C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think Kroft is better than James. Wow Gunner. Normally I’m with you but I don’t see that. Kroft averages 10 ypc for his career which is bottom tier for a receiver. James just has the best season of his career and seems to have much more upside. IMO, James is a better player. Why do you think Kroft is a better player? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Putin said: Like last year maybe? That is ONE year for christ sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, purple haze said: Does this board have a mute function? Yes. The ‘off’ button on your computer/phone/device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Wow Gunner. Normally I’m with you but I don’t see that. Kroft averages 10 ypc for his career which is bottom tier for a receiver. James just has the best season of his career and seems to have much more upside. IMO, James is a better player. Why do you think Kroft is a better player? He is more complete. Can do more things, is a better route runner. James is an overrated product of his offense. EDIT: I don't think either are a #1. I think Kroft is a slightly more well rounded #2. Edited March 11, 2019 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said: in 4 years Kroft has 67 for 661 8 TD in 3 years Uzomah has 79 769 5 TD Just saying Honestly they're very similar players. Kroft can start in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Wow. The Bills are added garbage. Him and Gore. Thse guys are barely worth the vet minimum. Who is next? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I'm on board with this signing. When healthy, he's better than what we've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, billspro said: There’s the veteran TE. Good chance the starter comes from the draft imo. Is he better than his Tomb Raider sister? We better draft Hockenson / Fant or were not upgraded TE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just delete this thread OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Who are all the guys Beane has brought in as trades or FA's "who we thought would do nothing and have proven the opposite"? Poyer? Hyde? And it's not just about f/a or trades. It's that as well as the draft and any un drafted free agents. It's the whole picture. I'm not saying every guy he signs is gonna be a hof'er, but that they have a pretty good track record minus a few players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think Kroft is better than James. Thanks Gunner.......I always wait to see your weigh in on this stuff. He looks like he can catch a off target ball.....how is his blocking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 James sits down in zones pretty well and can take a hit. Kroft reminds me of Justin Armour. Running around out there just waiting to get drilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 INteresting update... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Is it "Tuh"-ler or "Tie"-ler ? Edited March 11, 2019 by Azucho98 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, John from Riverside said: Thanks Gunner.......I always wait to see your weigh in on this stuff. He looks like he can catch a off target ball.....how is his blocking? Better than James's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Please merge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Step One: Go to top of this thread. Step Two: Click "Moderation Actions Tab" Step Three: Click Delete Button Step Four: Flourish. 1 minute ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Please merge Just now, whatdrought said: Step One: Go to top of this thread. Step Two: Click "Moderation Actions Tab" Step Three: Click Delete Button Step Four: Flourish. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, BillyWhiteShows said: Please merge Why? Just delete it lol. Not like there is something here the board cant lose thats not already in the 8 page thread. Mods got a lot on their plate today, help them out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, R Y G A R said: I'm on board with this signing. When healthy, he's better than what we've had. Sounds like a white Charles Clay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I hope I end up eating crow on how I feel about this signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 The front office likes guys with upside that have been injured recently which gets them a discount. The upside of that model is Jordan Poyer, the downside is Trent Murphy. As usual I'll wait for the guaranteed money before judging it. All quiet on the offensive line front. I think our biggest spending will go there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He is more complete. Can do more things, is a better route runner. James is an overrated product of his offense. EDIT: I don't think either are a #1. I think Kroft is a slightly more well rounded #2. Couldn’t you same similar things about Kroft? He would have a lot of open field to work with a guy like Green pulling coverages and he has averaged less than 10 ypc, which is kinda terrible. $6/ million for a guy like this, with little upside, seems questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Steptide said: Poyer? Hyde? And it's not just about f/a or trades. It's that as well as the draft and any un drafted free agents. It's the whole picture. I'm not saying every guy he signs is gonna be a hof'er, but that they have a pretty good track record minus a few players Beane was not the GM when Poyer and Hyde were signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Limeaid said: I like this quote: http://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/26220/its-a-stressful-time-for-many-first-time-nfl-free-agents "Free agency in football is a process that allows B-plus players to get A-plus contracts," said longtime player agent Leigh Steinberg. "The best players, the real superstars in the league, either have their contracts extended before they become free agents or they get franchised. The players that are out on the market are the ones the teams have decided they can live without. It doesn't mean they're not good. But the auction mentality, having multiple offers, always drives the price up." And what does that say about the handful of comp pick destroyers we’ll be signing in 2 weeks? Does the unwanted unwanteds mean their wanted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Yeah I heard AJ Green is demanding a trade to the Bills now Obviously, that's not what I meant. I was talking more along the lines of maybe he knows some info on if the Bengals are looking to trade AJ. Maybe if the Bills are looking into AJ Green and they are close to a deal, Kroft can be the guy to talk Green into coming here. That's what I meant but of course people only look at things with tunnel vision. They never look at the peripherals or the outside factors. If they did maybe people won't jump to conclusions about things and see the bigger picture of what someone is talking about Edited March 11, 2019 by Buffalo03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Beane was not the GM when Poyer and Hyde were signed. Whatever. I'm sure McDermott had alot of say. Same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Couldn’t you same similar things about Kroft? He would have a lot of open field to work with a guy like Green pulling coverages and he has averaged less than 10 ypc, which is kinda terrible. $6/ million for a guy like this, with little upside, seems questionable. Also coming off of surgery for a broken bone in his foot. That hardly ever ends well for a big guy who gets paid to run and jump. If he stays healthy he is a good enough pass catcher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Steptide said: Whatever. I'm sure McDermott had alot of say. Same thing Nice try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Come on guys, we need to calm down and trust the guy who signed Russell Bodine and traded for Kelvin Benjamin, after all he made the playoffs, he's just playing the whole league and has a plan. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I liked him coming out of college as he showed a lot of versatility. Really liked his ability to stretch the seam and his reliability as a pass catcher. Then he just disappeared in Cincy. I don't know much about that situation except they already had Eifert and I think Croft was drafted to be the #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-2019-nfl-free-agency-profile-tyler-kroft Solid not spectacular per PFF. I'm okay with this move so long he stays healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny3410 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) I like the signing just like when we signed Poyer. Risk vs Reward. Although money given to him bothers me. Edited March 11, 2019 by jpsp3434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The front office likes guys with upside that have been injured recently which gets them a discount. The upside of that model is Jordan Poyer, the downside is Trent Murphy. As usual I'll wait for the guaranteed money before judging it. All quiet on the offensive line front. I think our biggest spending will go there. We sure didn’t get Kroft at any sort of discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Also coming off of surgery for a broken bone in his foot. That hardly ever ends well for a big guy who gets paid to run and jump. If he stays healthy he is a good enough pass catcher. Good point. Foot injuries are rough ones for receivers. I can’t believe we couldn’t get a guy like this cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 another bargain basement FA. blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Kid has talent. If he can stay healthy. Everyone clamoring for Jesse James would have been disappointed I feel. James can block but not really a pass catching threat. Frankly those guys can be found anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, Chicharito said: Always injured and can’t block from what has been told. But they know more than us so hope it works out! Funny, I heard he can block. But what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Can he catch a missile at 40 years ? Inquiring minds need to know.... Edited March 11, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 They have him ranked 66th among TEs, right ahead of................ Nick O'Leary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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