
- Is already very good, doesn't need to learn how to play in NFL for 2-3 seasons
- Best route runner in the NFL
- Top five contested catch receiver
- Legitimate deep threat
- Fits PERFECTLY with Allen's strengths and weaknesses
- Won't preclude the Bills from drafting another WR early this year

I thought about giving it a B instead, because the Bills DID give up a lot of picks. But if you look at it as a 1st, 2021 4th, Wyatt Teller and Russ Bodine for Stefon Diggs and a 7th, it looks quite fair. Bills still get to pick in rounds 5 and 6, still have a slate of seven draft picks, and in my opinion, will still draft a young WR early.
 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Awful trade.  Diggs is a good player, not a great one.  The Bills gave up way too much to get another guy who is basically a slightly juiced up John Brown.  Giving up a first was awful, the package is worth the 18th pick overall, I’m not at all impressed, looks like Beane got locked in and lost another trade.

Is this true? Not the first part of the post. That part sucks. But the second part of the post - the part that says the assets given up for Diggs equal moving up to the 18th pick. If that is true, then this pick was fabulous. 
 

Why? Because most mock drafts would require a move up to 15 to get Ruggs, the third best receiver in this year’s draft. After Ruggs, the talent level - while still high - drops off to a “Less Than Diggs” level. 
 

so it comes down to this: With Ruggs costing us more to get than us getting Diggs, is Ruggs better than Diggs? Maybe. Probably not. One thing for sure is that Ruggs won’t be better than Diggs right out of the box because the NFL is hard. 
 

Is Diggs as good as Diggs? Yes. Because Stefon Diggs is Diggs. 

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