BuffaloRush Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 So there was a great discussion on WGR this weekend from their JV squad about Tyrod Taylor. Joe and Brayton I believe. I think they are usually the guys producing the shows and don’t listen to these chaps - but they were really good. Anyway someone posed a very tough question...Was The Tyrod Taylor zeta Successful? It’s a question I’m struggling with quite a bit. I can see both sides of the argument here: YES: It was successful if you never viewed Tyrod as the answer at QB and more of a bridge. He successfully moved the team away from the failed EJ Manuel experiement and was a clear upgrade over veteran Matt Cassell. He was a lower tier free agent that outplayed his contract - even when he was resigned to a larger deal. The Bills probably waited one year too long to draft a QB, but that isn’t Tyrod’s fault. Also the team could have built an offense around Tyrod’s skill set, especially in 2017. Again, not his fault. From a numbers standpoint you can point to the playa he extended and his NFL low INT’s as a starting QB The most convincing factor for a “yes” vote? The first QB to play in a playoff game for he Bills in 17 years. Enough said. NO: Tyrod’s record as a starter says it all 23-22. He was a mediocre starting QB and you can’t call that a success. His bleak record when trailing by 4 points speaks volumes. He rarely came through in the 4th when the Bills were trailing and he also never took over a game through he air like the great QB’s do. He didn’t throw many INT’s but his risk aversion also left many points on the board as the team lost many low scoring football games . He struggled with short to intermediate throws and some might attribute frequent injuries to WR’s to that fact. Tyrod (and the Bills coaches) also never seemed to have an answer to defenses that effectively schemed against him. This was very apparent many times throughout his career - most recent against Jacksonville in the playoffs. So what do you say? Success of Failure. Make your voice heard!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) We obtained him for basically nothing. Paid him like a bottom-tier QB. Made the playoffs with him. Broke the curse/drought. The guy was brought in as an afterthought. There were zero expectations. Success Edited March 12, 2018 by bobobonators 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1) Fun, it was fun to watch him run around and make something of nothing. 2) Frustrating,when a guy was one on one or wide open and he hung onto the ball too long. Good Luck in Cleveland TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I have to say yes, simply because we made the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Could have been but Bortles put him down. The panthers, saints, pats, jags games we would have been better off with any random hs qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I think the needle stayed the same...maybe a slight uptick for the playoff game. What was our record the year before he got here? What was the record last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 He was a net plus for a downtrodden organization Now it's time to pass the torch to a QB that can take us to the next level. Hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 He played a part in getting us to the playoffs. That being said, I think it had more to do with McCoy than anyone else. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Define Success. Regression over 3 seasons? 3 OC's fired? 30th ranked passing game? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Got to the playoffs. Success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, rodneykm said: He played a part in getting us to the playoffs. That being said, I think it had more to do with McCoy than anyone else. my point exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 TT.. I wouldn't call it a success but you can't call it a failure either.. He was what we had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Define Success. Regression over 3 seasons? 3 OC's fired? 30th ranked passing game? How did 3 OC’s get fired? One became a HC bc of this offense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Above-500 record plus a playoff berth. Success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) i think it was a success enough. i wasn't expecting much when he was brought in, and he exceeded my expectations. unfortunately he just isn't good enough, but i appreciate his time here. Edited March 12, 2018 by teef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Moderately successful but not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 8-8 7-9 9-7 (backing into playoffs) We (generally speaking) only consider this "success," because we're Bills fans. That is a crappy three seasons and I, personally, do not consider it a successful run. That's not all on Tyrod. It's a team game. And this team stunk the entire time he was here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Yes. The drought is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Yes. Brought in for peanuts, jettisoned after he proved to not be the answer, and we made the playoffs with him at QB. The biggest success of the TT era was that it only lasted 3 years, and we made the postseason in one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 The bar is so low. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Tyrod's record was over .500, he helps somewhat give some stability to a very unstable QB issue in Buffalo. I would say 'above average' success. C+ overall grade. I wish Tyrod well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I would label it as moderately successful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 The Bills might have drafted a better QB if he was never here or went with Foles . Getting the #65 pick for him helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Successful for making the playoffs. I do believe if we had the right coach in years prior and a better QB the drought would of been over two years before it was. We had allot of talent on that team and bad coaching and bad QB play killed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, bobobonators said: We obtained him for basically nothing. Paid him like a bottom-tier QB. Made the playoffs with him. Broke the curse/drought. The guy was brought in as an afterthought. There were zero expectations. Success And got Cleveland’s third for him.... I’ve had more fun watching the bills this past three years than any other period since 2000. yes for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) I'd say yes, relatively speaking. Tyrod does have a winning record as QB (by one game), and did string together some good games here and there. However, he isn't anything more than a .500 QB, and never will be. I call it a success because even a .500 QB is better than the crap we've seen for most of the lost 17 years. The playoff appearance was more a fluke and luck than anything Tyrod did. The playoff game was really the epitome of a Tyrod game: He protected the ball and didn't do enough to win the game on his own. Edited March 12, 2018 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I say yes for the playoffs alone if nothing else. It feels good to be off the schneid. Tyrod is who he is and that was enough to help get us there. Now it's time to go out and get a guy to take us from scraping in to being in contention for the AFC. Thanks for your service Tyrod. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Considering we signed him as an afterthought and he left with a winning’ish (more like .500) record and one playoff appearance you can say he had success. On on the other hand our teams had quite a bit of talent, much of wasted by Rex and Rob, during the Tyrod era. I always thought we could have been better. Tyrod was was much better than the other drought years QBs ... which is an abysmal reflection on the Bills front office/ organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Yes, I believe the TT era was a success. We improved as a team and organization while TT was here along with improving our record during his tenure along with making the playoffs for the first time this century. However, I believe we hit the ceiling with TT and TT hit his ceiling. It was a success and time to move on for both him and us. Win, win now and win, win then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 The O ranked 13 and 16 in yards under TT in 2015 and 16, but Rex turned a top 5 D into bottom 10. Should’ve made the playoffs all 3 years. One of TT’s strengths is the deep ball, which was non-existent in 2017 because they dumped the deep wr threats. They had a little success once they brought Thompson on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Interesting question. I wouldn’t vote a straight yes or no. I would say it was somewhat successful. That is also because we have low expectations as Bills fans. 23 and 22 with 1 playoff birth in 3 years on a franchise like Pittsburgh would be considered a big failure , but that record for Bills or Browns fans is considered descent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Define success. Improvement? Then Tyrod was a success. Playoffs? Success. Winning a Super Bowl? Failure. But that makes 31 teams failures each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Christ. Most of you tools have griped non-stop about getting rid of him. Then they finally do and you tools still cannot shut up about him. It is friggin' over. Your opinion as to whether or not it was a success is about as meaningful as that pimple on my butt. Give it two years, it will be obvious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 No absolutely No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 It wasn't a complete failure, but it wasn't overly successful. His Bills era lies somewhere in the middle, just like his QBR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 failure - we didn't win the superbowl.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Super Bowl is success. So no, it wasnt a success. After all, winning the title is supposed to be goal. being happy with a playoff appearance, no matter how long its been, ill pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 well below the Flutie era, which I consider the bottom of respectability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Of course it was he made sh,it load of money , now as far as the team/Bills if you have to ask that question I guess you already know the answer , I know people will point to the playoff/game but let's not also forget the San Diego/benching . IMO no !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Putin said: Of course it was he made sh,it load of money , now as far as the team/Bills if you have to ask that question I guess you already know the answer , I know people will point to the playoff/game but let's not also forget the San Diego/benching . IMO no !! I'm willing to sit through a few 2-14s to get a real contender (hopefully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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