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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28815686/bengals-plan-franchise-tag-receiver-aj-green-sources-tell-espn
 

This should be interesting.  I personally believe his injury last season was BS and he was just done with the team.   So, a part of me likes him having to be tied to them a little longer since he didn’t honor his last year.  
 

On the flip side, I see a massive hold out and nothing positive come of this for the Bengals

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I just don't get it for the Bengals.

This guy was a good soldier for the Bengals for years. He's 31 years old and the team is clearly in rebuilding mode. Why not reward him by freeing him to pursue a team that is in the hunt for a championship? 

Not only that, but once the "rebuilding" writing was on the wall, they could have traded him and actually reaped some value. Going into next season, instead of a 31 year old AJ Green, they could have, say a 2nd round pick in a stacked WR draft.

I just don't get it. Can't imagine Green's happy about it, either.

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3 minutes ago, Virgil said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28815686/bengals-plan-franchise-tag-receiver-aj-green-sources-tell-espn
 

This should be interesting.  I personally believe his injury last season was BS and he was just done with the team.   So, a part of me likes him having to be tied to them a little longer since he didn’t honor his last year.  
 

On the flip side, I see a massive hold out and nothing positive come of this for the Bengals

So much for that outside chance the Bills might land him, not that there was much of a chance of it actually happening.

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6 minutes ago, Virgil said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28815686/bengals-plan-franchise-tag-receiver-aj-green-sources-tell-espn
 

This should be interesting.  I personally believe his injury last season was BS and he was just done with the team.   


What makes you think that? I always viewed Green as a stand-up guy and good teammate.  Never really heard him complain about being in Cincy too, though maybe I am wrong.

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They should have traded him for picks, with the 3rd rounder they would have gotten for him this year, the WR they could draft would be better then him in 2 years anyways and the cheapskate owner would have saved money

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9 minutes ago, Logic said:

I just don't get it for the Bengals.

This guy was a good soldier for the Bengals for years. He's 31 years old and the team is clearly in rebuilding mode. Why not reward him by freeing him to pursue a team that is in the hunt for a championship? 

Not only that, but once the "rebuilding" writing was on the wall, they could have traded him and actually reaped some value. Going into next season, instead of a 31 year old AJ Green, they could have, say a 2nd round pick in a stacked WR draft.

I just don't get it. Can't imagine Green's happy about it, either.

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Could be they are trying to trade him still now that he's tagged.  But still leaves Green with Leverage as he can refuse to go to a team that wants him, though likely any team that goes after him would be a playoff caliper team so good change he'd be OK with it.  He can also sign the tag and kind of handcuff the Bengels as then he has $18mil committed to him.  Or they could wait until May or so and rescind the tag which would tend to hang out Green to dry as by then teams don't have as much money left to afford him.

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11 minutes ago, Logic said:

I just don't get it for the Bengals.

This guy was a good soldier for the Bengals for years. He's 31 years old and the team is clearly in rebuilding mode. Why not reward him by freeing him to pursue a team that is in the hunt for a championship? 

Not only that, but once the "rebuilding" writing was on the wall, they could have traded him and actually reaped some value. Going into next season, instead of a 31 year old AJ Green, they could have, say a 2nd round pick in a stacked WR draft.

I just don't get it. Can't imagine Green's happy about it, either.

They might not view themselves as rebuilding. They went 0-8 in one score games last year and Burrow is capable of stepping in and being good from Day 1.

 

And obviously they want to put Burrow in a situation to succeed, so having AJ Green helps in that regard (assuming he stays healthy which obviously isn't a given).

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9 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

$18.5M to franchise tag a WR this season.  Fully guaranteed.  Wow.  

 

It’s the Bengally thing to do.

 

Do they hope to trade him for more than the comp pic they would get? No wonder they don’t have fans. 

 

AJ feels his hammy getting tight as we speak.....

 

 

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10 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

$18.5M to franchise tag a WR this season.  Fully guaranteed.  Wow.  

 

For a guy who has played 1 game in Cincy's last 24 games. 1 catch for 7 yards in the last season and a half. By the time the season opener comes around it will be almost 2 years since he had a meaningful game.

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Sign the deal. Take their money. Handicap their salary cap situation... it's ridiculous he's being tagged... spite or stupidity.

 

It's the perfect revenge for A.J. Green. Nobody is going to sweat him "being injured" throughout the season outside of Bengals fans. Screw Brown!

 

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1 minute ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

Sign the deal. Take their money. Handicap their salary cap situation... it's ridiculous he's being tagged... spite or stupidity.

 

It's the perfect revenge for A.J. Green. Nobody is going to sweat him "being injured" throughout the season outside of Bengals fans. Screw Brown!

 

If the reports are to be believed, he wants to be in Cinci and wants to iron out a long-term deal with them.

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42 minutes ago, Virgil said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28815686/bengals-plan-franchise-tag-receiver-aj-green-sources-tell-espn
 

This should be interesting.  I personally believe his injury last season was BS and he was just done with the team.   So, a part of me likes him having to be tied to them a little longer since he didn’t honor his last year.  
 

On the flip side, I see a massive hold out and nothing positive come of this for the Bengals

Uh, most teams in the NFL don’t let all their quality recievers walk out the door when they bring in a young QB who needs to learn. You must have LOVED the Jordan Matthews Andre Holmes era for Josh. 

40 minutes ago, Logic said:

I just don't get it for the Bengals.

This guy was a good soldier for the Bengals for years. He's 31 years old and the team is clearly in rebuilding mode. Why not reward him by freeing him to pursue a team that is in the hunt for a championship? 

Not only that, but once the "rebuilding" writing was on the wall, they could have traded him and actually reaped some value. Going into next season, instead of a 31 year old AJ Green, they could have, say a 2nd round pick in a stacked WR draft.

I just don't get it. Can't imagine Green's happy about it, either.

See above.

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Franchise tag doesn’t mean much. 
They are either signing him long term or trading him still. I don’t think there’s a chance he plays that year out on the tag and possibly has no market next season. Financially he has to be paid this year or he loses a ton of money next year. And if he’s injured this season again his market will be almost nothing. 

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I say its a huge smoke screen, the Bengals are attempting to raise trade value which is no more then a 3rd.

 

The Bengals are a rebuilding team and you don't lay out 18 mill to a 32 yr old WR that sat out the entire 2019 season

 

Makes no sense at all...

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3 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I say its a huge smoke screen, the Bengals are attempting to raise trade value which is no more then a 3rd.

 

The Bengals are a rebuilding team and you don't lay out 18 mill to a 32 yr old WR that sat out the entire 2019 season

 

Makes no sense at all...

It could be a smoke screen, but keeping him makes a lot of sense.

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Tag and trade.  Mike Brown is too cheap to pay him and wants to get something / anything for him.   

 

I'd offer a mid-round pick and see if he bites, although I'm not sure Green has much left in the tank...

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1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said:

They should have traded him for picks, with the 3rd rounder they would have gotten for him this year, the WR they could draft would be better then him in 2 years anyways and the cheapskate owner would have saved money

I was hopeing the Bills wouldn't give up anything more than a 4th and only give him 3 years. Too much a risk for long term

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3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

This is what the Bills need to do more. They need to weaponize the tag. I have advocated tagging J. Phillips to have some control of the situation. 

Phillips would likely sign the tag immediately. AJ will not.

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31 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

Uh, most teams in the NFL don’t let all their quality recievers walk out the door when they bring in a young QB who needs to learn. You must have LOVED the Jordan Matthews Andre Holmes era for Josh. 

See above.


Right. 

Except if you actually READ what I posted above, it stated that I felt it would be more prudent to TRADE AJ Green, not let him walk out the door. This way, they could bring in a blue chip WR prospect from this stacked draft class to grow alongside Burrow, instead of hanging on in vein to a 31-year-old receiver coming off of a foot injury who possibly doesn't want to be there any more.

Trading Green wouldn't leave the cupboard bare, either. Tyler Boyd is a 1,000 yard receiver, and recent 1st rounder John Ross had 500 yards in 8 games before getting injured last year. 

But please continue to condescend to everyone.

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15 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Tag and trade.  Mike Brown is too cheap to pay him and wants to get something / anything for him.   

 

I'd offer a mid-round pick and see if he bites, although I'm not sure Green has much left in the tank...


Mike Brown is the reason that AJ Green isn’t a Bill.

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1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said:

Not surprised.  AJ Green is a good security blanket for a rookie QB.  They'll keep AJ for a year then get rid of him.

I can see Green sitting out if he's tagged. It's basically a one year "prove you're healthy" deal for a guy who has nothing to prove as a 7x PB'er. Plus, he'll be one year older which hurts his chances when he's a FA in landing a beneficial final contract. Beane should offer a 3rd, maybe a 2nd if he passes a physical convincingly.

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18 minutes ago, Logic said:


Right. 

Except if you actually READ what I posted above, it stated that I felt it would be more prudent to TRADE AJ Green, not let him walk out the door. This way, they could bring in a blue chip WR prospect from this stacked draft class to grow alongside Burrow, instead of hanging on in vein to a 31-year-old receiver coming off of a foot injury who possibly doesn't want to be there any more.

Trading Green wouldn't leave the cupboard bare, either. Tyler Boyd is a 1,000 yard receiver, and recent 1st rounder John Ross had 500 yards in 8 games before getting injured last year. 

But please continue to condescend to everyone.

A blue chip prospect with a 2nd round pick? Hell, why are we so concerned about getting a good WR at 22 if there are blue chips in the second? What’s your definition of a blue chip prospect? A guy who is going to be drafted?

 

Tyler Boyd and John Ross aren’t AJ Green, but you knew that already. Jordan Matthews had about 1000 yards too, once upon a time.

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30 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Tag and trade.  Mike Brown is too cheap to pay him and wants to get something / anything for him.   

 

I'd offer a mid-round pick and see if he bites, although I'm not sure Green has much left in the tank...

He’s not a tag and trade candidate with a one year, $18.5M fully guaranteed contract.  That’s negative trade value.  I think House is probably right.  They’re probably just trying to spark the trade market and get something - anything - for him.  

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7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Who else is going to pay an aging injured (or dogging it) WR 18 million a year?

 

I wouldn't go quite that high but I'd gladly give him a 2 year - 30-32 mil deal.  WR is the most difficult position to fill in the NFL past QB, IMO.  I think older short term players are the answer with our cap situation.  It gives us an opportunity to fill some voids without long term commitments and draft their replacements now.  I think that's how the great organizations do it.  

 

 

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2 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

I wouldn't go quite that high but I'd gladly give him a 2 year - 30-32 mil deal.  WR is the most difficult position to fill in the NFL past QB, IMO.  I think older short term players are the answer with our cap situation.  It gives us an opportunity to fill some voids without long term commitments and draft their replacements now.  I think that's how the great organizations do it.  

 

 

 

What great organization is going to pony up 32 million to get a few games out of Green for 2 years?

 

Pass.  

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I hope Green makes it known that he will not play under the tag and that they need to trade him if they won't pay him.

 

He's the perfect fit for this team if he's past the injuries, which I imagine so since he basically sat out to preserve his health.

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Well so much for getting him here to Buffalo lol. Honestly though we need to get younger and faster  at that position, Green is getting old and his age is showing by the number of injuries he’s already sustained. AJ green 3-4 years ago I would’ve said for sure go get him. I’d hate for us to get him only to end up being disappointed.

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