DieHardFan Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 33 minutes ago, Búfalo Blanco said: I saw this exchange 2 days ago and thought about posting this myself.. Here's my opinion on it: These analysts get into the "slower" parts of the NFL offseason, and are scraping for news. Something like that trade draws a ton of attention this time of year, with little on the NFL news front before the draft. Analysts capitalize and "sensationalize" this sort of story for views. Editorial monologues and aggressive debate over these little transaction surprises take up all of the air in the media and competition for clicks, ratings, whatever ensue... pure sports media offseason theatre. I watch these guys most mornings. @JimmyNoodles got it right. Simms rarely disagrees but is not chastised when he does. He's even tempered and takes alot of abuse with good humor. And he's pretty good at rating players. Florio (originally a litigation lawyer) uses his courtroom tactics (loud, forcefull, loquacious) to make his point (even when he's just talking to himself like last Friday when Charean didn't show up). He concentrates on the business side of things. But they are real, not rehearsed. Start with a list of topics and get as far as time allows. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 3 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: The reality is nobody but Allen and Diggs know's the reason why this trade went down and we probably never will which is fine with me but the fact that we know Allen knew in some way that Diggs would possibly be dealt and didn't nix the trade whatsoever speaks volumes imo. Neither Allen nor Diggs made the trade so I don't think they're the only ones who know why the trade went down. The trade was made by the respective GMs. They're the only ones who totally know why they made the trade. But, yeah, you're right in that we'll probably never know the whole story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Búfalo Blanco Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 32 minutes ago, DieHardFan said: I watch these guys most mornings. @JimmyNoodles got it right. Simms rarely disagrees but is not chastised when he does. He's even tempered and takes alot of abuse with good humor. And he's pretty good at rating players. Florio (originally a litigation lawyer) uses his courtroom tactics (loud, forcefull, loquacious) to make his point (even when he's just talking to himself like last Friday when Charean didn't show up). He concentrates on the business side of things. But they are real, not rehearsed. Start with a list of topics and get as far as time allows. I listen to them quite a bit, and the Simms podcast occasionally.. I agree with you on Simms and didn't know Florio's history, but it makes perfect sense. I still stand by the fact that these guys and most of the sports media are way "over-opinionated" on such transactions simply to keep viewership during slow off-seasons.. and occasionally attempt to manufacture controversy like much of the media. But I do like the two of them and their analysis usually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 9/8/2023 at 5:49 PM, LeGOATski said: Is it January yet? Is it February yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaulGoodman Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 9/8/2023 at 8:56 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Bills went from the golden child to the step child to these analysts. 47 wins in 4 years and 3 straight AFCE titles. I can understand the skepticism about winning in the post-season, but you’re crazy if u don’t think they get there at all. Monday can’t come soon enough. Wasn’t the Toney Offside call the difference in making the playoffs last year? The margin for error was already pretty thin, and now they’ve lost a ton of quality players. It shouldn’t be a shock if a few people are doubting the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninCT Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 well we're back in the news for all the wrong reasons lmao, billsy. the best was night cap with shannon sharpe and ocho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 17 hours ago, SaulGoodman said: Wasn’t the Toney Offside call the difference in making the playoffs last year? The margin for error was already pretty thin, and now they’ve lost a ton of quality players. It shouldn’t be a shock if a few people are doubting the Bills. It wasn’t the difference. Even if the penalty wasn’t called, there was still plenty of time on the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 4/5/2024 at 1:18 PM, Fan in San Diego said: Is it February yet? Looking forward to next offseason already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Not a video headline I expected to see... but hey, he's always loved Josh Allen 😅 The rumor is more focused on Dallas, but for some reason the Bills came up as the next best option for him. 1) Revenge on Kraft 2) Having Josh Allen 3) Knowing how to beat Mahomes Nick Wright wants him to go to the Jets though. If McDermott gets fired, would you guys be open to this? 1 4 1 3 2 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Can’t watch that dick nose anymore 2 5 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 minute ago, BigDingus said: Not a video headline I expected to see... but hey, he's always loved Josh Allen 😅 The rumor is more focused on Dallas, but for some reason the Bills came up as the next best option for him. 1) Revenge on Kraft 2) Having Josh Allen 3) Knowing how to beat Mahomes Nick Wright wants him to go to the Jets though. If McDermott gets fired, would you guys be open to this? McD is not getting fired. Not this year, next year or any years in the near future. 4 2 1 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 McDermott isn't getting fired so there is no chance this happens. If McDermott did get fired, then I absolutely would want Bill as the Bills HC. Look at his record when he has had an elite level franchise QB. Plus, he is a much better DC than Sean. No way can he be the GM. That job is Beane's. 1 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 How on earth can those guys not be talking about basically anything else, esp with the draft next week? It's pure fantasy land. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 It's click bait. I know his brother well. Master. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: McDermott isn't getting fired so there is no chance this happens. If McDermott did get fired, then I absolutely would want Bill as the Bills HC. Look at his record when he has had an elite level franchise QB. Plus, he is a much better DC than Sean. No way can he be the GM. That job is Beane's. He'd have to agree to 100% step away from all GM decisions. If Sean were to get fired, Bill would have to hire a very compelling OC if Brady doesn't pan out or gets hired as a HC. But for now there's like a 2% chance of any of this happening. Edited April 18 by LABILLBACKER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 9 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: McD is not getting fired. Not this year, next year or any years in the near future. Need to make room for more wild card banners 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 minutes ago, HansLanda said: How on earth can those guys not be talking about basically anything else, esp with the draft next week? It's pure fantasy land. McCarthy isn't all that safe in Dallas. He will start out as the Cowboys HC in 2024 but that doesn't mean he will last the entire season. As far as Bill to the Cowboys I could see that happening down the road. Jerry wants another championship and soon. As for the Bills it is pure fantasy land as McDermott isn't getting fired anytime soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 If it helps retain Josh Allen, I'm all for it. Next offseason JA17's cap hits start getting so large and his remaining term so short that he can pretty much call his shot on where he wants to play if the Bills can't get him to sign an extension. His home state of California.........with offensive geniuses McVay and Shanahan.........and the promise of not having to face Mahomes in the playoffs until a Super Bowl........that would have to be very enticing. Bills need to be ALL ABOUT supporting Josh Allen. The hope of Belichick making a difference might be enough to tip the scales if they are otherwise all-in on giving Allen weapons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I think Belichick will be a disaster at his next stop. For one thing, I am not sure he will let go of GM responsibility. However, the bigger issue is that I think he needed Tom Brady. Not for Tom's talent (thought that helped), but because he had a QB who was okay being screamed at, belittled, and told "no days off." Because Tom bought in (until it got old and he didn't), others bought in. When Belichick disciples have tried to institute the "Patriot way" other places, it's been a disaster. I see the same thing happening when Bill goes elsewhere. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 15 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Not a video headline I expected to see... but hey, he's always loved Josh Allen 😅 The rumor is more focused on Dallas, but for some reason the Bills came up as the next best option for him. 1) Revenge on Kraft 2) Having Josh Allen 3) Knowing how to beat Mahomes Nick Wright wants him to go to the Jets though. If McDermott gets fired, would you guys be open to this? As a Defensive coordinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I mean, he's not getting a job anywhere until next season - unless something happens where there's some kind of fight between the Coach and Owner or some sort of health issue. No one's firing their Head Coach at this point in the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 His son would be an improvement on Clappy 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 19 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: McD is not getting fired. Not this year, next year or any years in the near future. That's Josh Allen's decision to make..........and he and McD aren't golfing buddies. Allen removed the chip from his shoulder and made a 180 degree turn on offseason work after he "arrived" in the 13 seconds game. He traded Britt in for a girl who definitely AIN'T moving to Buffalo. So he's changed his mind on matters of professional and personal import before. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 McDs time is wearing thin so who knows. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I hope not. McD and Beane are young and hungry. I don’t want a 72 year old coach, the drive just isn’t there. We could do a lot worse than McBeane, I mean a lot worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Is Belichick too egotistical to do anything besides head Coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 40 minutes ago, Gregg said: McDermott isn't getting fired so there is no chance this happens. If McDermott did get fired, then I absolutely would want Bill as the Bills HC. Look at his record when he has had an elite level franchise QB. Plus, he is a much better DC than Sean. No way can he be the GM. That job is Beane's. If McDermott is gone Beane is gone too. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 The Buffalo Bill Belichicks… Hmmm…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If McDermott is gone Beane is gone too. That used to be the case. I don't think it's that simple anymore. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 i hate the man, but if he brings a championship to buffalo with JA17, then so be it. i think JA17 would love to play for Bill bc of how much he loves brady. on second though, id probably feel nauseous and vomiting everywhere like this if we hired him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, BigDingus said: Not a video headline I expected to see... but hey, he's always loved Josh Allen 😅 The rumor is more focused on Dallas, but for some reason the Bills came up as the next best option for him. 1) Revenge on Kraft 2) Having Josh Allen 3) Knowing how to beat Mahomes Nick Wright wants him to go to the Jets though. If McDermott gets fired, would you guys be open to this? Two words ***** no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Kraft stuck the fork in his back, he's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 25 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: Is Belichick too egotistical to do anything besides head Coach? Don't want him, but pretty sure this knocked him down a peg. Having the level of success he had would go to most peoples heads. Life has a tendency to snap most out of it unless it's that deep in his bones which I doubt. He shoveled a decent amount of crap to get where he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: If it helps retain Josh Allen, I'm all for it. Next offseason JA17's cap hits start getting so large and his remaining term so short that he can pretty much call his shot on where he wants to play if the Bills can't get him to sign an extension. His home state of California.........with offensive geniuses McVay and Shanahan.........and the promise of not having to face Mahomes in the playoffs until a Super Bowl........that would have to be very enticing. Bills need to be ALL ABOUT supporting Josh Allen. The hope of Belichick making a difference might be enough to tip the scales if they are otherwise all-in on giving Allen weapons. Josh Allen would be the biggest fraud ever Literally since day one before he ever stepped onto an NFL field he said he wanted to play with one franchise forever ... Hid biggest thing is loyalty And talks about how much he loves Buffalo... The children's hospital is named in honor of his grandmother It's one thing if he leaves when he's 37... Leaving in his prime... He would have a smear campaign against him And they would probably drag up every single little incident that ever happened... And Josh certainly doesn't want to go through the ringer.. and they would drag him through it because they are so petty You're talking about the face of an entire city... Before Tom Brady the Patriots were not a proud franchise The Buffalo Bills on the other hand... And our fan base... Edited April 18 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 One thing we know for sure is that Bill Belichick loves Josh Allen…. Hope he ends up in Dallas, that would be entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Mods, could we maybe merge this thread with the "What kind of obscene draft picks could we get by trading Josh Allen to Chicago" thread? Sort of in the same ludicrous vein. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 If Belichick was willing to be the Bills assistant HC and/or defensive coordinator, I would be all for it. Dick LeBeau helped the Stillers win two Super Bowls (XL and XLIII) as a sort of HC emeritus with the title assistant HC/defensive coordinator. I think it's very unlikely that Belichick would consider such a position if the Bills offered it. I think he wants to be a HC in order to get the wins he needs to become the winningest HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Well, well This is CERTAINLY EXCITING NEWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, BigDingus said: 😅 fired, would you guys be open to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Unemployed man wants job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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