The 9 Isles Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 What would you do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 If Dorsey doesn't evolve over the season, you definitely bring back Daboll or just fire Dorsey and hire someone else. While there have been some good things has done the past 2 weeks, there are still too many debacles like throwing it on 4th and inches when your QB is Josh Allen and him sneaking the ball on 4th and inches is without question going to have the highest success rate by a mile over any other play they can call. 5 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Where’s option C, get somebody else? 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: If Dorsey doesn't evolve over the season, you definitely bring back Daboll or just fire Dorsey and hire someone else. While there have been some good things has done the past 2 weeks, there are still too many debacles like throwing it on 4th and inches when your QB is Josh Allen and him sneaking the ball on 4th and inches is without question going to have the highest success rate by a mile over any other play they can call. Daboll had a bunch of these boneheaded calls too, which is why I didn't like him much either. Personally, I don't mind Daboll as OC but I think if we do anything we should hire a different OC and change up this predictable offense some. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Where’s option C, get somebody else? You have applied on-line, haven’t you??? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Just now, Augie said: You have applied on-line, haven’t you??? All I know is McD called McDaniel’s scheme “revolutionary” in the presser today. He’s scheming all sorts of creative ways to get guys the ball, a lot of misdirection, sleight of hand, magical stuff. No one is calling the Bills offense revolutionary or innovative. I think they could be so much more and I’m not a Dorsey hater. BUT it is extremely tough finding that guy who is a schematic genius. Panthers thought Joe Brady was one, now he’s in Buffalo as a QB’s coach after his failure. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I think people forget how maddening Daboll could be at times. Abandoning the run game. All the cute calls. Nah, that ship has sailed IMO. If Dorsey were to move on for some reason I would want someone else that can teach Josh and the offense things they haven't learned. New perspective. 7 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Why? This is dumb 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Whoever they bring in will still be blamed every time they lose a game 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 No, I don’t think you can create a Vance Joseph situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I think people forget how maddening Daboll could be at times. Abandoning the run game. All the cute calls. Nah, that ship has sailed IMO. If Dorsey were to move on for some reason I would want someone else that can teach Josh and the offense things they haven't learned. New perspective. I think Dorsey is figuring some things out for himself still. Unsure if he’s ever going to be “the man”. But there are some things I like about this offense that I found frustrating under Daboll. For all the “Josh can’t do it all” Daboll asked Josh to…well…it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I like Daboll as an OC more than Dorsey, so I choose that, although I don't think this is a realistic scenario and I also might prefer a third option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, The 9 Isles said: What would you do? I would love to bring Daboll back, but realistically I can't see McBeane disrespecting Dorsey like that. Imho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 After the 1st 3 words, I instantly thought "yes!" So, there ya go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) I am amazed at how some still continue to blame Dorsey for everything from inflation to the war in the Ukraine. In the past, I have posted links comparing the Bills offense in 2022 under Dorsey v. 2021 under Daboll. To those who take every opportunity to whinge about Dorsey, you can look it up yourselves. Edited September 26, 2023 by Peter 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 40 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: If Dorsey doesn't evolve over the season, you definitely bring back Daboll or just fire Dorsey and hire someone else. While there have been some good things has done the past 2 weeks, there are still too many debacles like throwing it on 4th and inches when your QB is Josh Allen and him sneaking the ball on 4th and inches is without question going to have the highest success rate by a mile over any other play they can call. Dorsey's questionable decision making forces the offense to work harder than it should. The little motion he does call just doesn't create mismatches. The gadget sweeps to Harty have been worthless. And our personnel does not excel at YAC, so why so many throws behind the LOS. Daboll wasn't perfect but he was more creative than KD. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I don't want to wish bad on the guy and realistically they probably give Daboll another year anyway, but if he doesn't how about we think positive and think there will be a spot open for him when a team takes Dorsey off our hands after we win it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I would not bring Daboll back. He is a phenomenal coach imo but the best move he made was bringing Kafka in to call plays over there. I was done with Dabolls playcalling and I would not enjoy seeing it return, I just wasn’t a fan. It’s no knock on him, I think he’s very intelligent at designing plays and building a playbook around his playmakers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Nah I throw the brinks truck at Ben Johnson the OC of Detroit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Nah I throw the brinks truck at Ben Johnson the OC of Detroit hes going to be an HC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Nah I throw the brinks truck at Ben Johnson the OC of Detroit He’s not gonna be a coordinator for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: hes going to be an HC Id throw McDermott overboard for the guy 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: Id throw McDermott overboard for the guy yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, Mango said: I think Dorsey is figuring some things out for himself still. Unsure if he’s ever going to be “the man”. But there are some things I like about this offense that I found frustrating under Daboll. For all the “Josh can’t do it all” Daboll asked Josh to…well…it all. And without Barkley last week he abandoned the run very early and asked Daniel Jones to do it all. He's learned nothing. I think Dorsey one day will be a fine Coordinator. I have no issues with him. I just never thought taking over a top contending team that was on the cusp of Super Bowls is the best thing for any 1st time OC/DC. Too much pressure to "win now" rather than learn OTJ. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I’m fine with Daboll but I want someone who is very familiar with the Niners Shanahan offense. Mike McDaniel worked 5 years under Shanahan and his offense is the same . Guys always open and RAC. Guys are constantly schemed open we need that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 It seems he had an issue with McD so the second part of the hypothetical is unlikely. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Daboll would never come back 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Nah I throw the brinks truck at Ben Johnson the OC of Detroit 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: hes going to be an HC 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Id throw McDermott overboard for the guy Ahh yes the hot coordinator name. He's so much better than Dorsey and of course he's much better than mcd as a head coach even though he's never done it. Oh wait.... the bills average more yards per game, more rushing yards per game, and more points per game (by a full touchdown). Buffalo is 2nd in points and Detroit is 13th! That's the guy we should throw the winningest coach in teams history overboard for?! Strong I've heard of him energy with these posts.... 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, section122 said: Ahh yes the hot coordinator name. He's so much better than Dorsey and of course he's much better than mcd as a head coach even though he's never done it. Oh wait.... the bills average more yards per game, more rushing yards per game, and more points per game (by a full touchdown). Buffalo is 2nd in points and Detroit is 13th! That's the guy we should throw the winningest coach in teams history overboard for?! Strong I've heard of him energy with these posts.... He's been next man up for over a year now, can't help it if you're just now hearing of him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, section122 said: Ahh yes the hot coordinator name. He's so much better than Dorsey and of course he's much better than mcd as a head coach even though he's never done it. Oh wait.... the bills average more yards per game, more rushing yards per game, and more points per game (by a full touchdown). Buffalo is 2nd in points and Detroit is 13th! That's the guy we should throw the winningest coach in teams history overboard for?! Strong I've heard of him energy with these posts.... Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Is this a 'Daboll on the hotseat' thread? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Bring him back home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) Are we just forgetting the BB convo and the rumblings about how he wanted out? Assuming it was over a rift in philosophy, it seems pretty presumptuous that he'd just tuck tail and come back to a situation that may not have been tenable for the long haul anyway. Also, like another poster said, half this board was champing at the bit to fire him. 6 plays went by w/o a run and it was like the world was on fire. But hey, the grass is always greener- am I right?! Edited September 26, 2023 by gobills1212 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Voted to keep Dorsey. Even after the 💩 show Allen pulled vs the Jets, we’re still 2nd in the league in points per game. Good job,Dorsey! Who was 2nd in the league last season in points per game? Yep, Dorsey’s offense. Not Allen’s, Dorsey’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: He's been next man up for over a year now, can't help it if you're just now hearing of him Oh ive heard of him but please enlighten me why you are so convinced he will be a great hc? Remember jim bob cooter? He was once a hot oc for the lions that was gonna be the next big thing. Perbaps it was the 14 points johnsons offense put up against kc that convinced you he is better than mcd? Again please tell me what about his ability to lead a team says we should toss the best coach in team history overboard? Dorsey outperformed him last year and is doing so again this year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Why are people rooting for our offensive coordinator to fail? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Augie said: You have applied on-line, haven’t you??? Lots of guys on this board could do a much better job than either Dorsey or Daboll. If you don't believe me, just ask them. Edited September 26, 2023 by Dan Darragh 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I don't think Daboll is getting fired after this season. The over achievement last year will buy him and Joe some patience. My concern for them is their draft selections so far do not look great. But if they suck this year they will get their shot at a QB next year. In the event Dabes were fired I'd bring him back in some role if he was up for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Not only do you bring back Daboll, make him the HC. You all are out of your mind if you didn’t want him back in WNY. Zero chance he gets fired tho so this is a mute point. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 6 hours ago, section122 said: Oh ive heard of him but please enlighten me why you are so convinced he will be a great hc? Remember jim bob cooter? He was once a hot oc for the lions that was gonna be the next big thing. Perbaps it was the 14 points johnsons offense put up against kc that convinced you he is better than mcd? Again please tell me what about his ability to lead a team says we should toss the best coach in team history overboard? Dorsey outperformed him last year and is doing so again this year.... In fairness he didn't say he would be better than McDermott. I do think Johnson has a chance to be a good Head Coach. The reason is when I look at that Detroit offense apart from St Brown and the offensive line they are not super talented. He gets the best out of his talent. Knows what they are and what they are not. Their passing game is simple beyond belief. It is almost Greg Roman like. All his creativity is in the run game..... using what he has. 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Why are people rooting for our offensive coordinator to fail? I thought Dorsey did a really good job weeks 1 and 2. Less so this past week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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