Joe Ferguson Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 He may not be as quick as Milano but he's a smart veteran and already knows Bills defensive plays. There's a reason he is kept in the PS. He will shine in the starting lineup. 4 2 2 3 4 4 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 No thanks, let Dorian Williams take his lumps in the easier part of the schedule and get him up to speed. 8 30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Joe Ferguson said: He may not be as quick as Milano but he's a smart veteran and already knows Bills defensive plays. There's a reason he is kept in the PS. He will shine in the starting lineup. With Jones out we will need all the help we can get against the run.. Klein’s strength. wont help much in pass coverage, though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Toledo Bill said: With Jones out we will need all the help we can get against the run.. Klein’s strength. wont help much in pass coverage, though  Poona Ford is a run stuffing/space eating 1T. What we lose with Poona vs Daquan is Jones pass rush ability. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Dude has been in the league for 11 years. I don't think he was holding anything back for 10 seasons just waiting for his moment to "shine" in year 11. All you can hope for is an adequate stop-gap that won't win or lose the Bills games. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I was really hoping we wouldn't have an "it's time for AJ Klein to shine" thread at any point this season.... Â 1 2 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, SCBills said:  Poona Ford is a run stuffing/space eating 1T. What we lose with Poona vs Daquan is Jones pass rush ability.  Ford is 4 years younger and at the same point in his first five seasons he has more sacks and nearly twice the TFLs and QBHits in fewer starts.   Jones had a great start with us, but like the past two seasons, we've started strong and if the pattern held, the D would have cooled off some.   Same for Jones, it's unlikely that his 10 season was the charm for him at 32 to shatter any prior season's best.   While we didn't play our best on Sunday, it's also quite possible and likely that opposing offensive coordinators have started to figure McD's D out.    Edited October 9, 2023 by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 It's official. We're F****d! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Dorian Williams time! Klein should be added to the active roster, but he should be the backup. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Yeah...ummmm...I think your expectations are a tad high on this one. Â Glad he is here for depth, but hoping he will go out there and shine suddenly after over a decade in the league feels like a reach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yeah...ummmm...I think your expectations are a tad high on this one.  Glad he is here for depth, but hoping he will go out there and shine suddenly after over a decade in the league feels like a reach  He's a very average player on a good day. Not sure that sacrificing the development of Williams/Dodson is a worthwhile exchange.    1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Takeo Spikes interested in unretiring? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Nope. Let Williams play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I'm hearing AJ Klein time and Dorian Williams time  ...why not T-Dot time? He actually played very well after filling in for Milano/Dorian... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) One way or another we'll find out whether drafting Williams was a good use of a draft pick.    BTW, how long is Jones out for? I can't imagine more than a few weeks.  I mean honestly, if we need A-Team D to beat the next three teams on our schedule then we have much bigger problems than anyone realizes.  Two of 'em are the two lowest scoring teams in the league, the third is 8th lowest scoring, all in the bottom quartile.   That takes us through October.    Edited October 9, 2023 by PBF81 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: No thanks, let Dorian Williams take his lumps in the easier part of the schedule and get him up to speed. Yup, I'm ready to see what the kids can do. Sink or swim. Hopefully no one else goes down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I'd rather they roll with Dorian and Bernard for the majority.  Would rather have Klein instead of Dotson, though. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, PBF81 said:  Ford is 4 years younger and at the same point in his first five seasons he has more sacks and nearly twice the TFLs and QBHits in fewer starts.   Jones had a great start with us, but like the past two seasons, we've started strong and if the pattern held, the D would have cooled off some.   Same for Jones, it's unlikely that his 10 season was the charm for him at 32 to shatter any prior season's best.   While we didn't play our best on Sunday, it's also quite possible and likely that opposing offensive coordinators have started to figure McD's D out.    Definitely am intrigued by Poona Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, MJS said: Dorian Williams time! Klein should be added to the active roster, but he should be the backup. Reasonable. Â I'd rather have Klein than Dodson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Toledo Bill said: With Jones out we will need all the help we can get against the run.. Klein’s strength. wont help much in pass coverage, though klein at will, rapp in at hybrid/heavy nickel. we can have rapp in with johnson and run a 3-3-5. rapp can be the sam, klein at will, and bernard at mike. this can allow rapp to go up against te's or slots while we bring klein up to the line.  basically, we need rapp to now play aztec.  liability is not having good edge setters. lawson can set an edge on the weakside, groot, philips, and ford on the inside, with miller on strongside smart enough to protect rapp. found this quick  browsed it, looks reasonable to help understand what we can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Reasonable. Â I'd rather have Klein than Dodson. I'll be honest. Klein is just washed. Too old and too slow to be of much benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, MJS said: I'll be honest. Klein is just washed. Too old and too slow to be of much benefit. I feel he's a good back-up player that can still get the job done, I have no delusions that he is an All-Pro. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 If Dorian Williams has learned the defense well enough and is comfortable playing without having to think too much on the field, he would seem to be the obvious starter in Milano's place. He's a hair bigger and even faster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Maybe one of the "silver linings" here is this defense is no stranger to playing without Milano. He does have a history of missing games unfortunately. And although he was definitely missed, we were still able to hang with our tougher opponents and usually win, as I recall. Same thing can be said for Tre White. We basically haven't had him for 2 years especially when you consider he was a shell of himself last season. Over the past 2 years, we only played with "good" Tre White for 2-3 games. So, I can talk myself into believing we can overcome these injuries, but the problem is it's only Week 5... who is to say there isn't more to come... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023  Will be interesting to see what roster adjustments they make. Kline will most likely be elevated from the practice squad to be available for backup duty I would guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Definitely am intrigued by Poona Ford.  Agreed  I don't envision the drop from Jones to him being all that much of a difference, who knows, it may be a positive. Either way, it's far from the drop from White to Elam or Milano to whomever.    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 One of your best Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 That glossy reflection isn’t shine…. It’s tiger balm. Old guys need to slather it on just to make it out of bed in the morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I still recall when the first half of the season, Klein looked like a wounded duck is space and a liability. Then the Bills used him as a run stopper and blitzer and looked great! He had mad closing skills to tackle. It was night and day. He likely has lost some speed since, but he can used well. Not same role as Milano. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 pretty sure its going to be D Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Definitely am intrigued by Poona Ford.  I've seen so many people talk up Poona Ford as Jones replacement. That's not happening.  He's been a healthy scratch all year. He may be active now, but he'll be behind Jordan Phillips and Tim Settle. Hell, we had Kendall Vickers active on Sunday and not Poona Ford.  Like Elam, Ford's not going from the doghouse to the penthouse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:  I've seen so many people talk up Poona Ford as Jones replacement. That's not happening.  He's been a healthy scratch all year. He may be active now, but he'll be behind Jordan Phillips and Tim Settle. Hell, we had Kendall Vickers active on Sunday and not Poona Ford.  Like Elam, Ford's not going from the doghouse to the penthouse. Unfortunately I agree… but Settle doesn’t excite me either …  To me … this is a bigger need to go to the market for a replacement then CB or LB .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Unfortunately I agree… but Settle doesn’t excite me either …  To me … this is a bigger need to go to the market for a replacement then CB or LB .. Settle has been disappointing after all of the hype we were hearing about him when he signed here. I was expecting him to perform at the level Jones was.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 hours ago, BobBelcher said: I'm hearing AJ Klein time and Dorian Williams time  ...why not T-Dot time? He actually played very well after filling in for Milano/Dorian... I agree Dodson wasn't horrible yesterday. He definitely in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 AJ Klein It's time to shine Maybe in your world Not in mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said: He may not be as quick as Milano but he's a smart veteran and already knows Bills defensive plays. There's a reason he is kept in the PS. He will shine in the starting lineup. Maybe as a backup, Â but he has no business starting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: AJ Klein It's time to shine Maybe in your world Not in mine It's time for AJ to shine Season is not too late For him to participate He'll tacke and he'll take the ball From a Mahomes pass and win it all. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Success said: I was really hoping we wouldn't have an "it's time for AJ Klein to shine" thread at any point this season....  Not to worry, whatever Kline can’t handle I’m sure Josh Norman will be right there to clean it up…just as soon as he returns back to earth from that stiff arm… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 People don’t like to hear this, but Dorian Williams is the right play right now. Klein is not an outside linebacker. He’s a middle and there’s no way that we should take our current middle linebacker off the field.  Dorien Williams will get it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I want Dorian Williams to play his way into being good along with Kaiir Elam. They will f up a lot, but that doesn’t bother me being they are the two youngsters on this aging geezer like roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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