HurlyBurly51 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 He was at the very top of re-signing our own free agents list imo, so great job! 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Thad Brown @thadbrown7 DaQuan Jones back with the #Bills. Per his agency, 2 years/$16M. $10.5M guaranteed. Seems a solid contract for both sides. And Buffalo keeps a huge part of their defensive line. Really good move. 10.5 guaranteed so that means 5.5 mill in various bonuses. Not too shabby. He's a dominant force when he plays. Just need him to stay healthy. Edited March 12 by sven233 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Vikings signed Sam Darnold. Naturally Jefferson should demand a trade to Buffalo 🤪 Just now, sven233 said:Thad Brown @ thadbrown7 DaQuan Jones back with the #Bills. Per his agency, 2 years/$16M. $10.5M guaranteed. Seems a solid contract for both sides. And Buffalo keeps a huge part of their defensive line. Really good move. 10.5 Guaranteed so that means 5.5 mill in various bonuses. Not too shabby. BULLSEYE 2 minutes ago, sven233 said: Thad Brown @thadbrown7 DaQuan Jones back with the #Bills. Per his agency, 2 years/$16M. $10.5M guaranteed. Seems a solid contract for both sides. And Buffalo keeps a huge part of their defensive line. Really good move. 10.5 guaranteed so that means 5.5 mill in various bonuses. Not too shabby. He's a dominant force when he plays. Just need him to stay healthy. if we added 1 void year it’s even better than that cap hit wise Edited March 12 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 42 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Hmm. Guess it was a bad year to need DL help. We are bringing back the same underperforming group and hoping for the best. I'm a little perplexed about Beane's strategy these past couple weeks. Cut underperforming overpaid players, then turn around and re-sign a bunch of guys in the same bucket. I'm sure the real numbers aren't so bad. Hopefully he's healthy and gives us the level of play we got before his injury. I'm not upset about this individual signing. Just confused about what the plan is. They resigned a couple of the top players on our line. Epenesa was a force this past year that should have gotten all of Miller's snaps. I thought for sure he would've been out of our price range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I love Beane after dark! Reckon he'd be a hoot at parties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: They resigned a couple of the top players on our line. Epenesa was a force this past year that should have gotten all of Miller's snaps. I thought for sure he would've been out of our price range. I was pretty sure when it happened that Von's unexpected large cap saving move was done to ensure we kept them both. I'm glad they're both staying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 46 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Hmm. Guess it was a bad year to need DL help. We are bringing back the same underperforming group and hoping for the best. I'm a little perplexed about Beane's strategy these past couple weeks. Cut underperforming overpaid players, then turn around and re-sign a bunch of guys in the same bucket. I'm sure the real numbers aren't so bad. Hopefully he's healthy and gives us the level of play we got before his injury. I'm not upset about this individual signing. Just confused about what the plan is. I see it as the plan is only beginning. We only have Oliver and Jones at the Defensive Tackle position, and there will be more additions. Just wait and see. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said: Someone tell me how I should feel about this.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I see it as the plan is only beginning. We only have Oliver and Jones at the Defensive Tackle position, and there will be more additions. Just wait and see. Yes, there will be more additions. But they aren't going to be players that are bigger names or cost more than Jones. We didn't hand that money over to him to be rotational depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 32 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: We’re 1 day into the real offseason. Jeepers!! It's always like this on this board this time of year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Whkfc Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I guess if you don't change anything you can continue to lose in the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: The plan as usual is to use up all the cap on a mediocre roster, be bad at WR other than Diggs and watch Josh Allen perform endless miracles to make the team seem "good" and win a bunch of games but never sniff a Superbowl despite having the best QB ever. The weapon opposite Diggs will come in the Draft. Would you rather us have spent Round 1 on a Defensive Lineman? I'm sure you wouldn't have liked that either. Like it or not, these positions needed to be filled one way or the other. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Solid deal not a complete steal or anything but they are paying D Jones appropriately and now with the resigning of Jones and AJE the defensive line looks solid. Likely I suspect the Bills will round out the defensive line rotation by resigning Shaq Lawson to a one year cheap deal and then sign 1 or 2 of the vet DT’s (J Phillips, Settle and or Ford). Then I think the Bills add a pair of draft picks to the mix. I am thinking the starting lineup looks like the following Von-D Jones-Oliver-Groot The the rotation behind them will look like. At DE - AJE, Shaq Lawson, Kingsley Jonathan and a draft pick. At DT - Jordan Phillips, Poona Ford or Tim Settle and a draft pick. Basically running back the same defensive line rotation as last season but swapping out Floyd and one of the vet DT’s with draft picks and hopefully a better version on Von. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Not a fan of this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: The weapon opposite Diggs will come in the Draft. Would you rather us have spent Round 1 on a Defensive Lineman? I'm sure you wouldn't have liked that either. Like it or not, these positions needed to be filled one way or the other. I don’t understand this idea that the Bills spending prime draft resources on the offense like they did last year is not addressing offensive needs? The Bills brining back AJE and D Jones on two year deals at a modest rate is bad because hypothetically they could use that money on offense? I would much rather consistently spend the top draft picks on offense and try to cobble together a defense with back end draft picks and moderate free agency dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Don't love it. DQ has been great for us but he is old and coming off an injury. Hopefully there is a cheap out after 1 of those 2 years. What bringing he and AJE back does do is make sure we are not desperate at DL going into the draft. Edited March 12 by GunnerBill 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Very happy with this. Played very well. Contract very team friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Don't love it. DQ has been great for us but he is hold and coming off an injury. Hopefully there is a cheap out after 1 of those 2 years. $10.5m guaranteed … so probably not Edited March 12 by Aussie Joe 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: Hmm. Guess it was a bad year to need DL help. We are bringing back the same underperforming group and hoping for the best. I'm a little perplexed about Beane's strategy these past couple weeks. Cut underperforming overpaid players, then turn around and re-sign a bunch of guys in the same bucket. I'm sure the real numbers aren't so bad. Hopefully he's healthy and gives us the level of play we got before his injury. I'm not upset about this individual signing. Just confused about what the plan is. I agree. AJ and DQ don't move the improving the team needle. I'm big on "contineue to do what you have always done, get the results you have always gotten ". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 1 more DT to replace Phillips / Settle then 1 in the draft would be my guess Reader - highly unlikely now (but oh my!) Rankins Roach Don't forget A'Shawn Robinson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 25 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: $10.5m guaranteed … so probably not They could account for the bonus this year though or a lot of it, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: They could account for the bonus this year though or a lot of it, no? Yes they could … but it’s highly unlikely given how tight things are .. Im thinking he will count about $4m on the cap in 2024 … so not a lot of savings to cut him for 2025 … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: The weapon opposite Diggs will come in the Draft. Would you rather us have spent Round 1 on a Defensive Lineman? I'm sure you wouldn't have liked that either. Like it or not, these positions needed to be filled one way or the other. At WR the Bills should try to get a proven veteran plus a couple of draft picks for the long term. Picking at the end of round 1 in a position of desperation for immediate production at one of the most important positions on the field is asking for another season with no championship. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Jones, though not elite, looked great before the pec injury. Our defense as a whole looked violent and was flying toward the ball until Milano, Jones, and White went down. I like that we're bringing him back. I don't really look at his age with the position he plays. He's going to take up blockers in a rotational role and we'll still add another DT in the draft I think. And probably even a cheaper option on a 1 or 2 year deal a week or so down the road when the FA dust settles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I have a feeling that Beane had give both AJ and DaQuan offers and they wanted to see if anyone backed up Brinks truck. When no one did they take the known quantity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, QLBillsFan said: He’s played excellent football. Can’t imagine how you can see this as anything but positive. Doesn’t mean the Bills won’t draft another DT but this was critical. 4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Don't agree with you on anything in this post. He had a torn pec that is a freak accident not an age issue. The Bills were never in cap trouble. They haven't gotten rid of anybody that they didn't want to because of age and injury. That said I applaud your contrarian post. It's fine to disagree with the board sentiment and with Beane or McDermott. Just because he was good doesn’t mean it continues. Part of this off season has been getting younger and out of cap trouble. And here we are signing a guy over 30 to a pretty large contract for the position. To a guy that I believe is in the downside if his career. the other guy in the DL they signed has never not had injury issues (AJ) since he’s been here. And disappears after all out 8 games into every season. All seems like more of the same to me. For once I was excited about the off season where we were making some real changes. Instead it’s more of the same. These guys weren’t good enough and haven’t been so let’s sign them to larger contracts and hope THEY get better. Not going to happen imo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 hours ago, pi2000 said: Makes cents 16,000,000,000 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 41 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: At WR the Bills should try to get a proven veteran plus a couple of draft picks for the long term. Picking at the end of round 1 in a position of desperation for immediate production at one of the most important positions on the field is asking for another season with no championship. I saw an article that suggested signing DJ Chark, who I think would fill the proven veteran. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 He just wasn't the same when he came back from his injury. Maybe he came back too soon, or maybe he is showing signs of age. I hope they have a back up plan in case it is that Jones was showing his age when he came back. But he was excellent pre-London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Interesting comments in this thread. I would have thought it a no-brainer “good thing” to have DQ back in the mix, but a lot of you are worried he is falling off the cliff. I guess we’ll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) I heard rumors that Beane wasn't even talking to his agent so I'm a little surprised by this as all I kept hearing was younger and cheaper. Pleasantly surprised and I hope he returns to form. I always get squeamish when signing non qb's past the age of 30. Edited March 12 by Doc Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, eball said: Interesting comments in this thread. I would have thought it a no-brainer “good thing” to have DQ back in the mix, but a lot of you are worried he is falling off the cliff. I guess we’ll see. When the wall comes for those big guys it comes fast. I'd have preferred one year $8m and kick some of that money into a void year to make it fit than two years $16m. I'm not sad that he is back so much as I thought it should be a year at a time for him at this stage of his career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Daquan was the most important Bill to resign IMO. Now we have retained most of our important FA Bills, it is game on for Beane and company. Here comes the second wave of FA, discount shopping! Lets add a skilled WR and Safety 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I'm perplexed at all the Daquan haters... have you not watched the tape? He's been an absolute beast when he's on the field. Seems we got him at a reasonable cost and for the right length of time. This is a good signing. https://youtu.be/A9C4IvPD7eg?si=DaMSBCauuvk0lklo https://www.youtube.com/live/KclB_PgRpqg?si=mHStd0pIeOgENLps 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Pete said: Daquan was the most important Bill to resign IMO. Now we have retained most of our important FA Bills, it is game on for Beane and company. Here comes the second wave of FA, discount shopping! Lets add a skilled WR and Safety I wouldn't call Day 2 of the legal tampering period, "The Second Wave of Free Agency". Especially when it comes to WR. Outside of Gabe Davis, there wasn't any big WR deals signed today. That market is still largely untouched. Edited March 12 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 hours ago, somnus00 said: Just needs to stay healthy. He was playing at all-pro levels before his injury last season. The season before, I thought he was our defensive MVP. Yes and so was Ed. Phenomenal duo, one of the best imo. Before the injury he was a top 3 graded DT unanimously by your pffs and other analytic sites and I mean the tape speaks for itself 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 hours ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said: Someone tell me how I should feel about this.. You should feel good. A solid signing at a very respectable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 hours ago, QLBillsFan said: He’s played excellent football. Can’t imagine how you can see this as anything but positive. Doesn’t mean the Bills won’t draft another DT but this was critical. You’re not from around these parts, are ya? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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