Hebert19 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Games stat line. 0. He needs to sit. He's a trash second. Tee higgins. Dominant. Waddle last week. Dominant. Gabe. *****. Start shakir and make sherfield 3. 3 14 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Diggs is elite. Kincaid can ball. Shakir is sneaky good and if you mask James Cooks weakness in pass protection the guy can get loose. The offensive line has held up pretty damn well this season. The QB also has gamebreaking talent. We’ve got the players to put up more than 18 points 3 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Toejam 34 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Sherfield is just as bad. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Defensive HC. next question please. #FireMcClap 4 1 1 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Kincaid is the WR2 now. But agree that the WR3 is still unclear… 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Beane added Sherfield and Harty and kept Davis as WR2. And at this juncture, those decisions allow every defense to simply double Diggs. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chugga said: Diggs is elite. Kincaid can ball. Shakir is sneaky good and if you mask James Cooks weakness in pass protection the guy can get loose. The offensive line has held up pretty damn well this season. The QB also has gamebreaking talent. We’ve got the players to put up more than 18 points Gabe sucks. The oline is far worse than you think. Tonight hardly anyone got separation. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Talent is there the scheme is not 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 DHop worth every penny. Just sayin 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 gabe 0 catches Let someone else overpay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Huh? We had Diggs and Kincaid tear it up, so now we want 3 guys as our #1 option? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Gabe sucks. The oline is far worse than you think. Tonight hardly anyone got separation. Agree to disagree. Well yeah Gabe does suck. But you can’t have 11 pro bowlers on offense. What we do have in house right now is good enough to score more than 18 on the bengals. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 We have not overcome losing Sanders, Brown and Beasley. I know they weren’t great but they seemed to get the job done and get open 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Said it since week 1, teams can double team diggs and Gabe has shown to be a below average separator and route runner, it's tough to win that way. I don't think Gabe is the sole reason we have lost games. But he's Definitely not contributing much in the losses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I think it’s a scheme issue tbh diggs kincaid Shakir cook is a better receiving group than most teams 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 This whole offense sucks right now. Look at the stats for the giants, patriots, Tampa and cinci. They are all mid to bottom and we can't score. What's that say about the Bills? It's says the problem is the whole freekin offense Not just Gabe. Ya want to only blame him, you're looking for low hanging fruit. This team stinks plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Sherfield doesn't understand space and finding open areas the way Josh needs him too. He was a mistake to sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 The sad part is that DeAndre Hopkins was available and wanted to be here. Beane could have made it work but he failed to push in his chips. So with Davis's semi-regular vanishing act, now we're stuck relying on a rookie to be our #2, and we saw tonight rookie mistakes can be forced by a veteran well coached defense. I like Beane overall but failing to even try and upgrade Davis for two straight offseasons now is a fireable offense IMO. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I found it int that on the last drive the Bills had, Gabe was out of the game for the majority of the snaps. He came back in on the Diggs TD but before that play it had been Shakir and Sherfield along with Diggs at WR. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 We don’t know if Elam was playing in Davis jersey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I figured when Milano went down that was it for the season, he's our best player on D and overcoming that with the other injuries is just too much. Our safeties are old AF, Rapp is terrible, Morse doesn't seem to look great this year, Davis is not a WR#2, he is a JAG... Dorsey and McD have ruined Allen this year - he is not just playing ball, they are in his head and slowing his decision making process down. It's easy to see when he can't decide if he should run or stay in the pocket. He doesn't trust the WRs besides Diggs and now Kincaid... I'm glad we kept our picks becuase we will need them, this team's best chance was seconds and this version of the Bills is over. Time to tear it down and reboot it. McD will stay, but I don't think he should. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The sad part is that DeAndre Hopkins was available and wanted to be here. Beane could have made it work but he failed to push in his chips. So with Davis's semi-regular vanishing act, now we're stuck relying on a rookie to be our #2, and we saw tonight rookie mistakes can be forced by a veteran well coached defense. I like Beane overall but failing to even try and upgrade Davis for two straight offseasons now is a fireable offense IMO. It’s all on the table as I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said: Said it since week 1, teams can double team diggs and Gabe has shown to be a below average separator and route runner, it's tough to win that way. I don't think Gabe is the sole reason we have lost games. But he's Definitely not contributing much in the losses Except one of Allen's two worst passes of the night was when Davis beat his man to the endzone. A better pass and Davis scores a TD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The sad part is that DeAndre Hopkins was available and wanted to be here. Beane could have made it work but he failed to push in his chips. So with Davis's semi-regular vanishing act, now we're stuck relying on a rookie to be our #2, and we saw tonight rookie mistakes can be forced by a veteran well coached defense. I like Beane overall but failing to even try and upgrade Davis for two straight offseasons now is a fireable offense IMO. Beane may easily have seen issues that concerned him and decided not to push the chips in, which looks to be the right call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Davis must have been totally shut down tonight by double coverage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Kincaid is the WR2 now. But agree that the WR3 is still unclear… And that is not a good thing. Not a hit on Kincaid. He is a solid TE but should not be your WR 2 or primary target. If teams can take away Diggs in exchange for a 5 yard pass to Kincaid they will do it all day. We are stupid enough to make that trade sadly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Except one of Allen's two worst passes of the night was when Davis beat his man to the endzone. A better pass and Davis scores a TD Ya he had some misses tonight. Again Gabe was far from the sole problem tonight, be he continues to show he's not a difference maker at wr2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Beane may easily have seen issues that concerned him and decided not to push the chips in, which looks to be the right call. Idiots. Idiots idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Except one of Allen's two worst passes of the night was when Davis beat his man to the endzone. A better pass and Davis scores a TD Pass could’ve had more touch, but Davis had a vertical of about 4 inches going for that ball. He’s not twitchy enough to get open, doesn’t have big catch radius, and his hands also aren’t the best. Other than that he’s good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Most of this game had nothing to do with the WR's. The Bengals were sitting on everything down the field and the underneath stuff was there. When Josh was taking it we moved the ball easily. When Josh was holding the ball and trying to force it into that coverage we looked like crap. Josh in many cases refuses to take what's there. When he finally started taking what was there was when we finally were able to get a shot into the end zone. Allen is a prize fighter who hates to use a jab and it's biting us in the butt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, Norcalbillsfan said: Ya he had some misses tonight. Again Gabe was far from the sole problem tonight, be he continues to show he's not a difference maker at wr2 I too would upgrade WR#2. But the offense is broken. Dorsey needs to go. Spencer Brown needs to go. Bates should move to Center and Morse needs to retire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Depth chart: 1) Diggs 2) Kincaid (who has the tools to become number one NFL tight end; give Beane credit on drafting him) 3) Shakir 4) Woods should be used as a WR/RB type. He's not a primary RB type. I don't see any room for Gabe Davis AND Dawson Knox here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I figured when Milano went down that was it for the season, he's our best player on D and overcoming that with the other injuries is just too much. Our safeties are old AF, Rapp is terrible, Morse doesn't seem to look great this year, Davis is not a WR#2, he is a JAG... Dorsey and McD have ruined Allen this year - he is not just playing ball, they are in his head and slowing his decision making process down. It's easy to see when he can't decide if he should run or stay in the pocket. He doesn't trust the WRs besides Diggs and now Kincaid... I'm glad we kept our picks becuase we will need them, this team's best chance was seconds and this version of the Bills is over. Time to tear it down and reboot it. McD will stay, but I don't think he should. His immediate trust in Kincaid and the success he’s having is the biggest indictment on Davis at the moment. I don’t think he looked at him after the INT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeLongBillsFan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I disagree - it’s not a wide receiver problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Weird because last week after Gabe had one of his occasional decent games,@Over 29 years of fanhood called me out and called me names for criticizing Gabes bad performance the week before after another 1 catch game. And just like I said, Gabe back to disappearing again the next week. Gabe now has 3 or less catches in 6 games this year, 4 of them he has 0-2 catches. This has been Gabe all 4 years he’s been in the league. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: We have not overcome losing Sanders, Brown and Beasley. I know they weren’t great but they seemed to get the job done and get open Beasley was great as a slot receiver. He was always open in clutch situations. Kincaid is him now. But we need a lot more from our WR’s. Gabe sucks. He is almost never open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, Airseven said: Beane added Sherfield and Harty and kept Davis as WR2. And at this juncture, those decisions allow every defense to simply double Diggs. Yeah, I said as much a couple of weeks ago. Dorsey and Allen are going to catch most of the blame, but aside from Diggs, I suspect that the WRs are more of the problem than is readily apparent. Just at face value, the dropoff in talent and experience over the last two seasons has been enormous, losing Beasley, Brown and Sanders. Davis is bordering upon a major disappointment. Shakir is looking pretty good, but he's not there yet. The rest aren't much. Kincaid is having an excellent rookie year, but he's not a WR, even if they use him in a similar role. Looking at the decline of that position group, I don't think it's a big surprise that the offense is struggling. As you say, if the D can take away Diggs, they're willing to take their chances with the others, and to this point, aside from an occasional big game out of Davis, that's been a pretty safe bet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Weird because last week after Gabe had one of his occasional decent games,@Over 29 years of fanhood called me out and called me names for criticizing Gabes bad performance the week before after another 1 catch game. And just like I said, Gabe back to disappearing again the next week. Gabe now has 3 or less catches in 6 games this year, 4 of them he has 0-2 catches. This has been Gabe all 4 years he’s been in the league. Agreed. I've been as supportive of Gabe Davis as anyone, but at this point, I've seen enough. It's too late for 2023, but they need more from WR2 and the depth guys next year. Shakir is playing pretty well, but that group needs a major overhaul for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, WMDman said: I think it’s a scheme issue tbh diggs kincaid Shakir cook is a better receiving group than most teams No it’s not. Every team has a Khalil Shakir. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 59 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The sad part is that DeAndre Hopkins was available and wanted to be here. Beane could have made it work but he failed to push in his chips. So with Davis's semi-regular vanishing act, now we're stuck relying on a rookie to be our #2, and we saw tonight rookie mistakes can be forced by a veteran well coached defense. I like Beane overall but failing to even try and upgrade Davis for two straight offseasons now is a fireable offense IMO. I actually get why he did nothing two off-seasons ago.After Davis’s playoff performance, I too thought he was on his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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