ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 They need to use Klein downhill as much as possible and get him rushing the passer. In 2020 he had 5 sacks and 2 FF in a part time role. Just keep him out of coverage if they can. He does know this defense as well any veteran on this roster so we know he’s going to be in the right place more often than not. I’m cautiously optimistic. We’ve played without Milano before and thrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Im not sure what you’re complaining about. As a longtime Bills fan, I’d love to see AJ playing against SF this year. If we rely on AJ Kline during regular season over developing our young talent they will not accomplish their goals in thr playoffs. It’s that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, BananaB said: Winning don’t matter if you lose in the playoffs. We know we’re gonna win games, especially with a few weak teams coming up. You want to improve as the season goes on and be your best in the playoffs. You think Klein is gonna be our best option when we face teams like KC, SF and Philly? Lmao! It’s an option but it’s gonna be frustrating to watch It depends on defense they design. In playoff game against Ravens Leslie Frazier It designed defense to contain and frustrate Lemar Jackson. Trent Murphy (who had been inactive for last few games and many, many posters on this board were suggesting he be cut) was used to contain him but not rush him since when that is done he usually escapes and creates a long play. He was kept in pocket on that side of field and threat neutralized. Other teams who had players capable of running this defense copied it. It is clownish to insist that players which have not shown anything are solution just because they are younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Limeaid said: It depends on defense they design. In playoff game against Ravens Leslie Frazier It designed defense to contain and frustrate Lemar Jackson. Trent Murphy (who had been inactive for last few games and many, many posters on this board were suggesting he be cut) was used to contain him but not rush him since when that is done he usually escapes and creates a long play. He was kept in pocket on that side of field and threat neutralized. Other teams who had players capable of running this defense copied it. It is clownish to insist that players which have not shown anything are solution just because they are younger. I’m not saying the younger guy is the solution, I’m saying his potential to help this tram get better so we should put him on the field so he can reach that potential faster. If he doesn’t get it you can go back to Kline, he isn’t going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 AJ Klein will shine tonight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson said: AJ Klein will shine tonight he should have never been cut. The evaluations of this staff once again should be questioned. Far superior LB to Dodson 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I want to see Bernard and D. Williams play all night. But if the coach insists on wasting everyone’s time with Dodson, then I’d prefer Klein. I’m cool with Klein and Bernard. Just no Dodson…none. That dude is a STs only guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 2:00 PM, Your Brown Eye said: Dude has been in the league for 11 years. I don't think he was holding anything back for 10 seasons just waiting for his moment to "shine" in year 11. All you can hope for is an adequate stop-gap that won't win or lose the Bills games. 🤣😂🤣 You're not playing properly here. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Klein doesn't shine. He hangs on for dear life. Not his fault. He only has the talent to be a depth player. The Bills are hoping Dorian Williams will continue climbing his learning curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: he should have never been cut. The evaluations of this staff once again should be questioned. Far superior LB to Dodson Said this last year and i was bitched at Said it was a mistake to cut him. Mocked Said we made a mistake not signing him when Baltimore did and we needed him. Laughed at. Said it was a mistake we didn't try to trade for a LB including Klein when he was sent to the Bears because we needed help. Criticized. Said when he was signed we needed him to be in the lockerroom, and ready to go. We know his floor. We know his ceiling. Spectar aint it. Dobson is struggling. Williams is a rogue undisciplined youngster. Klein can take hits for us tonight when we need the win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 AJ Klein will bring it today. Along with Queen Isabella. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said: AJ Klein will bring it today. Along with Queen Isabella. Klein did !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Klein deserves a game ball too. He literally has played with hardly any practices under his belt. Impressive. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Even Coach Bill Cowler commented on it on CBS post game show. Most tackles for Bills (7 tackles, 4 assists) and he did not play entire game. He just seemed to be where he was needed. https://static.www.nfl.com/gamecenter/85495b4f-add1-11ee-aec3-7d8f81bc70be.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 AJ Klein led the team in tackles. He's going to shut down Kelce next. Just watch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Very impressive by Klein. Dude obviously stayed in shape and mentally sharp during his non-selection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 always seems to step up when asked to fill in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I'm to lazy to check. Didnt Klein start against KC in the past and did well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 If Bernard is out next week which good chance he is, think I'd give Klein the green dot on the helmet next week as he has the experience for the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 8/1/2023 at 8:04 AM, Sierra Foothills said: IMO Klein has never been a below average LB. There are limitations to his game that the team masks well but also, that he more than makes up for in other aspects of his game. The thing I simply can't wrap my head around is Dodson starting. I thought he looked lost last year and it was his 3rd year in the system. Maybe I'm wrong and the difference between him succeeding and failing is less than I think. A few months before this revived topic I posted the above about AJ Klein. Yes, this is a look at me, I was right post. Sue me. I loved that tackle on Najee Harris... the one that looked like he was steer wrestling. I'm glad McDermott understands how to play to the strengths of his players and doesn't simply discard them as unfit for his scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: A few months before this revived topic I posted the above about AJ Klein. Yes, this is a look at me, I was right post. Sue me. I loved that tackle on Najee Harris... the one that looked like he was steer wrestling. I'm glad McDermott understands how to play to the strengths of his players and doesn't simply discard them as unfit for his scheme. Exactly. The defense was changed with Klein being in there and he was making calls for the defense. I am looking forward to Baldy's review of the game. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 12 hours ago, letsgoteam said: I'm to lazy to check. Didnt Klein start against KC in the past and did well? I'm going to be a little less lazy than you... 2016 - Panthers vs Chiefs 2020 - Chiefs at Bills (regular season) 2020 - Bills at Chiefs (playoffs) 2021 - Bills at Chiefs (regular season) 2021 - Bills at Chiefs (playoffs) Someone else now can dig into how he may have done in each of those games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 13 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said: AJ Klein led the team in tackles. He's going to shut down Kelce next. Just watch. I know Kelce has lost a step, but...hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 He knows whats at stake and he's going to leave it on the field. Can't ask for much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, Just Jack said: - I'm going to be a little less lazy than you... 2016 - Panthers vs Chiefs 2020 - Chiefs at Bills (regular season) 2020 - Bills at Chiefs (playoffs) 2021 - Bills at Chiefs (regular season) 2021 - Bills at Chiefs (playoffs) Someone else now can dig into how he may have done in each of those games. So I dont think this paints the complete picture, but here we go! I will omit 2016 (good grief that's a long time ago haha) Oct 19th 2020 (L 17-26): Klein is filling in for Milano and has 88% of DEF SNAPS: (7 tackles, 1 FF) (Tgt 4 times, only 1 completion allowed, 0 Passes Deflected) Jan 24th 2021 (L 38-24): Klein gets 7 Def Snaps (no stats), (a missed tackle somewhere either D or ST) Oct 10th 2021 (W 38-20): Klein again in for Milano and has 63% of DEF SNAPS: (9 tackles) (Tgt 8 times, 6 completions, 0 Pass Def) 13 Seconds: NO defensive snaps I'm not sure what to make of it, the one game they get 6 completions off of him, the team wins by 18, so who knows if that includes some garbage time catches? Just pure eye balls, he seems to play hard, but doesnt have the twitch like the others. However it seems like AJ also knows this too and (again going off memory) probably plays very fundamentally sound. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 minutes ago, letsgoteam said: I'm not sure what to make of it, the one game they get 6 completions off of him, the team wins by 18, so who knows if that includes some garbage time catches? Just pure eye balls, he seems to play hard, but doesnt have the twitch like the others. However it seems like AJ also knows this too and (again going off memory) probably plays very fundamentally sound. I think someone will need to actually re-watch those games, to actually see how he did, instead of just relying on stat lines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, letsgoteam said: So I dont think this paints the complete picture, but here we go! I will omit 2016 (good grief that's a long time ago haha) Oct 19th 2020 (L 17-26): Klein is filling in for Milano and has 88% of DEF SNAPS: (7 tackles, 1 FF) (Tgt 4 times, only 1 completion allowed, 0 Passes Deflected) Jan 24th 2021 (L 38-24): Klein gets 7 Def Snaps (no stats), (a missed tackle somewhere either D or ST) Oct 10th 2021 (W 38-20): Klein again in for Milano and has 63% of DEF SNAPS: (9 tackles) (Tgt 8 times, 6 completions, 0 Pass Def) 13 Seconds: NO defensive snaps I'm not sure what to make of it, the one game they get 6 completions off of him, the team wins by 18, so who knows if that includes some garbage time catches? Just pure eye balls, he seems to play hard, but doesnt have the twitch like the others. However it seems like AJ also knows this too and (again going off memory) probably plays very fundamentally sound. I'm not an X's and O's guy, but what I remember of Klein in relief of Milano, possibly going back to 2020, was initially they tried to have him fill Milano's role, which went terribly because Milano is so much more athletic. Eventually, they took more advantage of his run stopping ability and changed up the way they utilized him and his instincts and the defense was much improved for it. I think if we get some DBs back and were able to utilize Klien's instincts and Williams's athleticism, as we did last night, the defense would be passable. I would worry about a combination of, say, Klein and Spector, because I think they are similar players and we'd lack for athleticism. I feel like part of the reason Dodson has done as well as he has in relief of Milano was because he was paired with Bernard's athleticism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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