Bills!Win! Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) The NFL honors is tomorrow night. I’ve never watched it but I may tune in just because Josh Allen is in the running for MVP. My question is, do they select who the MVP is before the playoffs or do they wait till this week? If it’s before the playoffs it’s Lamar. If it’s after the playoffs I believe Josh Allen has it locked in Ive also never watched the show. Is it worth tuning in to? I heard Keegan Michael Key is hosting it. I’ve only seen some of his stuff. It’s good material from what I’ve seen. Edited February 7 by Bills!Win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 It's before and it's Lamar. 1 2 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Is Baltimore in the Superbowl? Did anything believe the Ravens would be in the SB?? Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 better to watch the clips of it after. the clips that are not reaction videos, tiktoks etc. just the highlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I don't think I've ever watched it before. Will Josh Allen actually be there? I might watch the recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) If Lamar wins it, it's a shame as yes, as a Bills homer I feel Josh should win yet if he doesn't Christian McCaffrey would be 2nd on my list followed by Tyreek Hill. Yet I get it the award is going to likely go to the best player on the best team and not necessarily the most valuable player. I mean everyone knows the Ravens couldn't find a QB that could pass for less than 250 yards in 7 games and score less than 2 TDs per game on his own. Edited February 7 by The Jokeman 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 If Lamar wins it will be the second time he has won it over Josh with half the stats. Does anyone actually buy Lamar as MVP? 2 1 12 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: If Lamar wins it will be the second time he has won it over Josh with half the stats. Does anyone actually buy Lamar as MVP? No, but if enough national media people say it then people start to believe it. The guy with the most touchdowns in the league this year wasnt voted into the Pro Bowl. NFL awards, and accolades are an extension of the NFL's hype machine, they dont need to be based in fact. They only need to help sell jerseys. 7 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Josh Allen is the ONLY player in the NFL who can take over a game. He's the ONLY one who seemingly risks life and limb in games. He's a grinder more than anyone. He's due. He's the MVP!!! 3 5 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 9 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: If Lamar wins it will be the second time he has won it over Josh with half the stats. Does anyone actually buy Lamar as MVP? 2023 would be the worst MVP in a long time. Allen and McCaffery deserve it over Lamar. 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Watch the highlight reel of Lamar's best plays. It's him running and the only one of him throwing (what quarterbacks do) is him throwing it up for grabs and luckily his guy catches it in a sea of defenders. Terrible throw. Lamar is not a good quarterback, he is actually below average. But hey, look at him run around. That's fun! 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: 2023 would be the worst MVP in a long time. Allen and McCaffery deserve it over Lamar. Its basically the "QB on the team with the best regular season record" award at this point. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: If Lamar wins it will be the second time he has won it over Josh with half the stats. Does anyone actually buy Lamar as MVP? The bobbleheads on TV will tell you he is deserving. The award itself has actually shifted from the ACTUAL most valuable player to, the QB on the team with best record in the NFL more times than not. They also love to pump up Jackson, Mahomes (who is actually justified), Hurts, Prescott, Burrow, Lawrence, whoever, while always picking various reasons to slight Allen. Turnovers, "could have been" turnovers, the guys he chooses to throw to on any given play, anything they can use, but they have to continue to carry that flag. The clown show will continue. The same crap media types and analysts will spew the same crap narratives, on their same crap shows, to generate clicks or views from their trough fed audience. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 14 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: Josh Allen is the ONLY player in the NFL who can take over a game. He's the ONLY one who seemingly risks life and limb in games. He's a grinder more than anyone. He's due. He's the MVP!!! Disagree. Mahomes can do it as well. He has many times in his career. 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Gregg said: Disagree. Mahomes can do it as well. He has many times in his career. Eh. Not like Allen does. Allen becomes possessed it seems. Sometimes a good thing, sometimes a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Blackbeard said: Eh. Not like Allen does. Allen becomes possessed it seems. Sometimes a good thing, sometimes a bad thing. Allen is an elite player no doubt. But have to give to credit to Mahomes as well. He can take over a game just like Josh. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 IMO, Josh had way to many negative plays to be the MVP. He was just too inconsistent this year. I personally think it should be CMC. 2000+ yards and 21 TDs is a very impressive season and he didn't even play the last game. But it'll most likely be a QB, probably Lamar. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Gregg said: Allen is an elite player no doubt. But have to give to credit to Mahomes as well. He can take over a game just like Josh. lol I give him loads of credit, but he's no Allen. Allen can be a bully. Agree to disagree. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 19 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: 2023 would be the worst MVP in a long time. Allen and McCaffery deserve it over Lamar. The biggest flaw in mvp voting is it doesn't factor playoffs. It's basically a regular season award given to the qb with the least amount of interceptions. I think after this season the Lamar love- fest will wane because of his playoff struggles. Josh will probably be runner up a 3rd time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I know it’s a lock Lamar will win it because the talking heads have it in their heads, but seems like that would be more of a collective team recognition than a true MVP season or achievement. If it’s not Josh, it should be CMC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I say CMC earned it and Tyreek Hill came in 2nd. They were both unstopable for long stretches. Then you can talk about who was more valuable, Josh or Lamar. I'd probably go: CMC Hill Josh Lamar 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 18 minutes ago, Blank Stare said: I know it’s a lock Lamar will win it because the talking heads have it in their heads, but seems like that would be more of a collective team recognition than a true MVP season or achievement. If it’s not Josh, it should be CMC. The host on one of the FS1 shows this morning predicted Josh would win MVP... that they have to take into account total offense, total TDs, etc.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Blackbeard said: Josh Allen is the ONLY player in the NFL who can take over a game. Modest exageration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 26 minutes ago, zow2 said: The host on one of the FS1 shows this morning predicted Josh would win MVP... that they have to take into account total offense, total TDs, etc.. I can't see someone who didn't even get voted into the Pro-Bowl being given MVP. But then I didn't expect him to be nominated in the first place so who knows. Agree with those who are backing McCaffrey and (as much as I dislike him as a person) Hill. Lamar winning it would be a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 41 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: I'd probably go: CMC Hill Josh Lamar I agree, I don't think any qb really separated themselves from the pack by putting up huge numbers this season. CMC would get my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: If Lamar wins it will be the second time he has won it over Josh with half the stats. Does anyone actually buy Lamar as MVP? absolutely not. He's a fraud (again). At least in 2019 he was legit--he was their entire Offense. I never understood him as MVP weeks ago as a foregone conclusion. If he wins this year it will be as bad as Rodgers back to back in 2021 (over Kupp). Every part of Josh's game was better than Jackson's. Allen was also arguably more valuable to the Bills than Jackson to the Ravens. In the playoffs, Josh went down swinging, Lamar laid down and got his cazzo handed to him. Jordan Love is a more solid MVP candidate than Jackson. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 hours ago, LeGOATski said: I don't think I've ever watched it before. Will Josh Allen actually be there? I might watch the recording. He will show because he is a classy guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: If Lamar wins it will be the second time he has won it over Josh with half the stats. Does anyone actually buy Lamar as MVP? yeah anyone with half a brain can see that Josh is more valuable to Buffalo than Lamar is to the Ravens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Blackbeard said: I give him loads of credit, but he's no Allen. Allen can be a bully. No. No he’s not. Guess that’s why he’ll be playing in his fourth Superbowl this Sunday. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 11 minutes ago, RiotAct said: yeah anyone with half a brain can see that Josh is more valuable to Buffalo than Lamar is to the Ravens. I don't know how anyone can say this with any kind of certainty. Without Allen, the Bills don't win many games. Without Jackson, the Ravens don't win many games. The Ravens offense isn't that great. Dobbins was out. Their WR are very iffy. Andrews at TE is great, but he's hurt a lot. So a lot falls on Jackson' shoulders, just like Allen in Buffalo. I'm not disagreeing that Allen is worthy, but every fan thinks "their" guy is the most important guy in the league. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, 90sBills said: No. No he’s not. Guess that’s why he’ll be playing in his fourth Superbowl this Sunday. Go follow another team if youre gonna have a ***** attitude. Recall its a "team" sport. Flacco has won a sb. "Fans" like you truly are the worst. Go root for the dolphins. Edited February 7 by Blackbeard 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, cle23 said: I don't know how anyone can say this with any kind of certainty. Without Allen, the Bills don't win many games. Without Jackson, the Ravens don't win many games. The Ravens offense isn't that great. Dobbins was out. Their WR are very iffy. Andrews at TE is great, but he's hurt a lot. So a lot falls on Jackson' shoulders, just like Allen in Buffalo. I'm not disagreeing that Allen is worthy, but every fan thinks "their" guy is the most important guy in the league. Huntley ran the Ravens offense at the end of last year and was a fumble away from winning the wild card game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) REAL TIME IMAGE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES: 👇🏽 Edited February 7 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Blackbeard said: Go follow another team if youre gonna have a ***** attitude. Recall its a "team" sport. Flacco has won a sb. "Fans" like you truly are the worst. Go root for the dolphins. Bad day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: If Lamar wins it will be the second time he has won it over Josh with half the stats. Does anyone actually buy Lamar as MVP? Not sure about that but Josh almost lost it after the first game with the Jets, hard to honor him as MVP after that performance. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Use to watch it but don't anymore it's got to much political BS to stomach wasting that much time watching those few be blow hards I'd rather watch Barney Miller . I'll let y'all post about it and get my fill that way ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Meh, I could also see a lot of talking heads not being objective and making it political if Lamar doesn't win it... the endzone messages warned us of this! lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Out of habit they're giving the Super Bowl MVP this year to Lamar too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 hours ago, 90sBills said: No. No he’s not. Guess that’s why he’ll be playing in his fourth Superbowl this Sunday. I mean, I see your point about Mahomes as it's hard to argue he's not #1 now. But it is a team sport and personally I'm not a fan of judging players just by championships. Does Mahomes go to 4 super bowls without one of the greatest head coaches and tight ends of all time? Not too mention other hall of famers he has played with. (Hill, Chris jones) (And even an all time clutch DC in Spags) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 McCaffrey was the MVP this year imo Lamar doesn't even make the top 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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