Bangarang Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Of all the depth signings, this guy actually helped us win games last year. Welcome back Ty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 26 minutes ago, Logic said: I don't think you can get much better at RB3 than what Johnson gave the Bills last season. Aside from playing special teams, he also ran the ball with burst and power and caught it well out of the backfield. He's probably also making vet minimum or close to it. Good signing. Agreed. He certainly passed the eyeball test last season and is a classic case of why RBs are regarded as a dime a dozen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 38 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Credit Brady for seeing the potential Dorsey missed Yep! Can even say the same about James Cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: Was Harris a 1 year deal? Thought it was a two but I could be mistaken. 1 year only and I doubt he comes back 12 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: Was Harris a 1 year deal? Thought it was a two but I could be mistaken. Edited March 14 by KDIGGZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 15 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: Was Harris a 1 year deal? Thought it was a two but I could be mistaken. I could have sworn there was reports that Harris thinking of retiring after that injury, but yes he was a 1 year deal. 7 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Yep! Can even say the same about James Cook You can say the same about everyone except for Diggs, honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 This fixes everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: Solid move there’s a couple teams you could make the case TY could be RB1. Now RB room is set even if they contract a guy which they probably will anyway. lol name 1 he's on his 3rd team in 5 seasons and has never had 275 yards rushing. In Detroit, he couldn't beat out Bo Scarborough for the RB@. In NYJ, he couldn't beat out Tevin Coleman or Zonovan Knight---and those were bad rushing Offenses, the bar was low. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Love this move 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 55 minutes ago, FireChans said: Most elite RB with less than 200 yards from scrimmage last year. Resembles a Thurman & Kenneth Davis back field . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 49 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: This is HUGE!!! Cook and Ty are a perfect 1/2. Maybe get a cheap vet or late draft pick to round out the room. Agreed. If Corum falls to the mid rounds he’d be the perfect compliment to these 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I can’t believe he only had 132 yards in 2023. Felt more like 332. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Bills need a bigger back like Ravens use. Maybe they can get one for PS to get ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I like Ty, but he should have heavy competition for his role. He had 200 yards last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 A big fan of this. Ty Johnson runs like he’s pissed off at the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Nice. I'd draft a guy in round 5-6 and call it a day. Don't spend money on RBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 26 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It really wasn't much: 132 yards rushing and 88 receiving. Wouldn't it have been better to spread those touches (3-4 per game for Johnson) amongst Murray and Cook? Bills drafted Singletary and Moss and ultimately let them go because they didn't want to pay them second contract money down the road for what they were getting (the Bills got Hines for Moss--oof). They replaced these two, ultimately, with Murray and Johnson--the former an ancient journeyman, the latter a career journeyman scrub. No. Cook needs a breather at times. He's not the biggest guy in the world. When those breathers were needed, Johnson showed more as a runner and receiver from midseason onward than Murray did. You give the touches to the guy that earns them. Johnson earned them. Johnson posted 4.4 yards per carry. Cook 4.7. Murray 3.8. That means that after Cook, the next most productive guy when toting the rock was Ty Johnson. So why give those carries to Murray? I want and expect the Bills to draft or sign an RB2. But when your RB3 can run it for 4.4 yards a pop, catch the ball, and provide a change of pace for your RB1 when needed while ALSO playing special teams -- that's a useful player. That's why I'm glad they re-signed Johnson. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Meh. I think he is a JAG but hopefully a cheap one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I like Ty. He has some great traits. He is big, thick, and very fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) it is refreshing to read a move that has nearly no controversy attached. Overall POSITIVE move. Good for him! and hopefully we fans too moving forward. Edited March 14 by muppy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, muppy said: it is refreshing to read a move that has zero to no controversy attached. Overall POSITIVE move. Good for him! and hopefully we fans too moving forward. FireChans hasn't posted yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art in PNS Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 12 minutes ago, Punching Bag said: Bills need a bigger back like Ravens use. Maybe they can get one for PS to get ready. I'm hoping they add Bralen Allen from Wisconsin with one of the 5th Rounders if he's still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, Logic said: No. Cook needs a breather at times. He's not the biggest guy in the world. When those breathers were needed, Johnson showed more as a runner and receiver from midseason onward than Murray did. You give the touches to the guy that earns them. Johnson earned them. Johnson posted 4.4 yards per carry. Cook 4.7. Murray 3.8. That means that after Cook, the next most productive guy when toting the rock was Ty Johnson. So why give those carries to Murray? I want and expect the Bills to draft or sign an RB2. But when your RB3 can run it for 4.4 yards a pop, catch the ball, and provide a change of pace for your RB1 when needed while ALSO playing special teams -- that's a useful player. That's why I'm glad they re-signed Johnson. Ask McD and Brady. They rarely used Johnson--even as a Breather for Cook (going with Murray instead). Or ask the Jets--they dumped him the season before (at a whopping 5.3 YPC!!). Or Detroit.... Johnson's yards per carry are from samples sizes so small that they are mostly meaningless. The fact that he averaged 22 inches more per carry than Murray doesn't move the needle. Clearly it didn't warrant more touches, and it hasn't throughout his career. This guy has been on a few bad RB rosters---and he still couldn't separate himself from the pack in the RB room. I get it--he's a cheap guy to send in for 3 plays a game to give Cook a rest. That's all he's ever been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I get it--he's a cheap guy to send in for 3 plays a game to give Cook a rest. That's all he's ever been. Right. He's an RB3 likely making vet minimum. If that was your argument -- "he's no more than an RB3", then you should have just said that from the jump instead of talking about Latavius Murray and Devin Singletary and Zack Moss and who deserved touches in the offense. If your point is "he's an RB3, he's nothing too special", then I agree. I think he's a pretty GOOD RB3, which is why I like the cheap re-signing, but he's an RB3 nonetheless. So if that's all you're saying, then we're on the same page. We could've saved ourselves some effort here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 100% the right move to bring him back in. The next move better be the draft. One of the 5th is fine for a 3rd RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 he runs hard for a little dude. perfect spell for cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, 4thandGoal said: And how will they going to get so much better with the cap situation they are in! What would you have done to change all this without being deeper in the hole. They are getting somewhat younger on the o-line. Our 2nd or 3rd RB will be better and younger then Murray. Our second WR, which should be a rookie will be just as good as Davis but also dont sleep on our rookie , or Shorter or Hollis. They lost journeyman along the Dline and will add thru the draft and cheaper contracts in FA. The LB will be better with Milano hopefully healthy for the whole year. The D Backs will be the same and we just need to add a safety(one in FA and one in the draft) I don't dislike Ty, but did we really need to prioritize a backup RB at this stage in FA, or a backup S (Cam Lewis), or a backup LB/ST (Morrow), or a ST gunner/backup WR (Mack Hollins), or a backup QB (Trubisky) or a FB/backup TE (Morris), or a Punter? We have massive holes in the starting lineup and need to improve our roster with significant talent to keep up/pass the Chiefs, Ravens, etc... yet we're focused on backups. None of these guys are impact players and they can all just as easily be replaced with rookies or signings later closer to training camp. Take their collective salaries (Hollins, $3M, Lewis $4m, Trubisky ..., etc.) and sign a real impact player, before they're all gone. 1 hour ago, Bruffalo said: This is a ridiculous statement this early into FA and without seeing what we do in the draft. Is there some FA RB you'd rather have that'll be around the same price as Johnson? I can't think of any. It's not about the RB per se. Its about prioritizing signing backups when we need starters in key areas. Meanwhile the best FAs are quickly disappearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 He earned a new deal. I’m glad he’s back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 no brainer but i view him as the RB3 the RB2 is not on team yet obviously cook is RB1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 58 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: lol name 1 he's on his 3rd team in 5 seasons and has never had 275 yards rushing. In Detroit, he couldn't beat out Bo Scarborough for the RB@. In NYJ, he couldn't beat out Tevin Coleman or Zonovan Knight---and those were bad rushing Offenses, the bar was low. Dallas cowboys next question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Since we paid a dime, 11 more should be coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 29 minutes ago, Logic said: Right. He's an RB3 likely making vet minimum. If that was your argument -- "he's no more than an RB3", then you should have just said that from the jump instead of talking about Latavius Murray and Devin Singletary and Zack Moss and who deserved touches in the offense. If your point is "he's an RB3, he's nothing too special", then I agree. I think he's a pretty GOOD RB3, which is why I like the cheap re-signing, but he's an RB3 nonetheless. So if that's all you're saying, then we're on the same page. We could've saved ourselves some effort here. I was mainly responding to the claim that this guy could be a RB! on other teams, which is absurd. As a (previous) RB on bad running teams, he couldn't get past bad RB2's. As the Bills R3, he's a warm body for a few touches a game. Singletary and Moss were mentioned in a different context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 26 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said: I don't dislike Ty, but did we really need to prioritize a backup RB at this stage in FA, or a backup S (Cam Lewis), or a backup LB/ST (Morrow), or a ST gunner/backup WR (Mack Hollins), or a backup QB (Trubisky) or a FB/backup TE (Morris), or a Punter? We have massive holes in the starting lineup and need to improve our roster with significant talent to keep up/pass the Chiefs, Ravens, etc... yet we're focused on backups. None of these guys are impact players and they can all just as easily be replaced with rookies or signings later closer to training camp. Take their collective salaries (Hollins, $3M, Lewis $4m, Trubisky ..., etc.) and sign a real impact player, before they're all gone. It's not about the RB per se. Its about prioritizing signing backups when we need starters in key areas. Meanwhile the best FAs are quickly disappearing. I will take elite offensive line versus spending any significant dollars at the RB position. If they don't come cheap then draft and replace. Good offensive line will make an average back look decent. Edited March 14 by billieve420 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Dallas cowboys next question he would have to beat out Rico Dowdle. His history confirms that would not be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he would have to beat out Rico Dowdle. His history confirms that would not be possible. Rico Dowdle and Deuce Vaughns history suggest otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I'd much rather have him keep the RB3 job. I could see adding a veteran ahead of him tbh. Dillon please 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 10 minutes ago, stinky finger said: Dillon please 😁 He's on my want list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Solid signing and well deserved. He looked great when he got action last season and was good enough to not need Lenny on the team after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He's on my want list. He’d be a great addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) running the ball, he's a JAG. 100%. but I always had a good feeling when they threw the ball his way. Safe, dependable, runs hard, etc. If you could combine his intangibles with Cook's talent, we'd have a perfect back. and i don't dislike cook. but he's impossible to trust. edit: just looked at his numbers, and maybe im remembering stuff that's not real. 7 catches in the regular season. 1 post season. 1 fumble. Edited March 14 by Man with No Name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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