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Who Is Your Least Favorite Bill of All Time ... and Why?


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From the the moment both were signed i hated Kevin Williams and Jim Jeffcoat, i really hate anything that relates to those Cowboys teams that beat us. Jeffcoat was an acceptable role player, that leave Williams as my less liked Bills player, he was everything i expect from him: a terrible third WR, and even worst as  punt returner

 

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3 hours ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Damn...forgot about Kiko.  He was completely overrated too.  In addition to being dumb as a box of rocks, he had maybe 5-6 good games to start his career, and was pretty scrubby thereafter.  But for some reason, he was thought of as being good.

Preach brother. He was just ridiculous. I was into him but not irreplaceable. He was Just Another Guy who fans annointed 

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4 hours ago, BigBillsFan said:

Maybin and it's not close. 2nd was Whitner. I never liked the 1st round busts who acted like they were kings without a crown.

 

I will say - after maybin went to the jets and rex talked him up i began to hate him.  I think his career ended when he flew around the end and got de-cleated by fred jackson and thrown aside like a little kid.  

 

I guess he's like a teacher and artist in baltimore now.  So I can say it seems like he's a good person.  

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12 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

I will say - after maybin went to the jets and rex talked him up i began to hate him.  I think his career ended when he flew around the end and got de-cleated by fred jackson and thrown aside like a little kid.  

 

I guess he's like a teacher and artist in baltimore now.  So I can say it seems like he's a good person.  

its started for me when he decided to holdout for more money before his rookie season and then came into the season at 220 soaking wet and unable to even make the active roster.

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12 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

But...his time as a Bills QB wasn't personal, I liked him a lot as a person, but hated seeing him as our starting QB because I always knew we would still suck, but not enough to get a good draft pick, and people here were going spew nonsense to spin him into something he wasn't. 

 

This was almost exactly how I felt about Tyrod. Although I think "hated" is stronger than my feelings were.

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3 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

its started for me when he decided to holdout for more money before his rookie season and then came into the season at 220 soaking wet and unable to even make the active roster.

 

I never blame players for taking advice given to them by an agent who kinda... negotiates with teams for a living.  

 

Not eating/working out was on him.  Its one of the main reasons he failed.  Guy was an athlete but i don't think he really liked football much.  Pure speed rusher with no counters.

 

Seems like McD and Beane tend to value the football more than the 40 time and the bench press reps, which i appreciate.  

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First: Kelvin Benjamin. Guy had all the physical tools and was a legit #1 at one point and refused to do any work to even stay in shape.  How could you throw away $20M plus in career earnings by not even going to the gym.  
 

Second: Croom.  Makes mistakes all the time which are totally unforgivable because his ceiling is so low.  Knox drops are easier to take with the ceiling factor. 
 

Third: Jeff Wright and Mark Kelso. Not that they were horrible players, just that a pro bowler in one of these slots would have brought home a Lombardi. 

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20 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

First: Kelvin Benjamin. Guy had all the physical tools and was a legit #1 at one point and refused to do any work to even stay in shape.  How could you throw away $20M plus in career earnings by not even going to the gym.  
 

Second: Croom.  Makes mistakes all the time which are totally unforgivable because his ceiling is so low.  Knox drops are easier to take with the ceiling factor. 
 

Third: Jeff Wright and Mark Kelso. Not that they were horrible players, just that a pro bowler in one of these slots would have brought home a Lombardi. 

 

Benjamin was pretty bad in year 2.  He came to camp like 260 - not even remotely in shape.  So bad that they just flat out cut him midseason.  

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I honestly never think in these terms. There are players I really like and others less so, but even if I think a player is bad, I don't put him in a "least favorite" category.  I think this kind of question fosters a form of brooding dislike that is unhealthy and sometimes unkind. I would never hate on a truly decent fella like Scott Norwood, for instance, who quite evidently took it very hard. Guy was clutch, but did not have a strong leg and never hit from that distance on grass. Bills partied hard and Belichick had an answer for an offense that was overconfident after smashing the Raiders 51 - 3. We were the better team and got outcoached and outplayed. It never should have come down to asking a player to do something exceptional given his particular skillset.

 

But if you're going to hate, at least be amusing about it. Gugny's good at it after a lifetime of honing his craft.

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15 hours ago, bbb said:

 

It seemed to me that Royal did that a lot.

 

Leodis - he did the one you mentioned - and then did the exact same thing vs. the Pats on a another Monday night game in 2015 

 

17 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep. Against KC in 2014. We finished 9-7 and missed the playoffs but would have been 10-6 had McKelvin not set them up in scoring range with a punt return fumble. 

 

 

My brain must have suppressed those memories or I was too inebriated to remember. 

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1 hour ago, Dr. Who said:

I honestly never think in these terms. There are players I really like and others less so, but even if I think a player is bad, I don't put him in a "least favorite" category.  I think this kind of question fosters a form of brooding dislike that is unhealthy and sometimes unkind. I would never hate on a truly decent fella like Scott Norwood, for instance, who quite evidently took it very hard. Guy was clutch, but did not have a strong leg and never hit from that distance on grass. Bills partied hard and Belichick had an answer for an offense that was overconfident after smashing the Raiders 51 - 3. We were the better team and got outcoached and outplayed. It never should have come down to asking a player to do something exceptional given his particular skillset.

 

But if you're going to hate, at least be amusing about it. Gugny's good at it after a lifetime of honing his craft.

 

it was Juice Era

a small slough of despond

some Knox/Cribbs years,

a huge slough of despond, best forgotten

Kelly Era

another slough of despond, best forgotten

Josh Era

 

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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

This was almost exactly how I felt about Tyrod. Although I think "hated" is stronger than my feelings were.


Yeah he was nearly as divisive as Fitz was.  Although, to be fair, TT was better here than Fitz was.  Not much better, but at least made playoffs and didn’t give him a contract that made us stuck with him.

 

That was the best part of how they handled Tyrod, we paid him but did so in a way where we could get rid of him at any point if he didn’t take the necessary steps forward.  Handling TTs contract was one of the few things that Whaley did right as opposed to that utterly stupid contract the old guard gave Fitz.   
 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Buffalo Streaker said:

His mom lived in Daytona Beach. A mutual friend told her I was a Bills fan. I was invited over to her house when Lonnie was in town. She had me help move furniture with him. True story.


How many times did he drop the furniture? ?

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23 hours ago, dwight in philly said:

Didnt read thru all , but just based on performance and not extraneous stuff.. Donald Wilson.. stunk.. (Lonnie Johnson close second)

 

i had a Rob Johnson cheap jersey, when asked i said it was really Lonnie, guess Rob was the better choice after all

 

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17 hours ago, LB48 said:

Booker Moore!!!  1st Round RB pick in 1981 after the Bills made the play-offs in '80.  Played 51 games in 4 seasons in the NFL - all with Bills -and gained 420 total yards.  TOTAL BUST!!

You being sarcastic?

 

Two guys I always hated for their play..did not hate the person

 

Leonard Smith

Kurt Shulz

 

Felt both were just trying to be Easley or Lott with big hits, but just flat out missed way to many easy plays looking for knockout hits. Neither would prolly make the league with today's rules

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Place kicker Booth Lusteg.

 

Took on his brother's identity when applying for a spot in Buffalo to replace an injured Pete Gogolak, so he became (on paper) four years younger and a Boston College graduate. 

Was a 50% FG kicker in 1966.

Missed a gimme field goal against San Diego, so the game ended a tie.

Fans waited for him outside the Rockpile and kicked his ass after that game!

 

I was at that game, but not one of the thugs. :P

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On ‎1‎/‎30‎/‎2020 at 8:09 AM, Canadian Bills Fan said:

 

 

Oh man I forgot about Jason Peters!!!!

 

 

ok its a tie for him and Whitner

Peters was great. He was one of the best players in the history of the franchise and they wouldn't pay him. I truly did enjoy watching him play!!!

 

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19 minutes ago, rockpile said:

Place kicker Booth Lusteg.

 

Took on his brother's identity when applying for a spot in Buffalo to replace an injured Pete Gogolak, so he became (on paper) four years younger and a Boston College graduate. 

Was a 50% FG kicker in 1966.

Missed a gimme field goal against San Diego, so the game ended a tie.

Fans waited for him outside the Rockpile and kicked his ass after that game!

 

I was at that game, but not one of the thugs. :P

 

Nick Mike-Mayer was attacked on his front lawn by an angry fan after his biffed FG blew the point spread.

 

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On 1/30/2020 at 9:23 AM, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yeah, RJ killed it that day.  10-22, 131 yards, 64.8 rating, 1 safety, and 1 lost fumble.  He really did his job.  Contrast that with that loser Flutie.  21-36, 360 yards, 1 td, 1 int, 90 rating.  
 

RJ is a cupcake.  And as someone who has a family friend who knows him well, all he did was talk about how much he hated Buffalo and how miserable he was.  He sucked. 

I was excited when we hired him.  I have never been more wrong.  He destroyed one of the best defenses in the NFL.  But I love seeing his bloated self on TV talking about how he shut down Brady.  He is so delusional.

You forgot's Flutie fumble at the end of the game!!

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On 1/30/2020 at 1:05 AM, Reader said:

I think it has to be Kiko. Some players were bright spots at some points in their career like Dareus. Some didn't force the Bills to pay them more like Kelsay. Kiko on the other hand might/has been responsible for players injuries that might have shortened their future health/lifespans.

I loved Kiko in Buffalo. THE KIKO MONSTER was strong. FOOTBALLS!!!NOM NOM NOM NOM.

 

Kiko Alonso once punched a horse in the chin. Now we have giraffes.

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I always like to support our guys, but when they treat a fan like crap it is unforgivable. So, my least favorite Bills player was Jim Haslett. He was such a condescending prick and was always disrespectful to the fans in public. When you'd get him and Isaiah Robertson together they were unapproachable. That's too bad for fans who put these guys on pedestals.

 

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The player I disliked wasn’t because he underproduced, Bryce Paup, he was just a nasty person, he was at a signing, I was 16, he didn’t talk to anyone, he just signed whatever you put in front of him and were expected to shuffle off.  He wouldn’t take pictures with anyone, sign and go...  after the hour he promised, he left with somewhere between 5-10 people still in line. On the flip side, Ted Washington signed everyone’s and took pictures with everyone who asked, he was fun and playful, he asked your name and made sure to address you by it.  This was the same event so the contrast was very noticeable.

I met a lot of players at that time through signings, every player was nice, but one.  Maybe it was a bad day?  Maybe...but I’ve heard the same from others.

 

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On 1/29/2020 at 11:12 PM, Kirby Jackson said:

Yeah, he had some issues for sure. He was the most cooperative and genuine dude on the team IMO. It was highs and lows but from being around there he was probably my favorite. They had some good guys and then some idiots. That’s probably true of every team though.

  I thought of Lynch as an idiot myself since you brought that up, and while he was here Fred Jackson was a way better running back IMO. I didn't care for Donte Whitner as well.

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On 1/29/2020 at 10:56 PM, Gugny said:

 

"Doug" won ten games like Tyrod got us to the playoffs and like Dilfer won a Super Bowl.

 

Doug didn't win *****.

Did flutie hit on your girl friend or something? You got an unhealthy emotion working there buddy ?

maybe you shouldn’t hold back, just let out all that hate and tell us how you really feel... ?

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On 1/30/2020 at 12:51 AM, Buftex said:

Jaurons squads may not have been the very worst, but they were the most miserable to watch. I hated the "Jauron era".

THIS!!!

I didn’t get the Sunday ticket in his last season and just didn’t watch. I hate that he made me do that ?

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2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

You being sarcastic?

 

Two guys I always hated for their play..did not hate the person

 

Leonard Smith

Kurt Shulz

 

Felt both were just trying to be Easley or Lott with big hits, but just flat out missed way to many easy plays looking for knockout hits. Neither would prolly make the league with today's rules

              Smith is one of mine.  You forgot to mention that half of his big hits were to players that were out of bounds.  Nothing like that 15 yarder after a big defensive stop.

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It’s a running joke w my friends.. RON BROOKS

 

if memory serves, during the Rex years, team was penalized what felt like every play, especially stupid penalties and on top of that, stupid special teams penalties. The team/Rex made a big deal about cleaning it up, wanting to be more disciplined blah blah blah ???. The next Sunday, Bills kick off, Brooks makes a tackle and stands over the guy taunting him, gets flagged.

 

I legitimately went off the reservation

 

These are better days

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6 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:


Yeah he was nearly as divisive as Fitz was.  Although, to be fair, TT was better here than Fitz was.  Not much better, but at least made playoffs and didn’t give him a contract that made us stuck with him.

 

That was the best part of how they handled Tyrod, we paid him but did so in a way where we could get rid of him at any point if he didn’t take the necessary steps forward.  Handling TTs contract was one of the few things that Whaley did right as opposed to that utterly stupid contract the old guard gave Fitz.   

 

 

So I agree Tyrod's contract was handled better. I don't agree HE was better. He just benefited from a better defense. 

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