PayDaBill$ Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, RyanC883 said: typical Bills blown game. 1. Bad coaching. 2. JA awful (can he throw to anyone but Diggs on mid range routes?) 3. Awful officiating in 4th and missed call in OT—but McD will say nothing and change nothing about the game. Officials had ZERO to do with this loss. Seriously. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 We aren’t going anywhere this year. No way this Bills team beats the power house teams. McD is a horrible play caller on defense and our offensive play calling is baffling. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: A loss will do this team some good. And we told you Ken Dorsey sucks. Maybe you all will listen this time? Seems like Daboll isn't much better where is the next Mike mcdaniels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aireskoi Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Diggs lined up on Sauce Gardner's side until the final drive from what I could see. Why would they intentionally do that when they could line Diggs anywhere, and had all Summer to game plan for this? Somehow Troy Aikman knew that Gardner doesn't follow the #1 WR to the offensive left side or slot, but the game plan didn't move Diggs away from him till the end? What am I missing here? 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Mopreme said: I am sure there will be some stupid fans greeting them at the airport tonight. NO one should show. NO one. That might wake them TF up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, MPT said: The first two were just punts. The third was a desperate pass on a called low percentage out route. The fumble was just a result of what happens when you give your QB impossible tasks for 3 hours straight. True, but those impossible tasks are exactly what I think hinders him from become a more mature QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: If we would have lost with Rodgers playing, fine. This loss is inexcusable and frankly embarrassing. Sure you can throw the "it's week 1" crud out there...but 4th play of the game Rodgers goes out and ALL the air is out of that stadium. Buffalo kept them in the game. Josh looked awful. Literally worst case scenario way to open the season without it being injury related for the Bills. Inexcusable. Yeah, I need sleep, have a headache now, and don't know what to think. I thought that our offense would be a lot more creative, but again, the opponent out-adjusted us at the half. I'm incredibly disappointed in our offense, Allen of course, but also the lack of creativity in the 2nd half. ... or OT with the game on the line for that matter. For me it's not so much the loss per se, but just as with the playoffs, it's how we lose. And let's face it, our D played well OK, but the Jets' OL isn't good, bottom 10 for sure. And way too many big plays by a Zach Wilson led O. I thought we'd blow them out after Rodgers went out. SMH This one's going to hurt our chances in the division, and given that it was Wilson, not Rodgers, it'll end up having been one of the worse offenses on our schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Some of the zip on Allen throws is missing. Hid mechanics looked bad. OT throws were awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, buffblue said: FIFY Fixed it a little more. 1. Josh 2. Josh 3. Dorsey 4. Josh 5. Dorsey [6-123 see above] 124: bad punt (middle of the field low hang time and would have only netted 40 on a fair catch?) 125: Josh 126: Dorsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Just in Atlanta said: I’m here for some level-headed, logical points of view. Holding my breath in 3,2,… Which is what? Josh did NOT play horrible? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Allen just didnt look focused at all. Maybe there is something to his prep work after all. McD was telling him to use his head but Josh just wasn’t capable. All totally preventable errors, but he was playing like we needed to win by 21 or it wouldn’t count. So stupid. he better apologize to the fans and city of Buffalo for that craptastic effort i expect a detailed plan of what they are doing to fix it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Playoffs? said: That series in overtime couldn’t have been worse. false start poor throw / poor drop by knox draw play - WTF!!!!!! poor throw by Allen Bills deserved to lose. Diggs is the only player I trust on this team right now. Diggs had a huge penalty in a critical moment. its week 1 and not time for absolutes. Week 1's are always crazy. My only gripe is I want them to get big and physical with a lead in the fourth quarter. Just line up and run it. play with some power. All passing games can be slowed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 My optimistic take: We've tried the whole "tear through the league in Sept. & Oct., then fizzle out" thing. Maybe we learned some lessons tonight. If Allen didn't have that kind of game, we win easy - the D looked good, Kincaid looked good, there were a lot of positives outside of JA. We can hopefully string together a couple of wins against sub-par teams now, and see where we really stand when Miami comes to town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Only the Bills would almost immediately waste a heroic Bass Doink and just fall apart in OT. Most teams would take the MO and win it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Nobody needs to say anything positive here. Losing this game with Arron Rodgers out is a ***** disgrace. You had a 10 point lead on Zach Wilson and lost. I don’t wanna hear a single thing about the Raiders. This ***** is embarrassing and a disgrace. There’s no room for anyone to come in and try and spin it. There are real issues here. They shouldn’t have ever, ever been 1 play away 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Just in Atlanta said: I’m here for some level-headed, logical points of view. Not here, not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I normally blame some ***** calls on officials but they actually called a good game 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lost said: Dont forget all the absolutely unnecessary hits he took this game running the ball. Yeah, what was with the stupid launching in the air like 8 yards from the sticks. Man he is frustrating sometimes. Just gets so squirrely 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: A loss will do this team some good. And we told you Ken Dorsey sucks. Maybe you all will listen this time? I'm starting to wonder if Allen is slightly overrated. He is a turnover machine, perhaps struggles to read coverages, and can't win an overtime game. 0- 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalonian Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Defense was great. Allen had the worse game of his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGauna Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Josh lost the game, plain and simple. Playcall in OT was a joke but we should of never been there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 That 3rd and 2 pass call told me all I needed to know about Dorsey in year 2. I’m done. He doesn’t get it - or he doesn’t trust our run game. Which I doubt. He doesn’t have the in game awareness and Saleh kicked his a** in the 2nd half. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Pretty much this. This is why I wish Pegula had a culture of accountability but we basically have the opposite. McBeane got their contracts extended. Josh is a child with no one challenging him to grow up. There are zero grownups in the house. The problem I see is the buddy buddy connection with Beane and McDermott, how many terrible picks have we had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Aireskoi said: Diggs lined up on Sauce Gardner's side until the final drive from what I could see. Why would they intentionally do that when they could line Diggs anywhere, and had all Summer to game plan for this? Somehow Troy Aikman knew that Gardner doesn't follow the #1 WR to the offensive left side or slot, but the game plan didn't move Diggs away from him till the end? What am I missing here? Lack of details by Dorsey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Success said: My optimistic take: We've tried the whole "tear through the league in Sept. & Oct., then fizzle out" thing. Maybe we learned some lessons tonight. If Allen didn't have that kind of game, we win easy - the D looked good, Kincaid looked good, there were a lot of positives outside of JA. We can hopefully string together a couple of wins against sub-par teams now, and see where we really stand when Miami comes to town. Haha. Miami will crush them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgg716 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: 10-7 team. Josh needs to be better. Jets D is best in league. Dorsey is terrible. The concept offense needs a twist with creativity and designed plays for our playmakers. our Safeties our a step behind. Bills still have a championship roster, but offensively I just don’t think Dorsey is the mastermind and can do it. Said it last year Can't emphasize enough how far from a championship roster this is. Couple that with coaching not good enough to hide some of those holes, and you get tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: My take is mcd, Dorsey and Allen. Josh clearly wasn’t wearing his cape. You signed Harris and Murray for a reason. Pound it. Call the game and take the ball out of his hands a little. This is not that hard. Plenty of teams with less talent can run the ball effecting by simply continuing to do it repeatedly. Just a silly loss in a game that should have been over at halftime the only way to 'pound it' so to speak is to give a running back a downhill lane with a handoff from under center. dorsey only calls shotgun plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, billsherd said: Some of the zip on Allen throws is missing. Hid mechanics looked bad. OT throws were awful. he took a beating tonight. he was getting hit on every passing play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerdMentality Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just never really game planned for Zack Wilson…… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Dorsey makes me so unbelievably mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Me, at 6:30 pm today in the pre-game thread: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 It's pretty clear between Dorsey and Josh, they aren't the tandem that can win a championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: That series in overtime couldn’t have been worse. false start poor throw / poor drop by knox draw play - WTF!!!!!! poor throw by Allen Bills deserved to lose. Diggs is the only player I trust on this team right now. You can't blame Dawson for that. He can't catch every horrible pass Josh throws up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Niagara Dude said: The problem I see is the buddy buddy connection with Beane and McDermott, how many terrible picks have we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: ... and our offensive play calling is baffling. The lack of any creativity or adjusting for the Jets D in the 2nd Half is absolutely mystefying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: In case you weren’t watching, Diggs let the DB get position on him on the deep ball where better tracking could have at least let him defend. Diggs also got called for a penalty. Obviously the loss is on Allen, but let’s not please canonize Diggs. I did watch. I thought the deep pass was a horrible decision by Allen. I thought the push-off was a weak call. Regardless, my statement about Diggs was more in general. Not just this game. I still can’t get over how terrible Allen was, and how crappy our coaching was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Pretty much this. This is why I wish Pegula had a culture of accountability but we basically have the opposite. McBeane got their contracts extended. Josh is a child with no one challenging him to grow up. There are zero grownups in the house. Josh runs this franchise. NO ONE is going to tell him no about anything. Look who the OC is. That’s Josh’s decision. Look who the backup qbs are. That’s Josh’s decision. Everybody knows, including McD and Beane, Josh Allen will be here longer than them. And yes rhia is now a huge problem because there is no one who can control Josh. Yes plenty of other franchise qbs have had this type of control of a team, but almost any of those other qbs, have won super bowls and have earned their say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, zow2 said: Only the Bills would almost immediately waste a heroic Bass Doink and just fall apart in OT. Most teams would take the MO and win it Most teams wouldn’t have let it get to the point of overtime against the MILF hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Man a lot to digest. Confirmed as feared: Brown is not good enough at RT Bernard is not good enough at MLB We have no weapons outside of Diggs Return coverage is awful Dorsey is in over his head Our S are getting slow New concerns: Allen looks like a guy that thinks he can just show up and play. He was lost tonight. Our running was worse than last year. Losing the turnover battle. Our double TE scheme is too easy to defend if we are out of the shotgun. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I was right to be skeptical with all Josh’s off-season talk about playing smarter and protecting the ball. Josh gonna be Josh. As great as he can be, I don’t know that he’ll ever overcome his instinct to play schoolyard football when he gets pressured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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