unclepete Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Success said: Um, well, I guess you have a point w/ the Ravens. We can beat the Pats, Steelers and Cowboys. Not that we'll win all of those, but it's not like the latter 2 are juggernauts, and the Pats will be competitive. Are you just penciling in a loss against every decent team? We can’t beat the Browns and barely made it out the jets and the phone games. We aren’t good enough to pencil in wins against bad teams at this point. Odds are we lose at least one of those and lose to the actual good teams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: BS; he's part to blame. But he did pass them down for the go ahead score and then drove them down for the tying FG. The defense let them marched down the field. The defense held them to 19 points... No part of this L is on them. To be a championship caliber football team, you have to be able to score more than 20 points against the Browns, or any other NFL defense for that matter. Josh left touchdowns on the field, that’s literally the difference in the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Offense looked like last year. Players didnt have any fire today while Cleveland was playing for its life. This team needs to develop a killer instinct. The lack of use with Singletary is baffling 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Broncos coming to town next, where the Bills tend play kinda bad. Could be staring 6-4 down the throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Starting to seriously question if Josh Allen can improve. Right now it just doesn’t seem so and this is exactly who he might be. And if what we are watching is what Allen “might be”. It isn’t good enough Certainly not the craziest comment we will read here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I actually think the bills played a good game on the road where they withstood the initial onslaught. They just don’t click enough on offense. Lots of plays that could have swung this game. Missed fgs. How about the terrible overthrow to McKenzie? He has to relax and hit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: It's reasonable to pencil in losses in games in which we will be underdogs, yes. By the same token, we should pencil in wins the next two games and against the Jets. That puts us at 9-7. I mean, that's not really the NFL. I don't think it's reasonable at all. The Bills could run the table for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, Chill said: We have the pieces, just need a coach and a qb... We have the pieces...except the 2 most important ones? Fantastic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dayman said: Plenty of room to win this easily if Josh was good at all, but he wasn't. Numbers don't much matter either. As it is, we still could have won if Hauschka makes it kicks..but we'll never have a good lead with Josh playing as he does he's just not a good QB. Kicker makes his FGs. WRs catch balls, and even, make good catches on balls. I hate how folks who really dont understand football always blame the QB when a team loses. Anyways., I think I'm gonna take a vacation from these boards... Edited November 10, 2019 by Paulus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 9 Isles Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 This team sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nitro said: DAboll called 13 running plays to the RBs. Cleveland was averaging giving up over 140 yards a game. That is an indictment on game planning and play calls. ....could this be indicative of his resume' showing one year stops except for Cleveland with Mangini?....wouldn't you retain the good ones?......I'm probably old school, senior moment fickle though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eanyills Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: As for everyone jumping off bridges cause we lost to an inferior team, take a look at the Chiefs and the Saints today. Who we are isn't defined by this loss.. It isn’t just one game. The Chiefs and Saints have proven consistently capable of being the better team against quality competition. The Bills haven’t. The Bills haven’t impressed, outside of the Patriots game, even in wins. The Bills played schedule doesn’t instill confidence in their victories. The QB play and run defense leaves a lot of concern. Its not just the game today. There’s a trend that analytics backs up and it’s not favorable to the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..FOURTEEN rushes (Josh excluded) has NO bearing...YAWN.......versus 29th rush defense....perfect sense.... He can't run the ball if he doesn't get the call. Haus was asked to kick 2 FG and he missed. I agree they didn't run singletary enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, Bronxbomber21 said: I would've stayed pushing the ball down the field thought the screen was a really good call. Ball got tipped otherwise that’s a big gain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, clayboy54 said: I have a killer instinct. I feel like killing half the posters in the GDT. Me too ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, The Wiz said: He can't run the ball if he doesn't get the call. Haus was asked to kick 2 FG and he missed. I agree they didn't run singletary enough. Daboll is a REAL problem. I wouldn't mind seeing him canned. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Frickin Lofton all game was questioning on 2nd and short, 3rd and short.... all game,, why are we not doing more to get guys open to convert. Thats on Daboll and his play calling and this whole entire scheme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tcali said: how could it be all about the O coordinator when JA isnt even close on hitting wide open receivers downfield?? That makes no sense Sooooo how many rushing attempts against the third worst rushing defense in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 i want my 3 hours back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmichii Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Garbage. This team is mediocre at best. Hauschka is done might as well start looking now. I don't know who sucks worse the bills or the sabres. bills o is garbage. d is garbage. I hope daboll moves on or gets fired. Another soul crushing loss. I wish I was born in Boston. You have 0 wins over anybody that has more than 2 wins. Plus you just lost to the browns. That is the definition of pathetic. Gonna follow that with a blowout loss to the dolphins. Typical buffalo. What can go wrong will go wrong times ten. Just so frustrated. They should of just moved both franchises what's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Wow! Just wow! I respect all the opinions and statements but this thread needs its title changed to “for irrational catastrophic thinking bills fans only“ it was a tough loss, it happens. And, would the majority of you rather not be 6-3. I think that’s a fair question 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, MDH said: Everybody doesn’t think they’re pretenders because of play calling, run D and the kicker. They think the QB isn’t good and can’t carry them when they need it. If you put Watson or Mahomes on this team everybody would have faith in the Bills. That's not what I said, I said the loss to the Browns today is why everyone thinks they are pretenders. Then I went on to list what lost them the game today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 McD, Daboll, JA, Haush, all deserve a lot of blame here. A defense that plays prevent ahead 4, no. An offense that can’t rack up rushing yards against CLE run D, terrible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: He needs to have 30 touches a game running and passing agree but he looked gassed on two straight carries and helped almost botch a handoff between he n Allen (also to blame) the next. Hope hes in better shape that that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronyAbounds Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Success said: Um, well, I guess you have a point w/ the Ravens. We can beat the Pats, Steelers and Cowboys. Not that we'll win all of those, but it's not like the latter 2 are juggernauts, and the Pats will be competitive. Are you just penciling in a loss against every decent team? Well, the Bills have only beaten truly rotten teams all year, so it only makes sense that they lose to any decent team. The defense is above average but the offense is atrocious, from the QB to the OL to the receivers. The coaching is suspect to say the least as well. The whole playoff narrative depended on the Bills' spectacularly weak schedule, and unfortunately most of the weak opponents are gone. The Bills have done nothing to indicate they can win either of those 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: @GunnerBill how'd your boy impact the game this week? He didn't play many snaps again. Was in on the 4th down goalline stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: We have the pieces...except the 2 most important ones? Fantastic. Josh may be salvageable if we make a change at OC fast. Dabs have ruined him almost to the point of no return. Edited November 10, 2019 by Chill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco14150 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Success said: I mean, this is textbook overreaction. A clinic. People post with their emotions, not always sober either. The the sun will still rise, hopefully? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeMaxB585 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 this stings. winning vs a team that still has talent on the road would earn us some respect. as of right now I know multiple other people fans of other teams and nobody respects us because we have wins vs all garbage teams and I dont blame them. this wouldve really been big. lucky we still have jets and dolphins left and other bad teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I would still rather be a Bills fan than a Browns far. I was worried that desperate would be dangerous. I like our plan, we just need to keep growing. Let the hater’s and “realists” have their rant for a while. We have progress to make, but a good future. I believe that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, par73 said: The end of that last drive was brutal. Where was the urgency to score-- or at least get closer? Did they really think that kicker was going to hit from 50+? That has been a consistent trait of McDermott's team. Poor in-game decision making, horrible penalty challenges, and atrocious clock management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Well we are what we are. A poor offensive team with a decent defense that struggles to get off the field and stop the run and a defensive back in Wallace who is a liability in single coverage. The defense did an amazing job in their goal line stands and I will not take that away from them. Hausch misses field goals so McD and Daboll cannot play the game like they can win by playing for field position and field goals. As much as I believe in consistency I still feel that Daboll game-plans and personnel selections are head-scratchers what is wrong with our screens - they get sniffed out all the time and Allen has to choose between throwing it in the dirt or into crowd of mixed jerseys. Why is Lee Smith on the field at all - how many holding penalties does it take to lose reps on this team ? Why is Duke not suited up when you need to be able to get Singletary out on the edge with space? We have proved nothing against talented teams and Kitchens called one of the worst games I have ever seen and the Bills coaching staff still were out-coached - embarrassing and they are going to need to hear the critique that something needs to change. Especially the offense as that game management at the end was abysmal. Daboll has taught Allen that they can spike the ball to stop the clock - right? And a huddle with the clock running - WTF, that's coaching, more specifically the failure of coaching. The Bills need to accept that they are not that good yet (sigh). Sky is not falling - that 24 yard pass at the end was the longest by Mayfield, but good teams and defenses do not give up that score at the end. We need another corner who can play man and be physical where I believe Wallace excels as a zone DB. Most of that drive, including the TD, was on Wallace. Edited November 10, 2019 by WideNine 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 We play one of the worse run Ds and decide not to run the ball?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Broncos coming to town next, where the Bills tend play kinda bad. Could be staring 6-4 down the throat. No sir, we go phinsland next week. Horses are the week after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertig0 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I watched about 40% of this game, what exactly am I missing in people blaming allne? Because it's the hot narrative here. Always. Defense gashed? Nope. Kicker missing a 34 yarder? Nope. In position to tie, another missed FG? Nope. Defense allowed 0. Special teams were immaculate. Entire loss is on #17. Duh. Not an Allen defender or supporter, but it's ridiculous in here. Edited November 10, 2019 by Vertig0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Broncos coming to town next, where the Bills tend play kinda bad. Could be staring 6-4 down the throat. Let's just beat Miami first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: The defense held them to 19 points... No part of this L is on them. To be a championship caliber football team, you have to be able to score more than 20 points against the Browns, or any other NFL defense for that matter. Josh left touchdowns on the field, that’s literally the difference in the game... Here’s the reason for the frustrations at the defense... We’ve invested so much in them. The defense should be dominant, and it’s not.... it’s a top 10 defense but not dominant at all. The offense is still a WIP led by a second year QB. ....but yes, the offense needs to be better & FG kicking is officially a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: He didn't play many snaps again. Was in on the 4th down goalline stop. Can you explain why he's not playing many snaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teds hotdog tester Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 20 years later the finally got a forward pass right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 You're not going to win too many games when the offense puts up 14 points. One of these days Allen needs to show he belongs in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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