Bakin Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) I don’t mind the shot downfield. double coverage, yes... but Allen gave his WR a chance to get the ball. Problem is ... why in the ever loving piss would it be DiMarco down there? I’m not a Daboll hater - I believe this team needs to continue to add by adding...not subtracting...and I give Daboll another year for sure. He has to do a better job. And putting DiMarco downfield when you had the smarts to activate Duke....???? I just don’t get it. Edited January 5, 2020 by Bakin 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 It was a broken play that was extended due to no pressure. Dimarco was down there because the ball should have been out of Allen's hand quickly. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 There's a lot that just doesn't make sense from a coaching standpoint on the offensive side of the ball. One of my big issues though is there are people that only mention Daboll about this. McDermott's the Head Coach. Ultimately, this falls on him. The overarching philosophy, the choice for OC, and gameday preparation and management is all part of the Head Coach position. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 This is too important not to put in the post game thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I'm guessing the All 22 will show that DiMarco was in to block, then went out to the flat as a safety valve, then just kept going downfield as Allen had a ridiculous amount of time to throw. But DiMarco needs to come back to the QB hard when Allen is stuck, and Allen needs to know it's DiMarco there and not, say, Knox. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Horrible decision to throw that but for F*** sakes DiMarco almost had it, he just jumped way too early. No athleticism at all. Dimarco is also gone next year. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said: It was a broken play that was extended due to no pressure. Dimarco was down there because the ball should have been out of Allen's hand quickly. Yeah. I'm guessing it was a wheel route that got extended based on the way the play transpired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, wppete said: Horrible decision to throw that but for F*** sakes DiMarco almost had it, he just jumped way too early. No athleticism at all. Dimarco is also gone next year. Yep, he mistimed his jump, TJ Graham-style. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, wppete said: Horrible decision to throw that but for F*** sakes DiMarco almost had it, he just jumped way too early. No athleticism at all. Dimarco is also gone next year. I don't know why he was on the team this year....Lee Smith, Tyler Kroft both should be gone too. Kroft had 6 catches in 11 games. WTF is he on the team? I would start Sweeny over Kroft. The big question is WHY was DiMarco even on the field during a critical time in the game? The only way I see that is if your other RB's are injured and they weren't. Edited January 5, 2020 by Azucho98 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 They will go heavy and then split DiMarco out occasionally. He’s pretty much useless. I noticed the Texans didn’t even put a guy out near him. not a good idea to throw to him 50 yards down the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I'm guessing the All 22 will show that DiMarco was in to block, then went out to the flat as a safety valve, then just kept going downfield as Allen had a ridiculous amount of time to throw. But DiMarco needs to come back to the QB hard when Allen is stuck, and Allen needs to know it's DiMarco there and not, say, Knox. hell, our FB pulled 2 defenders 30 yards out of the play- a win until we throw it at him if He pancaked two guys we’d celebrate him Edited January 5, 2020 by NoSaint 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, NoSaint said: hell, our FB pulled 2 defenders 30 yards out of the play- a win until we throw it at him You have a point. With 2 guys covering DiMarco, somebody somewhere who can actually catch the ball was wide open .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 On that play Lee Smith was also way downfield with DiMarco. What play call has these two speedsters running 40 yd routes? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Texans dropped 9 guys on that play It was a weird play all around How about next year no DiMarco!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: You have a point. With 2 guys covering DiMarco, somebody somewhere who can actually catch the ball was wide open .... Replay from the endzone clearly showed no one else was open. It basically was a punt on 2nd down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said: On that play Lee Smith was also way downfield with DiMarco. What play call has these two speedsters running 40 yd routes? That's great ... I didn't see that. Seems like Lee Smith got plenty of snaps today. DiMarco was about as useless as a player can be this year. Lee Smith did his job, but that job was limited. 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: Replay from the endzone clearly showed no one else was open. It basically was a punt on 2nd down. A punt can be intercepted? A punt on second down? Edited January 5, 2020 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Has #42 caught anything longer than fifteen yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Helpmenow said: Has #42 caught anything FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 He should've had it, he jumped way too early and was already coming down when the ball arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, wppete said: Horrible decision to throw that but for F*** sakes DiMarco almost had it, he just jumped way too early. No athleticism at all. Dimarco is also gone next year. Saw that on the replay, he did jump too early. I glossed him Breasts on a Bull, because he is totally freakin' useless. There have to be fullbacks in the league that can run, catch, block, AND MAKE PLAYS! The next play DiMarco makes will be the first. Edited January 5, 2020 by Freddie's Dead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I swear there was another play Dimarco was downfield as well. But whatever, he shouldn’t even be out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, TH3 said: This is too important not to put in the post game thread? This wasn't the only time a deep pass has been targeted to DiMarco this year. It's truly something that should never happen more than once and even that is one too many times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 That throw to DeMarco wasn't the only time he ran a "go" during the game. It just happened to stand out when Allen made the throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 He had position on the defenders. Should have caught it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I swear there was another play Dimarco was downfield as well. But whatever, he shouldn’t even be out there. Yeah, I noticed that too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 funny part is if he 4 more inches on his vertical, he probably catches it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I thought the defender slipped or something. When he released it it looked like Dimarco got behind him. It came out high giving the safety an opportunity to get over and the defender eventually caught up to Dimarco. Ball was still well placed and Dimarco had the best shot of getting even though he completely whiffed on the time to start his jump..... There was no one else open though, can’t blame him for trying to make a play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Should have been caught. Had position... just a missed timed jump. I think Allen just sort of figured if he catches it great, if he gets interfered with great, an incompletion is no big deal. And if its intercepted its not that nich different then a punt. So it made it worth the risk to potentially get PI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 10 hours ago, DRA3196 said: That throw to DeMarco wasn't the only time he ran a "go" during the game. It just happened to stand out when Allen made the throw. Kyle Shanahan did that a few times with him in Atlanta as well. Maybe DiMarco is a secret vertical weapon and we've just never seen it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 hours ago, wppete said: Horrible decision to throw that but for F*** sakes DiMarco almost had it, he just jumped way too early. No athleticism at all. Dimarco is also gone next year. I agree that he jumped too early but not that it was a bad throw. It was exactly on the money. Those kinds of drops and non-catches have plagued Allen all year, contributing to the "Allen isn't accurate" trope. Smurf receivers with bad hands backed up by practice squad players, that's what Allen has had all year. Is it any wonder he tries to do too much? Who else is going to make a play for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The ball I don’t think was designed to go to DiMarco. Allen wasn’t looking his way until the very last moment. DiMarco was split out wide to take the safety with him. The play was going to someone else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Bakin said: I don’t mind the shot downfield. double coverage, yes... but Allen gave his WR a chance to get the ball. Problem is ... why in the ever loving piss would it be DiMarco down there? I’m not a Daboll hater - I believe this team needs to continue to add by adding...not subtracting...and I give Daboll another year for sure. He has to do a better job. And putting DiMarco downfield when you had the smarts to activate Duke....???? I just don’t get it. the thing i want to know is... and this is not the first time it has happened... why do our guys seem to jump too early to high point the ball on these 50/50 tosses down the field? i have noticed it several times by different receivers. something in the way Josh throws the ball that makes it hard to judge it or just not enough coaching or.... what? Edited January 5, 2020 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: The ball I don’t think was designed to go to DiMarco. Allen wasn’t looking his way until the very last moment. DiMarco was split out wide to take the safety with him. The play was going to someone else... He didn’t have many options; they dropped a ton of guys into coverage. Here’s the deal which makes some folks takes infuriating. People talk about letting your guys try to make plays. Allen let DiMarco try to make a play. DiMarco had inside position, Allen put it on the money, and if DiMarco times his jump better it’s a big play. But people go one and on about how Allen made a bad play there? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Clearly a FB who excels in catching balls 50 yards downfield is at the top of our offseason wish list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 9:23 AM, Blokestradamus said: Kyle Shanahan did that a few times with him in Atlanta as well. Maybe DiMarco is a secret vertical weapon and we've just never seen it. was he actually thrown too? I hope we never see it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 6:34 AM, finn said: I agree that he jumped too early but not that it was a bad throw. It was exactly on the money. Those kinds of drops and non-catches have plagued Allen all year, contributing to the "Allen isn't accurate" trope. Smurf receivers with bad hands backed up by practice squad players, that's what Allen has had all year. Is it any wonder he tries to do too much? Who else is going to make a play for him? It was a TERRIBLE throw and I am a huge Josh fan. He literally missed it by ten yards. From the endzone view, when Josh looked and threw, DiMarco was two yards past his one defender. It was way, way short. DiMarco had to completely stop, wait, and then jump. If Josh threw it well it could have been a TD, except he probably would have been caught from behind but maybe not. But when the ball was released he was open. That said, he did time the jump bad, and he probably should have caught it. But he's not at all a good receiver despite some claims and his 52 catches in 8 seasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: It was a TERRIBLE throw and I am a huge Josh fan. He literally missed it by ten yards. From the endzone view, when Josh looked and threw, DiMarco was two yards past his one defender. It was way, way short. DiMarco had to completely stop, wait, and then jump. If Josh threw it well it could have been a TD, except he probably would have been caught from behind but maybe not. But when the ball was released he was open. That said, he did time the jump bad, and he probably should have caught it. But he's not at all a good receiver despite some claims and his 52 catches in 8 seasons. not the player you want out there in that situation.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/4/2020 at 7:13 PM, Bakin said: I don’t mind the shot downfield. double coverage, yes... but Allen gave his WR a chance to get the ball. Problem is ... why in the ever loving piss would it be DiMarco down there? I’m not a Daboll hater - I believe this team needs to continue to add by adding...not subtracting...and I give Daboll another year for sure. He has to do a better job. And putting DiMarco downfield when you had the smarts to activate Duke....???? I just don’t get it. Duke or Knox should have gotten that ball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: not the player you want out there in that situation.... It's ridiculous. And even the logic is stupid IMO. They think, and have said publicly, and a bunch of people applauded the idea, that they put him out there, and the defense has to adjust by putting in an extra linebacker to compensate. SO WHAT?! Then they split him out and is easily covered and never makes a play. How about keeping him on the bench and have an extra WR out there against an extra CB but who can actually make a play! The Lee Smith/DiMarco offense especially late and in OT was shocking, and stupid, to me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/4/2020 at 5:20 PM, LSHMEAB said: Yeah. I'm guessing it was a wheel route that got extended based on the way the play transpired. No. He was lined up outside and ran a go from the jump- And in case you're wondering about play design, consider the deep post here is being run by none other than Lee Smith 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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