Royale with Cheese Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 His career with KC has been a disappointment. He's making good money, they just extended Hill and will have other big contracts coming up. They also need to put some money towards the defense. They are projected to be 25th in salary cap room next year. Watkins looks like he may not make it to 2020 with the Chiefs and will be a FA. Here's an interesting sub topic conversation in this thread....is Sammy Watkins a bust? Since he left Buffalo, his numbers have declined. In the last 3 years, he's averaging about 40 catches a year, 550 yards receiving and 5 TD catches. He was the #4 overall pick, played in the two most high powered passing offenses.... https://kckingdom.com/2019/10/23/kc-chiefs-salary-cap-crunch-lead-tough-decisions-offseason/ The most obvious opportunity to create cap space is the oft injured receiver Sammy Watkins. His contract calls for him to have a $21 million cap number with $7 million guaranteed, so a release will generate for the Chiefs $14 million in cap space. Considering the number of games Watkins has missed since he arrived in Kansas City for the 2018 season, it’s hard to imagine, under any circumstance him returning after the 2019 season concludes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Ummmm…...no. 13 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Why, yes, I’d take him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Maybe....depends on the options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Absolutely not. Unimpressed by Watkins and his ability to stay on the field or make a difference. Pure conjecture here but I don’t think he loves football. It’s just what he does. Most people with that just collecting a paycheck attitude don’t fair well. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 No. He's just not a cultural fit. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I don't think McDermott wants Watkins anywhere near the Bills. I think that McDermott got one whiff of Watkins and his "I'm a four dimensional lizard god and we're all a homogenous field of vibrating energy" schtick and said "Nooooope" and promptly traded him away. As just a player? Sure. But I don't think his personality/mindset fits what Buffalo's got going on right now. 3 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Veteran minimum on a 1 year “ prove it” deal 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) I want nothing to do with the guy. All the talent in the world, however I think his greatest downfall is he appears to care more about being a superstar than the work it takes to get there. I dont get the sense he has the type of fortitude it takes to be great. On the other question, yes he is 100% a bust. He was taken 4th overall, has had 1 1000 yard season, never eclipsed 70 catches or had double digit touchdowns. If the Chiefs part with him in the offseason he will be on his 4th team in 7 seasons. Edited December 3, 2019 by thenorthremembers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I would but the PROCESS won’t. They traded him for a reason ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The Whaley Whiff that keeps on giving.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 He doesn't fit the Process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thronethinker Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 No, not because he's bad but because he's always hobbled . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Nope, always hurt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 no sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: Absolutely not. Unimpressed by Watkins and his ability to stay on the field or make a difference. Pure conjecture here but I don’t think he loves football. It’s just what he does. Most people with that just collecting a paycheck attitude don’t fair well. That ship sailed already. There is no way that we can count on Watkins to stay on the field and contribute. If the Bills go wr, you can bet he will not be another inury risk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 he's just not dependable enough for the money he makes. even with a reasonable salary i'm not sure he can be counted on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 From a football standpoint, yes. But it's a moot point because this regime has already made it clear he's not part of what they're trying to build. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 He’s never put a full season together. If he can’t light it up with Mahomes in that offense or with the Rams, something is just plain missing. All the talent and potential in the world, just doesn’t translate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I think the Bills got rid of him because he wasn't a cultural fit and I doubt that has changed. The Bills are probably only going to entertain getting guys like Beasly and Brown that fit some profile/formula only Beane and McDermott know and are 100% on board with team first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Probably one of the worst first round picks for the Bills , gave up a future day 1 pick and left better receivers on the board. Edited December 3, 2019 by Mopreme 7 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Never. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: His career with KC has been a disappointment. His career, period, has been a disappointment. Extraordinary talent that never manifested in his play in the NFL. Pass 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, metzelaars_lives said: From a football standpoint, yes. But it's a moot point because this regime has already made it clear he's not part of what they're trying to build. Yeah! ha!..he is not coming back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Veteran minimum on a 1 year “ prove it” deal He's already proved it. We've moved on. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 UGh! Man, we gotta stop this mediocre mentality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Lupus in both legs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 that's the equivalent of how Sammy's body goes through a season 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, KGun12TD said: UGh! Man, we gotta stop this mediocre mentality. Do you think it's possible to have an entire team above mediocre? He's not a #1, probably not even a #2 at this point....he would be a #3 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 No, unless he agreed to a Percy Harvin contract. He's an injured mess. I can't see him rebooting his career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 .....the TBD collegiate ball experts say the WR Class is the "best in years"......if OBD didn't gamble on his 5th year due to potentially suspect health, why would you now take a chance four years later versus draft?.....he has yet to have >600 yds in a season since leaving.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 You want the NFL’s version of ‘Fragile Frankie Merman’? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 On the cheap 1 yr and sell him on the team’s successful anti-injury training program which appears to be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 No, Sammy ship dun sailed down the Erie Canal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: His career with KC has been a disappointment. He's making good money, they just extended Hill and will have other big contracts coming up. They also need to put some money towards the defense. They are projected to be 25th in salary cap room next year. Watkins looks like he may not make it to 2020 with the Chiefs and will be a FA. Here's an interesting sub topic conversation in this thread....is Sammy Watkins a bust? Since he left Buffalo, his numbers have declined. In the last 3 years, he's averaging about 40 catches a year, 550 yards receiving and 5 TD catches. He was the #4 overall pick, played in the two most high powered passing offenses.... https://kckingdom.com/2019/10/23/kc-chiefs-salary-cap-crunch-lead-tough-decisions-offseason/ The most obvious opportunity to create cap space is the oft injured receiver Sammy Watkins. His contract calls for him to have a $21 million cap number with $7 million guaranteed, so a release will generate for the Chiefs $14 million in cap space. Considering the number of games Watkins has missed since he arrived in Kansas City for the 2018 season, it’s hard to imagine, under any circumstance him returning after the 2019 season concludes. I think the first sentence says it ALL Royale Robert Woods is still in LA because he played better than Sammy and at his price tag ... so ... Hell to the No!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 As a decoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Nope but I'd consider Larry Fitzgerald in a Frank Gore/LorAx role. Guy who can lead and also play for us semi-regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, stevewin said: As a decoy Decoy for what? The rest of the fourth dimensional lizard aliens hiding from the Galactic Patrol? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 LOL @ KC paying this guy $16m a year. You really can fool some of the people all of the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I just don't think he fits here. If he is targeted like a #1 then he puts up #1 WR type numbers, as he did in Buffalo when targeted as such and that was discussed many times over. He burned that bridge with McDermott quickly and I just can't see us bringing him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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