Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Rivers threw 20 picks in 16 games last year. Tyrod has 20 interceptions in 70 career games. They have a good WR group but need work on their line. No doubt he is a placeholder for Tua or Herbert who they will draft at #6. But if they improve the o-line TT will win 8 or 9 games next year in a division with Las Vegas and Denver. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I always liked TT. I just think he hit his ceiling in Buffalo with what he had to work with. I hope he does well if he gets the opportunity . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: But if they improve the o-line TT will win 8 or 9 games next year in a division with Las Vegas and Denver. he couldn’t win a game with a plus 5 turnover ratio last season. there’s no possible reason to think he would win 8-9 games on a team that just stunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Rivers threw 20 picks in 16 games last year. Tyrod has 20 interceptions in 70 career games. They have a good WR group but need work on their line. No doubt he is a placeholder for Tua or Herbert who they will draft at #6. But if they improve the o-line TT will win 8 or 9 games next year in a division with Las Vegas and Denver. Come on man. You make some wild predictions but this one takes the cake. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Is it time to go buy some Tyrod Taylor rookie cards? Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Needle said: This is not a fair assessment IMO. He wasnt a dumb player and your recollection is inaccurate. Short on some arm talent and vision sure but not stupid. I thought he was just slow processing everything. Tentative Taylor was his nickname on the old BBMB and was spot on. I agree though, not a dumb guy by any means , the game just never slowed down enough for him. I'd be interested in seeing him used way more like Lamar. Even tho Taylor had Roman , he wasn't using Taylors feet as a weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Smoke, meet screen. They are taking a QB in the top of the 1st and if TT is the starter it will go just like it did for him in Cleveland. I thought you were talking about John Brown at first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, ColeB said: Tough to live down lining up behind the left guard for a snap. I literally fell out of my chair when that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 This shouldn’t even be newsworthy much less a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Smoke, meet screen. They are taking a QB in the top of the 1st and if TT is the starter it will go just like it did for him in Cleveland. I’m sure the other 31 GM’s are now utterly convinced that the Chargers aren’t taking a QB. These antics are so tiresome and fool nobody. Why even bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Come on man. You make some wild predictions but this one takes the cake. 4th place schedule, 10th easiest strength of schedule, 9 of their 11 losses were by 7 points or less with a QB that threw 1.25 INT/game They need several pieces to improve but I think they will win at least 8 games next year. Edited February 14, 2020 by Ethan in Portland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I thought he was just slow processing everything. Tentative Taylor was his nickname on the old BBMB and was spot on. I agree though, not a dumb guy by any means , the game just never slowed down enough for him. I'd be interested in seeing him used way more like Lamar. Even tho Taylor had Roman , he wasn't using Taylors feet as a weapon Roman and TT had NFL #1 rushing attack in 2015, and TT had 568 yards rushing and 5.5YPA . TT made the ProBowl (after the top 4 or 5 guys dropped out I thinkt) but was never anywhere close to what Lamar Jackson was this past year (1000+ yards and almost 7 YPA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 This just proves that Anthony Lynn was a poor coach and I am SO GLAD we let him go elsewhere.... dodged that thankfully!!!!! Starting Tyrod again? What a maroon. ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I thought TT did the best he could with the pieces we had at the time. Below average OL, WRs and TEs, and he still did enough to get to playoffs. Cool character too. I wish him well. He did the best HE could, yes. But that is cos HE is not very good. At the moment I, like most, have Justin Herbert pencilled in to the Chargers at #6. But I do think Jalen Hurts is a really interesting option later in the draft here too. If Anthony Lynn did really pick up any of Greg Roman's offense from running it for a season in Buffalo I could see a Baltimore-lite approach. Hurts is behind where Jackson was coming out still but it could be an alternative to spending a top 10 pick on a QB who isn't really worthy of that spot. 3 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Rivers threw 20 picks in 16 games last year. Tyrod has 20 interceptions in 70 career games. They have a good WR group but need work on their line. No doubt he is a placeholder for Tua or Herbert who they will draft at #6. But if they improve the o-line TT will win 8 or 9 games next year in a division with Las Vegas and Denver. I more think Denver are the team primed to take a step. Fangio always produces at least decent defenses and if what Lock produced at the end of the season can be maintained in the longer term with one of the best young receivers in the game and one of the best young TEs..... well.... Denver could find itself in 9 or 10 win territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 That is too funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: You just did? Agreed. Spelling in these threads too often resembles Gump’s box of chocolates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Go Tyrod. Go Fitz. Nothing but love from me for those QBs. They played well in Buffalo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Needle said: This is not a fair assessment IMO. He wasnt a dumb player and your recollection is inaccurate. Short on some arm talent and vision sure but not stupid. Nothing to do with intelligence, he seems perfectly bright to me. His game was just all about reacting (slowly) to the play as it happens. There was no strategy to his game. Rarely picked on a weak cornerback or tested a flaw in the defense. Maddening refusal to throw past the sticks on key third downs. Let the playclock run down and out too often. Just overall bad at situational football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 He won't throw the ball... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: 4th place schedule, 10th easiest strength of schedule, 9 of their 11 losses were by 7 points or less with a QB that threw 1.25 INT/game They need several pieces to improve but I think they will win at least 8 games next year. So you say they need several pieces to improve...but Taylor is the main ingredient? INT’s were the main thing issue? So why wasn’t Taylor named starter immediately then? He’s regressed every year since 2015. He was benched after 4 weeks in Cleveland because he was so bad when he had a talented offensive roster. Just an FYI....you were only off by about 900 yards with your LeSean McCoy vs Gore/Singletary yards prediction....and Singletary missed 6 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, HOUSE said: He won't throw the ball... ...you forgot about 6 yd post patterns............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: TT made the ProBowl (after the top 4 or 5 guys dropped out I think) If the above statement isn’t a T-shirt crying to be made, I don’t know what is...? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I thought TT did the best he could with the pieces we had at the time. Below average OL, WRs and TEs, and he still did enough to get to playoffs. Cool character too. I wish him well. Agreed. Not going to get you to the SB, but exciting player and seemed like a good guy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Agreed. Not going to get you to the SB, but exciting player and seemed like a good guy as well. For sure. He was a good soldier who just wasn't quite good enough at his position. Borderline NFL starter, great backup because he won't lose you games. He just won't win them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He did the best HE could, yes. But that is cos HE is not very good. At the moment I, like most, have Justin Herbert pencilled in to the Chargers at #6. But I do think Jalen Hurts is a really interesting option later in the draft here too. If Anthony Lynn did really pick up any of Greg Roman's offense from running it for a season in Buffalo I could see a Baltimore-lite approach. Hurts is behind where Jackson was coming out still but it could be an alternative to spending a top 10 pick on a QB who isn't really worthy of that spot. I more think Denver are the team primed to take a step. Fangio always produces at least decent defenses and if what Lock produced at the end of the season can be maintained in the longer term with one of the best young receivers in the game and one of the best young TEs..... well.... Denver could find itself in 9 or 10 win territory. I could see Denver making a leap too. But I'm not sold on any of their skill position players on offense and I really liked Noah Fant in 2019 draft. Agree Lock looked like he was on the right path but it will be wait and see just as it was with Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: So you say they need several pieces to improve...but Taylor is the main ingredient? INT’s were the main thing issue? So why wasn’t Taylor named starter immediately then? He’s regressed every year since 2015. He was benched after 4 weeks in Cleveland because he was so bad when he had a talented offensive roster. Just an FYI....you were only off by about 900 yards with your LeSean McCoy vs Gore/Singletary yards prediction....and Singletary missed 6 games. When is the QB not the main ingredient? I'm in no way suggesting TT is the future in San Diego. Hell he could get beat out by the rookie they draft. But if he stays as error free as he has been in the past, he gives the Chargers a shot to be competitive for a WC spot late into the season. As for my RB prediction I was way off in yards but correct in which player would have a better year. McCoy posted 4.6 YPC which is a full 1 YPC more than Gore. Gore had 130 more yards but on 60+ more carries. Only he and Andy Reid know why he didn't get that many carries as the season wore on. Fumbles? Seems odd as he was never a chronic fumbler. Hope he gets a chance somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 56 yards.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 This shouldn’t come as a shock. Tyrod falls in that category of “placeholder” QB. He’s like Fitz in that sense. If the Chargers draft someone raw like Herbert or Love they may need someone to hold down the fort for a little while. Tyrod has a winning record in the league and won’t beat his team. He’s not going to win or lose you games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Yep they just publically parted ways with Rivers, so everyone knows they need a QB. They are trying to look not desperate even though they are desperate, so when they call about trading up they aren’t hosed. LAC GM: “We are fine! Everything is fine. We will just play Tuh-rod” *bursts into flames* I actually believe that Lynn is 1) comfortable with Tyrod's skillset and how to maximize it and 2) comfortable with a worst case of Tyrod plus the Vet QBs available in FA, and a shot at Trevor Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: This shouldn’t come as a shock. Tyrod falls in that category of “placeholder” QB. He’s like Fitz in that sense. If the Chargers draft someone raw like Herbert or Love they may need someone to hold down the fort for a little while. Tyrod has a winning record in the league and won’t beat his team. He’s not going to win or lose you games. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 not gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halloween Land Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 13 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I thought TT did the best he could with the pieces we had at the time. Below average OL, WRs and TEs, and he still did enough to get to playoffs. Cool character too. I wish him well. Really? Average roster? He had Sammy walkins, Robert woods, percey harvin, Charles clay, goodwin and Chris Hogan. He also had prime lesean McCoy and a solid offense line with Eric wood, Richie incognito, and a healthy Cordy Glenn. With all those weapons he couldn't get it done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 10 hours ago, MJS said: I thought you were talking about John Brown at first. Smoke Screens would be awesome - listen up Daboll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Halloween Land said: Really? Average roster? He had Sammy walkins, Robert woods, percey harvin, Charles clay, goodwin and Chris Hogan. He also had prime lesean McCoy and a solid offense line with Eric wood, Richie incognito, and a healthy Cordy Glenn. With all those weapons he couldn't get it done. Not in 2017, which is what he's referring to (the playoff season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 13 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I thought TT did the best he could with the pieces we had at the time. Below average OL, WRs and TEs, and he still did enough to get to playoffs. Cool character too. I wish him well. I wanted TT replaced and was very critical of him. But the hate he gets now is so laughable and predictable. He was from great but he was a good game manager and won more than he lost. He also got totally boned by this new regime when they forced him into a west coast offense, traded his best receiver away weeks before the opener, and replaced him with scrubs like Matthews and Benjamin because they were in love with one of the worst qbs ever. but they are mostly likely going to draft a guy hire and let him compete with Tyrod for the job. Kinda of a non story. 9 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: This just proves that Anthony Lynn was a poor coach and I am SO GLAD we let him go elsewhere.... dodged that thankfully!!!!! Starting Tyrod again? What a maroon. ?????? So he is a moron because of something that hasn’t happened yet? He also has a higher winning % than our coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 13 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: My biggest issue with TyTy was his utter lack of situational awareness. I’m convinced he never knew the down and distance, the score, or where the play and game clock were. Or who was snapping the ball ? My favorite thing about that was that he picked up the first on like 3rd and forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 57 minutes ago, Halloween Land said: Really? Average roster? He had Sammy walkins, Robert woods, percey harvin, Charles clay, goodwin and Chris Hogan. He also had prime lesean McCoy and a solid offense line with Eric wood, Richie incognito, and a healthy Cordy Glenn. With all those weapons he couldn't get it done. The roster didn't match the scheme on defense during his tenure here. In the years where we had the players you mention our O was top 10 in scoring, but our D was 27th and 24th. Now our D keeps us in games and we can't score consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I can think of no better QB to lead a team through the offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: The roster didn't match the scheme on defense during his tenure here. In the years where we had the players you mention our O was top 10 in scoring, but our D was 27th and 24th. Now our D keeps us in games and we can't score consistently. With our defensive minded HC... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Love this thread..............sometimes you just want to hear the classic tunes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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