PolishPrince Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, fishgrappler said: McDemott Daboll O-lineman allowing 3 man pressures to beat them in key situations within half a second*** fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Yeh the oline was a big factor today my goodness it seemed like after halftime the Texans where practically in the Bills huddle every other play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, ColeB said: Yeah, how did neither Josh or Morse recognize that nobody was there to block him? Also, empty backfield again. Yep. I didn't notice it but the late show guys pointed out that Dion didn't block anyone on the back to back sacks in the 4th. Pre-snap bs not straightened out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, fishgrappler said: McDemott Daboll Allen Allen? The guy who had 372 total yards out of our 425 and was our leading passer, rusher & caught our only TD? I know he made a couple bad plays, but that's the guy you want to pin it on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 How come the defense giving up 19 points in the final 16:33 isn't on your list? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, fishgrappler said: McDemott Daboll Allen Man the countless deep balls to Dimarco Ughhh...smh Edited January 5, 2020 by Scorp83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 if you have to choose just one McDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: How come the defense giving up 19 points in the final 16:33 isn't on your list? Because as much as that was a debacle, the offense not scoring in the 2nd half other than a FG is a bigger issue. This offense is a problem, it was a problem all year...but we were winning games. The fact that they played against an awful defense & couldn't put up no more than 19pts is a serious issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Scorp83 said: Because as much as that was a debacle, the offense not scoring in the 2nd half other than a FG is a bigger issue. Ultimately the Texans should score a pair of tds, and I don’t care if it’s the 3rd and 4th quarter or 2nd and 4th. They held a good offense to under league average points even through an extra quarter. the guys in defense weren’t perfect by any means but we are talking an above average day from a defense vs the offense not scoring a TD after the first drive and having a historic dumpster fire at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Allen’s fumble started the avalanche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, fishgrappler said: McDemott Daboll Allen Is there an "everyone" option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Nobody played especially bad nobody played particularly well if I had to blame somebody it’s probably Daboll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Love the fans blaming the QB who had 372 yards of offense and your only touchdown. Give me a break. The blind side call was horrible and defensive tackling was atrocious again. Go and find some play makers. #17 had a ton of heart tonight. You’re probably the same guy who wanted to burn Yeldon at the stake for a preseason fumble, yet somehow it’s ok if Allen is a fumbling machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Coaching Defense Allen Daboll Refs McD Ford Milano Pick one Just now, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: You’re probably the same guy who wanted to burn Yeldon at the stake for a preseason fumble, yet somehow it’s ok if Allen is a fumbling machine They scored 6 points in the second half and OT. Allen has a careless fumble. He made some crazy throws that should’ve been pick 6’s. He was overhyped. Did some things good, others bad. He’s just as responsible as anyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, fishgrappler said: McDemott Daboll Allen My list exactly, and in that order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Kroft’s holding call played a big part. I pray to god we’ve seen the last of him! Praying is what cost us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Several causes for this loss but mainly it's on the Defense. It's the no. 3 defense; we're up 16 points at the half & we let them score 19 straight points. As for the defense, it wasn't the play-calling, it was guys getting out hustled. Under McDermott's watch we are getting closer to being a good football team -- we can play with the big guys but we don't have the personnel to beat them consistently. We need a better O line, bigger, faster WR's and a stud DT. I'm pleased with Allen's growth this year. His footwork & accuracy are much improved as is his football sense. That said, he needs to have better ball security. I hope Daboll doesn't leave. He calls a good game. Plus Allen doesn't need to have to adjust to another OC. On to a bigger & better next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I find it hard to pin this on any one player in particular. Allen's fumble was huge but TBH he played pretty well overall in his first playoff game. So I think for him it evens out. Our defense had 7 sacks and held a great offense in check for large parts of the game. They also blew some huge plays. The OT missed tackles were completely inexcusable yet the turnover on downs for the Texans late in the game should have been their redemption. The Bills had the ball in a position to WIN this game in regulation and there is one man who messed it up, Daboll!! I thought Daboll called a great game for parts of it but when he really needed to get the job done he failed miserably to be daring and was completely predictable. If Daboll calls some better plays from the 29 yard line we could have won the game right there. If Daboll calls some better plays in OT we drive down and win that game. If anyone is responsible more than anyone else. It is Daboll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkx2 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: No it was #60 - Morse. It was both. He ran right in between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Milano has missed a ton of tackle the last 3 or 4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Duke has to make that catch. 17-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 In all seriousness, what happened to the Fat O in the 4q and beyond? Wow. They just stopped blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: Because as much as that was a debacle, the offense not scoring in the 2nd half other than a FG is a bigger issue. This offense is a problem, it was a problem all year...but we were winning games. The fact that they played against an awful defense & couldn't put up no more than 19pts is a serious issue. Yup. You can't rely on your defense to be great ALL THE TIME. Look at the niners defense against NO game a month or so ago back when they gave up 46 points and still won. Need to upgrade RT (move Ford to guard), complimentary RB, and are in desperate need of a true #1 WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: No argument here and in this order. Josh as he usually does made spectacular plays and dumbass plays. Hope this kid gets smarter? McDermott has no clue how to manage time. First half with 1:08 on the 30 and 1st down with 2 timeouts. Clappy completely butchered that 1:08. And the #1 reason we lost is both Brian & Sean decided 16 pts was all they needed. We've seen this movie ALL YEAR. Go Conservative Go Home Agreed. We were screaming at the TV to run a play, and they had no desire to try to score a TD. To me, the opposite of "fearless." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Nobody played especially bad nobody played particularly well if I had to blame somebody it’s probably Daboll I can't even blame Daboll too much, Josh is not a finish product & he's not calling plays that will put him in a bad spot. So his play calling is very limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The great thing about football is that it truly is the ultimate team sport, You can blame Allen, McDermott, Daboll, the Defense, Special Teams and the list goes on but the true answer would be all of them. If we only made more plays on defense, if our special teams would have scored or got us in better position to kick the OT winner, if Allen would have thrown for 20 more yards in OT we could have won, if Daboll didn't hold back his play calling in the 2nd half. All phases of our team should have played better and we didn't want it more than the Texans on this day but there will be a scapegoat or a few of them for this and we'll find out soon enough, there always is imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Scorp83 said: Because as much as that was a debacle, the offense not scoring in the 2nd half other than a FG is a bigger issue. This offense is a problem, it was a problem all year...but we were winning games. The fact that they played against an awful defense & couldn't put up no more than 19pts is a serious issue. They need better players on offense for sure, but this one is mostly on the coaches and their unwillingness to close the door on HOU. 1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Allen’s fumble started the avalanche That’s an excuse for poor play that followed. It was about 25 yards of field position different from a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I cost the Bills the game when I ordered pizza and wings from a different place. NEVER AGAIN!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: I cost the Bills the game when I ordered pizza and wings from a different place. NEVER AGAIN!! On that note, I cost the Bills the game soon as I told my friends "Tre Day is making Nuke have a bad day at the office" at halftime. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The shorter answer is Who Didn’t cost us the game? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) I just re watched the highlights. The inability to be aggressive and score touchdowns in the 3rd quarter especially when you have a team on the ropes is absolutely inexcusable. Buffalo had countless chances to put this game out of reach and just let them hang around. The over conservative nature of mcdermott when Buffalo has a lead is of huge concern and has been all year. Edited January 5, 2020 by The Firebaugh Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 14 hours ago, fishgrappler said: McDemott Daboll Allen Refs Milano Tre Frazier Siran Neal Duke Cody Ford Everyone chipped in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 14 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Kroft’s holding call played a big part. I pray to god we’ve seen the last of him! That was brutal but he should not have been in that match up. RB should have chipped in. He was was looking for someone to block. 14 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: The shorter answer is Who Didn’t cost us the game? Reid Ferguson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 14 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Love the fans blaming the QB who had 372 yards of offense and your only touchdown. Give me a break. The blind side call was horrible and defensive tackling was atrocious again. Go and find some play makers. #17 had a ton of heart tonight. Or maybe, if you’re only TD is on a gimmicky play where your QB ended up catching a pass rather than throwing it, your QB didn’t have a great day chucking the football around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgrappler Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 14 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Love the fans blaming the QB who had 372 yards of offense and your only touchdown. Give me a break. The blind side call was horrible and defensive tackling was atrocious again. Go and find some play makers. #17 had a ton of heart tonight. Agreed.... he just does some wacky sh..t sometimes. The coaching in the second half is inexcusable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Little bit of everything today. Coaching to the players. Even a little refereeing. There is no one singular thing that cost them the game. There usually isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Pretty much everybody except Singletary shares some responsibility for this one. I'm sure there's probably somebody on the defense who played a complete game and I'm just overlooking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The lack of good execution on O and D in the 2nd Half along with suspect play calling. That is what cost us the game. But I am okay with the season overall, very many people never thought we would have a winning record this season, Oh, and the patsies lost so I’m happy there. ??? Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 A few critical mistakes by coaches and players alike. But if you are going to put a team together emphasizing defense then the defense cannot give up 19 straight points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 If you want the truth, read any other team's message board. Every fan without a dog in the fight can see the obvious, and that is that Allen was not just bad. He was a clown out there. He fumbled once by just straight dropping the ball. Very nearby fumbled again a split second after his knee touched, threw two consecutive passes that should have been intercepted for touchdowns, threw a ridiculous jump ball to a freaking fullback in double coverage, had another interception dropped by a DB, made the most ridiculous lateral I've ever seen, and took an intentional grounding penalty that ultimately cost the game. Yeah he made his typical 3-4 spectacular plays that only a few QBs in the league can make, but he simply can't be counted on not to crap the bed. If Houston had been able to capitalize on half of his terrible mistakes, this game would have been a blowout. You can live with the gunslinger mentality with a guy who lights up a scoreboard, but Josh doesn't do that. What's more is that his dumb mistakes aren't even the result of him being aggressive and trusting his arm to hit tight windows. They're just stupid. Fall in love with the flash plays at your own risk. Ultimately there's a reason his numbers stunk in high school, junior college, college, and now the NFL. He looks the part. He talks the part. He just doesn't play the part. Every other fan base recognizes it. Here's what fans of the Chiefs thought about it the game that would help determine their next opponent. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=327756&page=69 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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