Bockeye Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I'm going to have to go with Star. He was supposed clog the middle so our boys could wreak havoc on the QB, esp with the size of his contract. Trent stunk but is coming off injury. Peterman has never been good in the regular season. Only other I could think of is Benjamin, esp with his mouth in the preseason. (no fair pointing to McDermott and Beane because they don't count ...even thought they get D grades at this point). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I'd say Star, but he stunk in preseason also and is washed-up. I did not expect anything from him. Benjamin is my offensive disappointment. Poyer/Hyde on D. The secondary, esp. safety play was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Peterman. Also Benjamin. He should have caught that TD from Allen. This place would be a little happier if he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 good choices both played terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: I'd say Star, but he stunk in preseason also and is washed-up. I did not expect anything from him. Benjamin is my offensive disappointment. Poyer/Hyde on D. The secondary, esp. safety play was bad. we don't have the QB talent to have a WR like Benjamin. Cam would toss the ball up to him and let him make plays. I know he had a drop or two yesterday in the rain, but we don't put him in a position to make plays. He gets the ball when he's college open (which isn't often) and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 It's Peterman for me. During the pre-season I thought he had turned the corner and would be serviceable for the first 6 games while Allen got up to speed. He seemed to get the ball out quick and make accurate throws. But when it counted, he sh!t his pants again. The man has been outscored 77-7 in what amounts to a full game. That is just beyond pitiful. The secondary as a whole really stunk it up. They would be my #2 anxiety because I expected more from them. I knew Star would suck, so I didn't have high hopes for him. I expected more out of KB. He should have had at least 4 more catches from what was thrown to him. He should be a leader, not a quitter. Groy was disappointing, but being wedged between the turnstile twins is a tough task. Murphy was disappointing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Benjamin for me I expected Peterman to be brutal. I expected Benjamin to be serviceable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 If you can honestly evaluate the play of a DT from the television feed you might be a good candidate to work for Pro Football Focus! Benjamin, on the other hand, is a no-brainer... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBorBust2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Benjamin. Guy is awful. He won’t be back next year. Guy has a big mouth, bad attitude, and no hands i think the shauim griffin kid from Seattle would honestly be better than Benjamin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Benjamin not even second place to be considered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Are multiple trifectas allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Star is a fair choice, but I am most disappointed that he played less than half the defensive snaps. Not enough for a $50M player. Benjamin seemed uninterested. Maybe I cannot really tell if that's the case watching it on TV, but that was my take. I don't think he put anything on film that will have teams clamoring to throw money at him next offseason. The players all remind us fans that they "understand it's a business," so they should let that understanding show in their on-field performance. Edited September 10, 2018 by scribo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Not so sure Star was that awful, Edmunds and Milano both seemed to have solid performances, i dont believe if Star was that horrendous that would happen. Early in the game our run defense seemed fairly stout, It was Flacco killing us in the air. Sure Star didnt provide a pass rush but he was never expected to. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Its not fair to go with Star. He was drought in to help stop the run and the D gave up less than 50 yards of rushing. Easy to pick someone in the secondary the Ravens receivers were open all day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Benjamin for sure! I knew Peterman was average at best but KB totally disappointed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Not any one player, the entire organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Benjamin hands down. He tricked his QBs into trusting him, so they threw to him and the lazy goon betrayed them. Edited September 10, 2018 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 KB. Hated the signing last year. Was right to hate it. He complained it was Cam’s fault? Outta the frying pan, into the fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Has to be Benjamin. He out-petered Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 No one was more dissapointing than Peterman, that was so bad it was evident he doesn’t belong in the NFL let alone starting. But thats low hanging fruit. Looking past QB, O think their are 3 clear winners of the LVP award and biggest dissapointment: - Star - Being paid like an anchor on the D, playing like a guy lucky to be on a roster. - Kelvin - For a guy in a contract year, he looked like a guy who is washed up despite being under 30 still. Tough conditions aren’t an excuse given Ravens had no problem catching. - Vontae - Yes he didn’t play, but that’s why he’s on this list. Not even being able to be good enough to be active this week has been a major dissapointment. Really thought he was gonna hold down the spot opposite Tre and make this secondary one of the better ones, but he’s been. As all preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Benjamin. Groy. Secondary. and on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, row_33 said: Benjamin not even second place to be considered ....and in his contract year besides.....DEFINITELY OBJ money in his future.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I thought the entire team looked disinterested with the exception of Allen, Edmunds and the RB Murphy. Pitiful performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Bockeye said: I'm going to have to go with Star. He was supposed clog the middle so our boys could wreak havoc on the QB, esp with the size of his contract. Trent stunk but is coming off injury. Peterman has never been good in the regular season. Only other I could think of is Benjamin, esp with his mouth in the preseason. (no fair pointing to McDermott and Beane because they don't count ...even thought they get D grades at this point). I went back and watched Star specifically today and I wasn't upset with his play at all. He was doubled damn near every play and still pushed the Ravens line back at times. I don't know what more he could have done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I don't know who picked the wide receivers but they all seemed to be a bit sluggish with no separation . I don't know if it is coaching or lack of talent but you se e wide receivers getting open for all teams except the Bills,. Benjamin ,Kerly and Holmes are all rejects from another team. Get somebody that wants IT. Soooo......... My list is Benjamin and Terry Robiske the WR Coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Those who are ragging on Star have no idea how to evaluate him. He and Kyle are supposed to occupy up to 4 O linemen opening the backfield for the ends & LBs. Looked to me like they did exactly that. The Ravens running game was held in check. If you have a criticism you might want to direct it to others on the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Run defense was actually pretty good whichbwould suggest Star was doing his job. Benjamin for me. Didn't like his effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Benjamin, this guy did not come to play and his post-game comments sounded as if it wasn;t his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockeye Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, yungmack said: Those who are ragging on Star have no idea how to evaluate him. He and Kyle are supposed to occupy up to 4 O linemen opening the backfield for the ends & LBs. Looked to me like they did exactly that. The Ravens running game was held in check. If you have a criticism you might want to direct it to others on the D. I’ll accept that to an extent. I based my reaction on just watching the game and expecting a whole lot more from the D. Was it the DE’s that stunk? It seemed like Flacco had TONs of time back there. I figured if Star was eating up all those double teams, then our DE’s would be putting on the heat. From all the comments, seems like Benjamin was the most disappointing. Can’t argue with that. We need/should grab Perriman.....can’t do worse that what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Groy, now I know why he didn’t start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Peterman is like that Single A pitcher who throws 85 who should never make it to the bigs..... Benjamin is now exposed as slow, unmotivated with stone hands.... Lotolala was basically quoted today that he's here to 'do his job and go home". In other words do the bare minimum and pu your paycheck.... This is why I'm so glad the NFL dosen't hand out 100% guaranteed contracts (for the most part).... Trent Murphy thanks for coming.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Groy, now I know why he didn’t start He got completely blown up on some plays. I didn't think he was going to be that big of a dropoff from E Wood but we are in big trouble if yesterday was a reflection of his talent level as a starting Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, RyanC883 said: I'd say Star, but he stunk in preseason also and is washed-up. I did not expect anything from him. Benjamin is my offensive disappointment. Poyer/Hyde on D. The secondary, esp. safety play was bad. Wasn’t Star rated one of the worst DTs last year by PFF? And the Bills “braintrust” gives him a big free agent deal?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 In an ocean of possibilities, I'll go with Groy. Too many times helping the qb up and the head bob thing during the snap is a problem. Gives the defense a nice tell. Probably should partly blame Castillo for letting him do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 That's like asking with news was worse: -getting fired -cancer -hiv -dog died -house burned down -tupac got shot -the Beatles broke up -snape killed Dumbledore -mcdonalds discontinued schezuan sauce again They all suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, artmalibu said: Its not fair to go with Star. He was drought in to help stop the run and the D gave up less than 50 yards of rushing. Easy to pick someone in the secondary the Ravens receivers were open all day. And 3 different TEs caught 3 passes each. That’s what I hate about zone defense. Who was responsible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 7 hours ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: we don't have the QB talent to have a WR like Benjamin. Cam would toss the ball up to him and let him make plays. I know he had a drop or two yesterday in the rain, but we don't put him in a position to make plays. He gets the ball when he's college open (which isn't often) and that's it. valid point, but this is about yesterday. He was disappointing yesterday (not overall, to which your point is valid). Yesterday he should have had a TD, ended up causing an INT, among other miscues. 4 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Wasn’t Star rated one of the worst DTs last year by PFF? And the Bills “braintrust” gives him a big free agent deal?! yep. Like a FA Hail-Mary I think. Were there other DL out there? I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I’d say Benjamin but I knew he was bad going in. Let’s hope Allen and Zay develop some chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Bockeye said: I'm going to have to go with Star. He was supposed clog the middle so our boys could wreak havoc on the QB, esp with the size of his contract. Trent stunk but is coming off injury. Peterman has never been good in the regular season. Only other I could think of is Benjamin, esp with his mouth in the preseason. (no fair pointing to McDermott and Beane because they don't count ...even thought they get D grades at this point). Benjamin was my biggest disappointment. He's in a contract year, he's been acting as though he likes working with Peterman, he needs to catch those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Vontae Davis for not even being good enough to be activated on game day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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