John Gianelli Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) On ESPN radio just now, Freddie Coleman chose as his top 5 black quarterbacks 1) Doug Williams 2) Steve McNair 3) James Harris 4) Michael Vick 5) Marlin Briscoe Harris played quarterback for the Bills. Briscoe was a wide receiver with the Bills, but he did attempt 3 passes. I'm surprised he didn't have Russell Wilson or Randall Cunningham in his top 5. Edited November 23, 2019 by John Gianelli clarified it was ESPN radio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RufusTheMad Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Warren Moon? 16 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiva Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Strange topic... 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) Why create or emphasize that divide? They are all QB’s, and some are better than others. . Edited November 23, 2019 by Augie 6 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Doug Williams is #1? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) There has to be some criteria that the OP missed. There are too many better QBs than Harris and Briscoe. 3 of them have already been mentioned and there are several playing now better than those 2. My guess is they are the top 5 who were told before the draft to change positions if they wanted to play in the NFL, although I don't think Vick was ever told that. Edited November 23, 2019 by Albany,n.y. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, John Gianelli said: On ESPN radio just now, Freddie Coleman chose as his top 5 black quarterbacks 1) Doug Williams 2) Steve McNair 3) James Harris 4) Michael Vick 5) Marlin Briscoe Harris played quarterback for the Bills. Briscoe was a wide receiver with the Bills, but he did attempt 3 passes. I'm surprised he didn't have Russell Wilson or Randall Cunningham in his top 5. Doug Williams ?? LOL Warren Moon was better than all those guys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 There has to be some other qualifiers because that lis is disappointing if it’s supposed to be a “best” group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 This list is wack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 How about the top 10 white rbs? Would Tim Tindale crack that list? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, RufusTheMad said: Warren Moon? Warren Moon arguably threw the prettiest spiral of all time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Lol what is this crap? Whatever a Freddie Coleman is, I'm pretty sure he wont have a job tomorrow if he did this list on ESPN's dime as noted. I'm as anti PC culture as anyone, but a qb is a qb. I dont see race factoring into my judgment of how good or bad a qubby is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, NC Book said: How about the top 10 white rbs? Would Tim Tindale crack that list? no but Jamie Mueller would Mike Alstott is my all time favorite player, just saying 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Lol what is this crap? Whatever a Freddie Coleman is, I'm pretty sure he wont have a job tomorrow if he did this list on ESPN's dime as noted. I'm as anti PC culture as anyone, but a qb is a qb. I dont see race factoring into my judgment of how good or bad a qubby is. He's black himself, so he'll be fine.............I like him. He goes from like 9-1 or so on espn radio. I actually find it to be an interesting topic. But, Warren Moon is in the HOF and none of those guys are. Brisco played like a few games at QB..............Something is amiss with that list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Donovan McNabb? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Augie said: Why create or emphasis that divide? They are all QB’s, and some are better than others. I really think this is divisive. Why say 1st black this or female that. I never understood the reason to emphasize it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 6 hours ago, RufusTheMad said: Warren Moon? Should be number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 No EJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: No EJ? Or JaMarcus Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) Odd idea but Moon, Cunningham, McNabb, and McNair?? Personally I think even Culpepper was better than DW next week is greatest Asian WRs ?♂️ Edited November 23, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Hap help ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Warren Moon Deshaun Watson Patrick Mahomes would be 3 of the 5 if we did this a decade down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, NC Book said: How about the top 10 white rbs? Would Tim Tindale crack that list? Mccaffrey May win hands down at this rate. Franco Harris tops my top Italian RB list. Edited November 23, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: no but Jamie Mueller would Mike Alstott is my all time favorite player, just saying Alstott was a beast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 It can't be "best". It has to be "most historic" or "most significant". Briscoe played some QB for the Broncos before coming over to the Bills. Harris I believe was first starting black QB. Williams won a Super Bowl, etc. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) Warren Moon? Donovan McNabb? I mean Cam is better than half that list. In 5 years you'll be able to add Watson and Mahomes in all likelihood. Edited November 23, 2019 by thebandit27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Doug Williams is #1? I know. Doug Williams essentially played the quarter of his life in a Super Bowl and did nothing else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 That’s a very odd ranking by Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: It can't be "best". It has to be "most historic" or "most significant". Briscoe played some QB for the Broncos before coming over to the Bills. Harris I believe was first starting black QB. Williams won a Super Bowl, etc. This. And then the list makes sense. It is the list of quarterbacks who make Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes possible. There was a time, not very long ago, when the assumption was that African-Americans were great athletes and so could make great running backs and receivers, but they lacked the mental ability and leadership qualities to be quarterbacks. It took players like Harris and performances like Williams' in the Superbowl to start to change that attitude. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 That’s an absolutely atrocious list considering who who’s been left off of it. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 I like Freddie Coleman quite a bit. I find his show interesting normally and he isn’t the typical “overly negative to get a reaction” guy. With that being said his list is pretty terrible. Doug Williams was important but not great. Warren Moon and Russell Wilson have to be on the list. McNabb and Cunningham should have spots as well. Mahomes, Watson and Jackson resumes are too limited but they are trending that way. This would be mine: 1) Moon 2) Wilson 3) McNair 4) Cunningham 5) McNabb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 8 hours ago, John Gianelli said: On ESPN radio just now, Freddie Coleman chose as his top 5 black quarterbacks 1) Doug Williams 2) Steve McNair 3) James Harris 4) Michael Vick 5) Marlin Briscoe Harris played quarterback for the Bills. Briscoe was a wide receiver with the Bills, but he did attempt 3 passes. I'm surprised he didn't have Russell Wilson or Randall Cunningham in his top 5. Moon is a HOF and McNabb are better than those 5 Who listens to the hacks at ESPN anymore anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gianelli Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Kiva said: Strange topic... I'm not a regular listener and I don't know if Freddie Coleman does this all the time, but last night he was letting listeners call in with 15-second takes, with suggestions for topics. A caller suggested he list his top 5 black quarterbacks, so he did. Almost immediately someone told him he left off Warren Moon, but he stuck by his list. He did say something about the historical significance of the quarterbacks he named. I probably wouldn't have paid much attention, but when he mentioned James Harris and Marlin Briscoe, as an elder Bills fan those names brought back vivid memories. Edited November 23, 2019 by John Gianelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, John Gianelli said: On ESPN radio just now, Freddie Coleman chose as his top 5 black quarterbacks 1) Doug Williams 2) Steve McNair 3) James Harris 4) Michael Vick 5) Marlin Briscoe Harris played quarterback for the Bills. Briscoe was a wide receiver with the Bills, but he did attempt 3 passes. I'm surprised he didn't have Russell Wilson or Randall Cunningham in his top 5. Hows Moon & McNabb not on the list i never heard of two of those guys Edited November 23, 2019 by Bronxbomber21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 8 hours ago, NC Book said: How about the top 10 white rbs? Would Tim Tindale crack that list? The best running back in the league right now is white for what it’s worth?♂️. This list is certainly strange. First off there’s no point to it. We should be past stuff like this. And second, There’s no way a rational person made this list of the best and left off Moon and Russel Wilson. Must have been something we are missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Yea, even if his list had some other qualifier, like "most historically significant", it is hard not to have Warren Moon on that list -- and at the top. Remember, Moon had to play in Canada for several years because he was told by NFL executives/scouts that he did not have an "NFL arm". Yet, Moon had one of the finest arms -- and probably threw one of the prettiest passes -- in NFL history. You could argue that Moon -- more so than even Douq Williams -- played the greatest role in shattering stereotypes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 When do they publish their list of top 5 white quarterbacks? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 10 hours ago, John Gianelli said: I'm surprised he didn't have Russell Wilson or Randall Cunningham in his top 5. I'm surprised it's 2019 and we're still making separate lists for black athletes/people. Pathetic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I like Freddie Coleman quite a bit. I find his show interesting normally and he isn’t the typical “overly negative to get a reaction” guy. With that being said his list is pretty terrible. Doug Williams was important but not great. Warren Moon and Russell Wilson have to be on the list. McNabb and Cunningham should have spots as well. Mahomes, Watson and Jackson resumes are too limited but they are trending that way. This would be mine: 1) Moon 2) Wilson 3) McNair 4) Cunningham 5) McNabb There's the correct list. Although I would put McNabb at 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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