Kgun5 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Love McD’s new slogan of “Complimentary Football” and strategy of throwing Bass under the bus.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, Beast said: All day long the Bills blitzed, blitzed, blitzed. All day long, with I believe the exception of one time, the Bills got nowhere near the QB and Jones had a career day. McDermott kept it up and Mac ***** Jones of all QB’s made him pay. Not even mixing up the blitzes. Continually trying to come through the left tackle/guard spot. Just like the last drive last week. And, speaking of last week. Same scenario this week. The Giants attacked Johnson with a tight end and a decent throw beats the Bills. This week? Same thing. The Patriots attacked Johnson and won. Sean McDermott cost the Buffalo Bills a win today by sheer stupidity. Not stating the obvious to anyone here…our coaching staff is severely letting this team down. Well.. That late, completely telegraphed blitz on third and long with the Pats still out of FG range did not help much... That's for sure. I was screaming at the TV... NO!!! NO!!! And the Pats picked that blitz up easily... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 39 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. Blitzed way too much. Was a bad performance by McDermott. Blitzed and still could barely get a hand on Jones. This is not the same D-Line without Ed and Daq. No push up the middle whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, beebe said: For the last three years, you people complain because the Bills don't blitz enough. Now they blitz TOO much. Who’s you people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 40 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. Blitzed way too much. Was a bad performance by McDermott. One of the Bills critical problem areas on both sides of the ball is predictability. By its very nature this problem gets worse with time. All of the evidence is that McDermott either does not know this is a problem, or he can't fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I'm on board with a replacement. He and Beane had done fantastic job of turning this organization around, however, they hit their ceiling a couple years ago. We truly need an offensive head coach, we have Josh ***** Allen, how bad does the coaches have to be to not win with Josh Allen and Steff Diggs? Yeah they blow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Kgun5 said: Love McD’s new slogan of “Complimentary Football” and strategy of throwing Bass under the bus.. We only know one thing when McDermott speaks. Its not McDermott's fault. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Him or Dorsey one of them has to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 49 minutes ago, Beast said: All day long the Bills blitzed, blitzed, blitzed. All day long, with I believe the exception of one time, the Bills got nowhere near the QB and Jones had a career day. McDermott kept it up and Mac ***** Jones of all QB’s made him pay. Not even mixing up the blitzes. Continually trying to come through the left tackle/guard spot. Just like the last drive last week. And, speaking of last week. Same scenario this week. The Giants attacked Johnson with a tight end and a decent throw beats the Bills. This week? Same thing. The Patriots attacked Johnson and won. Sean McDermott cost the Buffalo Bills a win today by sheer stupidity. Not stating the obvious to anyone here…our coaching staff is severely letting this team down. Not saying you're not right with your assesment, but is it necessary to call McD "stupid"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: Not saying you're not right with your assesment, but is it necessary to call McD "stupid"? Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Stupid is as stupid does. McDermott isn't too smart. The culture buiding is over. We don't care anymore. Keep clapping man, we don't care. If Pegula want's a 500 or better coach that is a rah rah guy well....whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Him or Dorsey one of them has to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Wait, we can do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I was iffy after 13 secs. I definitely blamed him. Last year I gave a pass but didnt buy the "mentally exhausted" excuse for the team collapse. I am on board with dumping this entire staff now. They aint it. The defense sucks and has way too much cap tied to it for them to be this bad. They coached the special out of Josh trying to turn him into a QB that he isn't. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 That pass rush was perhaps the worst part. Looks like we are a blitzing almost every down and generated nearly 0 pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 50 minutes ago, Einstein said: There are a lot of execution issues, which fall on the shoulders of the players, but there are also plenty of coaching issues as well. How does the announcer see the poor slant leverage by Taron Johnson the previous play, but our coaches don’t? Belichick and Co saw it, and immediately took advantage of it. I will always credit McDermott for turning this franchise around. But there are so many deficiencies that show up on coaching. Bottom line is that McDermott has taken us as far as he can. He's just not a top flight coach. Great guy, and he will get credit for what he has done to turn the franchise around. But he is going to ruin that if Josh never gets a ring. Save him and this team by bringing in the staff that can close the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I was all about staying the course for a long time, but this coaching staff needs to go, we're to the eagles with Andy Reid territory now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: This thread at least makes me feel better. Everyone seems to be coming around to firing him. Those of us that have been saying that McDermott should be replaced for a few years now sure do feel vindicated. We can feel vindicated but it doesn’t mean anything is changing. I’ve come to expect no changes. They aren’t firing him this year and I don’t know if they would after next year going into a new stadium. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I personally have been done with McDermott after 13 secs. It was unforgivable to me. I think he peaked, along with Beane. It's time to move on while we still have Josh Allen and take a chance at winning it all. Our current staff is not doing that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. Blitzed way too much. Was a bad performance by McDermott. I think that may have been because the DTs are so poor and couldn’t generate any consistent interior pressure on their own. Jones crumbles when faced with good interior pressure, but at this moment the Bills don’t have any DTs capable of bringing it. Gotta blitz instead because you can’t let him just sit there. It’s not a great option, but the Bills are so talent deficient on D right now that they have to take risks. Edited October 22, 2023 by dave mcbride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I hate what they’re doing with Josh Allen the fact that they don’t allow him to run anymore takes away a third of his game We don’t want him running on run design place we want him to take a couple of looks reads and if it’s not there, take off this gets him in a rhythmm Dorsey is not it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 When a team comes out repeatedly flat especially against bad teams I blame the staff. 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I think that may have been because the DTs are so poor and couldn’t generate any consistent interior pressure on their own. Jones crumbles when faced with good interior pressure, but at this moment the Bills don’t have any DTs capable of bringing it. Gotta blitz instead because you can’t let him just sit there. It’s not a great option, but the Bills are so talent deficient on D right now that they have to take risks. We are getting nothing from our defense of tackles. Tim settle is not a one tech and should never be used as such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Not saying you're not right with your assesment, but is it necessary to call McD "stupid"? Any coach that allows Mac Jones to go 25-30 and a game winning 75 yard td drive, deserves it. Edited October 22, 2023 by Billsfan1972 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 In todays nfl, the game is designed for defenses to fail at the end. Yet the Bills keep investing in more defensive players, like all the DEs that were invisible today. Those investments are translating into a greatD that seals the win or is lock down at the end of a game. Over MCds whole tenure we have a top ranked D that rarely seems to win us a game. It’s always Allen that scores late to win it (or doesn’t and we lose). good grief invest in the offense. We have always had journeymen OL come and go. We get scrub WRs outside of Diggs. We were at our best when it was Diggs, Smoke, and Beasley. No *****! That’s 3 really good receivers. Coincidentally the RT we had at that time made the pro bowl. Wow! Better offensive players will result in a better offense in a league that only cares about offense!!!! thw Floyd signing has been pretty great but I still believe that money spent on a great WR2 would have resulted in maybe us being undefeated right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 42 minutes ago, QCity said: McD has losses to Zach Wilson and Mac Jones this season and we're not even out of October yet 🤡 And almost Tyrod Taylor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 This L was on McD. secondly, this L is on Allen for missing throws he needs to make. thirdly, this L is on Dorsey and the OL based on a terrible 1st half performance. Get Cook and Kincaid more involved and good things will come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 McD is a horrible game manager and play caller. Our current OC Dorsey wouldn’t even be employed in the NFL if not for the Bills. The only thing that would save this team is if Dorsey was fired and we traded for Adam’s 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I think that may have been because the DTs are so poor and couldn’t generate any consistent interior pressure on their own. Jones crumbles when faced with good interior pressure, but at this moment the Bills don’t have any DTs capable of bringing it. Gotta blitz instead because you can’t let him just sit there. It’s not a great option, but the Bills are so talent deficient on D right now that they have to take risks. Yea I understand that argument. Still not sure I totally buy it. That said, Brandon Beane deserves to face some tough questions because those three vet DTs that sucked so bad today - Phillips, Settle and Ford - are guys he has invested a reasonable amount in. In no other position do we have such highly paid depth. Edited October 22, 2023 by GunnerBill 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Despite everything, Josh had a stat line we would have killed for in the 2000’s. Awful game and guy still goes: 27/41 265, 2 passing TDs and one on the ground. And 1 stupid pick. Watching the skills of a not-getting-any-younger generational talent get wasted is sad. It’s truly sad. Refs? Meh. They suck for everyone. Injuries? You’ve got to be ***** kidding me. Every team has these. This fall from grace (aka the window SLAMMING shut) falls on the coaches. Whether that’s practice being a joke, or just awful play calling, or having the wrong guys in the right spot, we have successfully wasted some of the best years of a literal first ballot HOFer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Listened to his post game presser ... he has no answers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Other teams have injuries and don't just shart all over their fans like ours does. Cinci had no on st ol and rolled us last year. The giants and the pats were missing linemen, and we shoulda lost both games. I think mcd is a princess coach who needs every little precious thing going just his way (14 des suit up, hundred years old dbs get extensions, etc) for his precious system, but as soon as anything goes slightly sideways, it's a wrap. Not being adaptable and not being prepared are signs of a coach I don't want leading y team and pissing away Allen's prime 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, beebe said: For the last three years, you people complain because the Bills don't blitz enough. Now they blitz TOO much. True. Everyone was ready to dump Frazier for his mulish obsession with playing only cover 2 and not being aggressive. Now? “We should have just played cover 2 and made Mac Jones earn it” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I think fan expectations are often too lofty when it comes wins/losses. I understand that NFL teams lose games, often times to inferior opponents, but it’s how we lose that concerned me throughout the McD years. This team wins 38-0 one week, and gets annihilated at home 41-10 the next, or loses to the Jags 9-6. These aren’t the type of losses that Super Bowl teams suffer year after year. Our losses have been a series of embarrassments, flukes, coaching errors, player blunders, and freak performances from opponents. People reminisce about 2020, and 2021, but we also lost to the Colts at home 41-15, and lost to the Pats throwing three passes (or whatever it was). Something just seems off, and it doesn’t look like the stuff of champions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said: When a team comes out repeatedly flat especially against bad teams I blame the staff. I thought the offense would start off fast today because of 2 previous bad games. I was wrong. Not sure who to blame exactly but usually a coach gets canned because it's the easier option. I'm not proposing anything right now but it's not looking good. Quite frankly, they don't have one good reason to look this bad. No one on offense is hurt. Not one guy. Defense is a different story. Their best CB, their best LB, and their best run stopping DT all out but they should not have lost to Pats today. Pats have a bunch of guys hurt too. A terrible loss today. Gotta to hand it to McD - he loses games in mind numbing fawkin ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Allen turned it around. Not McDermott PREACH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 46 minutes ago, NewEra said: This L was on McD. secondly, this L is on Allen for missing throws he needs to make. thirdly, this L is on Dorsey and the OL based on a terrible 1st half performance. Get Cook and Kincaid more involved and good things will come. It was a total team loss. Drops, missed kicks, missed throws, missed tackles ... two weeks in a row I have come to the conclusion that our Bills are not a great football team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Hulka Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Einstein said: There are a lot of execution issues, which fall on the shoulders of the players, but there are also plenty of coaching issues as well. How does the announcer see the poor slant leverage by Taron Johnson the previous play, but our coaches don’t? Belichick and Co saw it, and immediately took advantage of it. I will always credit McDermott for turning this franchise around. But there are so many deficiencies that show up on coaching. "There are a lot of execution issues,..." Then simplify the execution, or change the personnel to those whoo can execute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Beast said: All day long the Bills blitzed, blitzed, blitzed. All day long, with I believe the exception of one time, the Bills got nowhere near the QB and Jones had a career day. McDermott kept it up and Mac ***** Jones of all QB’s made him pay. Not even mixing up the blitzes. Continually trying to come through the left tackle/guard spot. Just like the last drive last week. And, speaking of last week. Same scenario this week. The Giants attacked Johnson with a tight end and a decent throw beats the Bills. This week? Same thing. The Patriots attacked Johnson and won. Sean McDermott cost the Buffalo Bills a win today by sheer stupidity. Not stating the obvious to anyone here…our coaching staff is severely letting this team down. Sean McDermott knows Benford and Jackson can’t hold up in coverage as they aren’t Sauce Gardener and not allowed to mug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Allen turned it around. Not McDermott Allen was not here in 2017. You are completely, utterly wrong. Edited October 22, 2023 by Roundybout 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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