Success Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Drafted Justin shorter could have had puca nacua! man I like brown Thomas and jalynn polk Nacua is one of those guys that a LOT of teams are wishing they hadn't passed on now. It happens. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 18 minutes ago, JDubya76 said: So far from all the videos I’ve seen I like Xavier Legette quite a bit and then Malachi Corley later on. I also like Jacob Cowing if we double dip. Yeah. Legette is 6'3" and 227# and runs in the 4.2s. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I’d rather read @GunnerBill’s analysis. Waiting patiently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 22 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I hear you bro… they need to get creative somehow … my thoughts are that other than moving up in the first a few spots for a WR if there is one they are in love with .. I’d be happy for them to take some shots with those Day 3 picks … they are losing 20 free agents this year so these guys can make the team this season …obviously they will be backups but cheap at least …. You prolly right that we can’t get into top 10 for WR. If I was GM I’d find a way, including next years first, but that’s why I’m not a GM. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B more B Rad Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 7 hours ago, Brand J said: Do NOT trade up. Whoever we take, I can just about guarantee a guy will go later who will be just as good or better. Happens every draft. Amen - we traded up for Sammy Watkins and six other better WRs went after that PO.. The good old Russ Brandon days.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I can’t get behind Mitchell, sorry we need speed and size and with the deep nature of this draft it’s perfectly reasonable to expect that we find somebody that fits that description. Just now, The Firebaugh Kid said: I can’t get behind Mitchell, sorry we need speed and size and with the deep nature of this draft it’s perfectly reasonable to expect that we find somebody that fits that description. Thomas, Legette, or Franklin. I would also love Worthy as quite honestly he looks faster than anybody I’ve watched. Again I still can’t believe nobody is talking about Malachi Corley he is phenomenal. played in a smaller program but he has the tape and the numbers to get me really excited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 9 minutes ago, B more B Rad said: Amen - we traded up for Sammy Watkins and six other better WRs went after that PO.. The good old Russ Brandon days.. As a GM, the only trade up I would do (in general) is for a QB. Maaaybe I would trade up for an athletic freak at DE, but all other positions? It’s proven they can be had anywhere in the draft, just gotta hit on the right guy and get lucky. We traded up for Elam when much better corners went later. Traded up for Kincaid (hated it at the time) and although that pick worked out, another player was drafted later who is at least on par with him. Traded up for Edmunds when Darius/Shaquille Leonard and Fred Warner were still on the board and in Warner’s case went much later. The draft is a lottery and if I were a GM, I’d try to stockpile the most 1-5th round picks I possibly could year after year. I’m not sacrificing those to move up, because in doing so I’d be sacrificing the chance to hit on a guy who could be a steal. Edited January 28 by Brand J 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 hours ago, Doc said: Yeah. Legette is 6'3" and 227# and runs in the 4.2s. Guy ain’t running in the 4.2s cmon people really going to believe this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Guy ain’t running in the 4.2s cmon people really going to believe this I'll take the 4.3s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 hours ago, aristocrat said: Drafted Justin shorter could have had puca nacua! man I like brown Thomas and jalynn polk We are awful at evaluating WR talent. We constantly pass on late round steals. Justin Shorter is not an NFL WR he just looks like one. Feel like Beane is like welp he kind of looks big and strong like Metcalf maybe he’s the same thing lol…just take really good WRs bro 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 15 hours ago, Doc said: Yeah. Legette is 6'3" and 227# and runs in the 4.2s. Officially 6’0.7” and I will be extremely shocked if he runs 4.2s. Probably late 4.4s or early 4.5s if he has a bad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 11 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Guy ain’t running in the 4.2s cmon people really going to believe this In 2016……he allegedly ran a 4.29 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 19 hours ago, starrymessenger said: At 28 the Bills are likely to have the opportunity to draft one of the premier boundary X receiver prospects with the desired traits. In my view more than one will be available there and the question will be which one to take assuming that's the direction the braintrust wants to go in. Thomas, Adonai Mitchell, Franklin, Leggett amongst the blue chip prospects could very well all be there. Some of those guys have already been mocked to the Bills. MHJ, Nabers, Odunze will almost certainly be off the board but loads of talent will remain. My thoughts exactly. Top three guys gone. Take any of the four mentioned - Thomas, Franklin, Mitchell, or Leggett - in whatever order the team prefers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: In 2016……he allegedly ran a 4.29 😂 In 2016? Was he 14? That just sounds like so long ago! We had never even heard of Covid back then. He must have been the fastest kid at recess! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 11 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Guy ain’t running in the 4.2s cmon people really going to believe this 26 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Officially 6’0.7” and I will be extremely shocked if he runs 4.2s. Probably late 4.4s or early 4.5s if he has a bad day. 22 minutes ago, NewEra said: In 2016……he allegedly ran a 4.29 😂 We'll see. He hit a top speed of 22.3 MPH in a game this past season (that would be 2023, not 2016...). That would make him tied for the 3rd fastest time in the NFL in the past 6 seasons. And his exact height and whether he can run in the 4.2s is less important than the point of getting a guy with decent size and great speed. Edited January 28 by Doc 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 10 minutes ago, Doc said: We'll see. He hit a top speed of 22.3 MPH in a game this past season. That would make him tied for the 3rd fastest time in the NFL in the past 6 seasons. And his exact height and whether he can run in the 4.2s is less important than the point of getting a guy with decent size and great speed. Yea I don't think he is going to run in the 4.2s but he is legitimately fast. He is more a build up speed guy so I don't think the 40 necessarily will showcase how fast he is. But he is going to run plenty fast enough to be legit size / speed prospect. I'm super high on him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 20 hours ago, mannc said: I can almost guarantee that Beane will trade up...probably only a few picks perhaps to 25 or 26, but he simply can't resist. And we're picking in a place where the WRs are really going to be coming off the board fast. KC will definitely be looking to move up... Exactly. I'm thinking trade #28 & Elam to the Eagles for #22. Their secondary is in shambles and it would be like a free option on a man corner with upside for them. Make sure KC doesn't pull another McDuffie leapfrog and get a WR ahead of us that's going to torture us for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 This is a great year to be going after receivers, I’m pretty excited to see how this plays out. There are gonna be some studs found outside round 1 too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Yea I don't think he is going to run in the 4.2s but he is legitimately fast. He is more a build up speed guy so I don't think the 40 necessarily will showcase how fast he is. But he is going to run plenty fast enough to be legit size / speed prospect. I'm super high on him. Im mostly interested in his 3 cone. Hes going to run fast in the 40 but I want to see how he does in that event 17 hours ago, Doc said: Yeah. Legette is 6'3" and 227# and runs in the 4.2s. https://x.com/TheHQNerd/status/1751607041318101153?s=20 Listed as 6’0 at the Senior bowl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Troy Franklin will be there. Would be a nice compliment to Diggs. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Yea I don't think he is going to run in the 4.2s but he is legitimately fast. He is more a build up speed guy so I don't think the 40 necessarily will showcase how fast he is. But he is going to run plenty fast enough to be legit size / speed prospect. I'm super high on him. When I read a post like this I am left confused. The word "he" is employed 5 times and then "him" once. But not once is the "he/him" defined or referred to so that reader can understand who is being discussed. I get that I could recycle back through two pages of conversations and solve this, but may one solid reference would be an aid to understanding. Edited January 28 by CNYfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 9 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Troy Franklin will be there. Would be a nice compliment to Diggs. I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 9 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Troy Franklin will be there. Would be a nice compliment to Diggs. Agree. But is Thomas Jr. is also there I think he would be a better fit. But either of these guys would be a home run for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Doc said: We'll see. He hit a top speed of 22.3 MPH in a game this past season (that would be 2023, not 2016...). That would make him tied for the 3rd fastest time in the NFL in the past 6 seasons. And his exact height and whether he can run in the 4.2s is less important than the point of getting a guy with decent size and great speed. The 4.29 people are talking about IS from 2016. That’s all I’m saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 23 minutes ago, DJB said: Im mostly interested in his 3 cone. Hes going to run fast in the 40 but I want to see how he does in that event https://x.com/TheHQNerd/status/1751607041318101153?s=20 Listed as 6’0 at the Senior bowl Yeah 3 cone will be interesting as well as VJ. And he's closer to 6'1". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 15 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Troy Franklin will be there. Would be a nice compliment to Diggs. Think he might jump up boards after the combine. He's clear #4 after the consensus top 3 to me 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 15 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Troy Franklin will be there. Would be a nice compliment to Diggs. I think it’s more like 50/50 that he’s there. If he runs low 4.3’s I don’t think he will be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, NewEra said: The 4.29 people are talking about IS from 2016. That’s all I’m saying. I actually read 4.22. But I was mostly talking about his 22.3 MPH last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 19 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: How have the DL workout? Wr's? Shakir? Pretty well. Oliver? Pretty well. Rousseau? Pretty well. Epinesa? Not bad. Then throw in guys like Torrence, Brown (yes he played well this year), Bernard, Benford, Jackson. i think you’ve been warned recently about trolling. This kind of stuff is why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 14 hours ago, Brand J said: As a GM, the only trade up I would do (in general) is for a QB. Maaaybe I would trade up for an athletic freak at DE, but all other positions? It’s proven they can be had anywhere in the draft, just gotta hit on the right guy and get lucky. We traded up for Elam when much better corners went later. Traded up for Kincaid (hated it at the time) and although that pick worked out, another player was drafted later who is at least on par with him. Traded up for Edmunds when Darius/Shaquille Leonard and Fred Warner were still on the board and in Warner’s case went much later. The draft is a lottery and if I were a GM, I’d try to stockpile the most 1-5th round picks I possibly could year after year. I’m not sacrificing those to move up, because in doing so I’d be sacrificing the chance to hit on a guy who could be a steal. Good post. The only move ups that I think make sense are putting 6-7 round picks together to get another 5. Rounds 1-5 are where the moneys at, so try to get as many of these as you can. And yes, I know Benford was a 6th round pick. But what other 6-7 round picks have the Bills made that were quality starters for the Bills in the last 5 years? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 21 hours ago, Brand J said: Do NOT trade up. Whoever we take, I can just about guarantee a guy will go later who will be just as good or better. Happens every draft. You would have to sedate Beane for most of the first round for that to happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 43 minutes ago, DJB said: Im mostly interested in his 3 cone. Hes going to run fast in the 40 but I want to see how he does in that event https://x.com/TheHQNerd/status/1751607041318101153?s=20 Listed as 6’0 at the Senior bowl I'd love it if he lost 3" at the Senior Bowl, the guy doesn't seem to have any problem elevating and high pointing the ball but if something can make it easier to get him by all means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 21 hours ago, Brand J said: Do NOT trade up. Whoever we take, I can just about guarantee a guy will go later who will be just as good or better. Happens every draft. The only trade I'd accept is to get Harrison lol. That would be a wild trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 19 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: We have 3 6th round picks, and most likely those guys (and our 7th) do not make the team. Package them for say a 3rd. The QUALITY of picks has to be great this year, the draft picks need to contribute very quickly. We need a WR to compete for #2 immediately and there may be guys in this draft that can do that. Who though? This is where I need to see Beane stay at 28 or move a couple of spots up and knock it out of the park at WR as he did with Kincaid. Those 3 6ths might get you to the top of the 5th round. The 2 5th rounders PLUS the 3 6ths might get an early 4th round pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maine-iac Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 If Beane really wants a WR he'd sign a top tier free agent or trade for one. None of our starting WR's (Diggs, Davis, or Shakir) were even drafted in the first 100 picks of a draft. One out of the top 5 pass catchers in this years regular season was drafted in the top 50. Three out of 4 were not even drafted in the top 100 picks. We're probably just as likely to get production from a guy we draft in the 2nd or 3rd round as someone we might draft at 28. I think with Shakir and Kincaid coming on last season Diggs might find his groove again. We can draft a guy in the 2nd or 3rd and bring them along. They can't be any worse then Sherfield and Harty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, Maine-iac said: If Beane really wants a WR he'd sign a top tier free agent or trade for one. None of our starting WR's (Diggs, Davis, or Shakir) were even drafted in the first 100 picks of a draft. One out of the top 5 pass catchers in this years regular season was drafted in the top 50. Three out of 4 were not even drafted in the top 100 picks. We're probably just as likely to get production from a guy we draft in the 2nd or 3rd round as someone we might draft at 28. I think with Shakir and Kincaid coming on last season Diggs might find his groove again. We can draft a guy in the 2nd or 3rd and bring them along. They can't be any worse then Sherfield and Harty. They are $40M over the cap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, DJB said: Im mostly interested in his 3 cone. Hes going to run fast in the 40 but I want to see how he does in that event Yea I think better than the other fast guys but agree it is key for him. 57 minutes ago, CNYfan said: When I read a post like this I am left confused. The word "he" is employed 5 times and then "him" once. But not once is the "he/him" defined or referred to so that reader can understand who is being discussed. I get that I could recycle back through two pages of conversations and solve this, but may one solid reference would be an aid to understanding. Sorry meant to quote the post I was referring to. Must have deleted the quote. Legette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Doc said: They are $40M over the cap. Everybody knows that means nothing. If it was Beane's goal to go out and get a #1 receiver he'd make it happen. I don't think it's happening but if it was he'd find a way. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 20 hours ago, Success said: It would be kind of fun if we went all in and traded up for MHJ. What or who is MHJ ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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