NewEra Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I'd guess one year $1.7 million but who knows as still not heard how much if any we got back in cap savings with the Oliver extension. I doubt that. I’m thinking it’s 4-6M 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Well done BB!, Floyd is a really nice addition to have until Von is back and will be even nicer when both are playing. Can't forget about bringing Poonia Ford in as well, I think we are good to go on D! From the start of offseason to where we are now, I am pretty happy.. I think the maybe the only lingering question will be wondering what we really have in Dorsey and is the WR roster behind Diggs good enough to keep things moving should Diggs miss time.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mango said: $1.7M feels light. Are you thinking that's his actual value, or are you just basing that on our cap space? I thought maybe $6-8M. Definitely light. I don’t think he would’ve signed that at this point. 4-6M imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I'd guess one year $1.7 million but who knows as still not heard how much if any we got back in cap savings with the Oliver extension. Considering we are guessing,, I’ll say $3.5M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Another interesting stat. Bradley Chubb has 28.5 sacks over 5 years in the league. What did the fish give up to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Put me down for an even 4 mil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, starrymessenger said: I'm very impressed with Beane's off-season moves. With little cap room to manoeuvre he seems to have improved the roster significantly where upgrades were needed. Proof will be in the pudding but all looks very good on paper. Now the coaches need to make it work. Pressure is on them. Floyd is a good signing. Not only has he developed as a pass rusher but he's always been good against the run and if memory serves he's not bad in coverage either in a pinch. I've been a Beane critic. For the most part, I like the moves Beane has made. (Not the Oliver signing). He has addressed the weaknesses of the team with some solid pieces on a limited budget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sestak4ever said: Another interesting stat. Bradley Chubb has 28.5 sacks over 5 years in the league. What did the fish give up to get him? The Fins gave up a first round pick for Chubb, who is, as you suggest, JAG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Just now, mannc said: The Fins gave up a first round pick for Chubb, who is, as you suggest, JAG. and $110 million in an extension. Don't forget that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’ve joined a dolphin board years ago but to just talk football. We have a mole get him!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Definitely light. I don’t think he would’ve signed that at this point. 4-6M imo. I have a super wide breadth for where I think this contract falls. I wouldn't be shocked at $4.5M and I likely wouldn't bat an eye at $8.5M either. He has 29.5 sacks the last 3 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 6 hours ago, McBean said: Wasn't this just before Denzel got B-slapped by the 'hood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Bills now have five- FIVE - edge players drafted in the first round: Floyd, Miller, Shaq, Rousseau, Ray. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said: He’s still out there doing gods work I see. the replies to his tweet are amazing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Wasn't this just before Denzel got B-slapped by the 'hood? King Kong didn’t have anything on him 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Nice tidbit via NY POST Not only is Floyd another talented player for the rival team that has won the division three straight years, but he has also historically tortured Rodgers stretching back to his time with the Bears. In nine career games against Rodgers and the Packers, Floyd logged nine sacks. 6 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Von Floyd Rousseau Shaq, AJ, Basham, Kingsley, Ray battling for the 4th & 5th spots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mango said: I have a super wide breadth for where I think this contract falls. I wouldn't be shocked at $4.5M and I likely wouldn't bat an eye at $8.5M either. He has 29.5 sacks the last 3 years. Word. I can definitely see Beane paying more than 6M. 8.5M for one year isn’t an overpay for a guy like Floyd….it’s just more than I think Beane would pay considering the dearth of vet pass rushers available. The reason I could see 8-9m is if McD really wants to be versatile and move him around, a la Lorax. Floyds coverage and movement skills >> the other vets. He opens up more options 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: King Kong didn’t have anything on him If I was drinking coffee when I read this I would have spit it out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 6 hours ago, MAJBobby said: This was important. You saw how the defense fell off when Vonn went down. Need another Viable option for early in the season until Vonn all the way back. Lindsey Vonn played for the Bills? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, teef said: the replies to his tweet are amazing. I particularly liked this one - “This is why you can’t just talk football with random strangers. It could end up being that guy.” You know… except for the fact that anyone on TBD knows Filthy Beast isn’t a random stranger, he’s the ugly little B word under the bridge screaming at passers by from a pool of his own p*** and vomit. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Von Floyd Rousseau Shaq, AJ, Basham, Kingsley, Ray battling for the 4th & 5th spots Give me Shaq @4 and let Ray/AJ battle for that last spot. Boogie either trade for a 6th or 7th. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Skip the pass rush stuff; it doesn't translate enough to wins and losses. Protect the QB? Hell yes. I'd spend every dime on offense and just look to be league average at every position on D. No pass rusher has ever won a championship for anyone. So you are saying that pass rush and pass rushers are overrated, but you want to spend a ton of money on an offensive line to protect Allen from........pass rushers? 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: That brings us to what, 7 DE under contract (counting Von Miller who lists as a LB due to his #)? Von, Rousseau, Epenesa, Basham, Lawson,Kingsley Jonathan, and now Floyd Somebody's gotta go Could be worse, could be a DT where we currently have....10 DT on the roster. Washington likes competition, he's got competition. Edited June 5, 2023 by Beck Water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Just now, Beck Water said: That brings us to what, 7 DE under contract (counting Von Miller who lists as a LB due to his #)? Von, Rousseau, Epenesa, Basham, Lawson,Kingsley Jonathan, and now Floyd Somebody's gotta go I just hope that it’s not Kingsley Jonathan Just got a feeling about this guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 This is huge, especially if Von Miller isn't quite ready to go in September. Of course, having two top pass rushers at the same time isn't bad either. If Buffalo can deal with the middle linebacker issue, they really could be scary good and a nightmare for other teams to have to face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 My guess is $6.5M, with $4.5M cap hit this year and $2M next year (void). I'd be pleasantly surprised by anything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Skip the pass rush stuff; it doesn't translate enough to wins and losses. Protect the QB? Hell yes. I'd spend every dime on offense and just look to be league average at every position on D. No pass rusher has ever won a championship for anyone. Jamar Chase was wide open and if Aaron Donald doesn't get to Burrow so quickly, the Bengals win the Super Bowl. The Patriots put up over 500 points that season. Did the Giants beat them in a shoot out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: This is huge, especially if Von Miller isn't quite ready to go in September. Of course, having two top pass rushers at the same time isn't bad either. If Buffalo can deal with the middle linebacker issue, they really could be scary good and a nightmare for other teams to have to face. If Rousseau continues his ascent and Von returns to form — yes, two reasonably sized IFs — later in the year, we could have three top pass rushers to knock Rodgers, Mahomes and Burrow on their as$es. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 40 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I just hope that it’s not Kingsley Jonathan Just got a feeling about this guy You think Jonathan is going to make the final roster? I’d give him a .1% chance. Practice squad 💯 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: If Rousseau continues his ascent and Von returns to form — yes, two reasonably sized IFs — later in the year, we could have three top pass rushers to knock Rodgers, Mahomes and Burrow on their as$es. I'd like to know about his off-season work...the hell with Gabe at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 8 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said: Meh the pass rush was dreadful so they needed someone but this guy was a bust until he got to play next to Aaron Donald. my girlfriend could rack up 6-8 sacks playing next to Donald, Floyd won’t have that luxury here Your girlfriend is 6' 4" 240lbs as well? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, klos63 said: Your girlfriend is 6' 4" 240lbs as well? 4’4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: 4’4 High, or wide? I haven’t been keeping up, I’m afraid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Augie said: High, or wide? I haven’t been keeping up, I’m afraid. Both? 🤷🏻♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I am so impressed with Beane this off season with his aggressive mentality addressing needs and using every maneuver known in manipulating the cap to our advantage. Floyd was instrumental in the SB winning Rams along with Miller. He is perfect to play in Miller’s spot until he is ready and then be part of an impactful rushing, sack thirsty rotation with Rousseau, and Epenesa. This guy will be a leader and help our pressure packages in a big way. With the addition of Ford and a highly motivated Oliver, this defense will be scary. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: If Rousseau continues his ascent and Von returns to form — yes, two reasonably sized IFs — later in the year, we could have three top pass rushers to knock Rodgers, Mahomes and Burrow on their as$es. Imho, it's the offense that's going to get the Bills to the Super Bowl. The defense just has to make a play here and there. Get a critical stop or two. Just look at the Super Bowl. The vaunted Philly defense had no answers to stop Mahomes and vice versa. The awesome niner defense shredded by Philly. It's an offensive league. Go get Hopkins. Edited June 5, 2023 by newcam2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: Imho, it's the offense that's going to get the Bills to the Super Bowl. The defense just has to make a play here and there. Get a critical stop or two. Just look at the Super Bowl. The vaunted Philly defense had no answers to stop Mahomes and vice versa. It's an offensive league. Go get Hopkins. Just look at Bills @ KC. The d kept KC out of the end zone 3 times in a row to end the game. All we needed was 3 stops…. And we got 3. There’s more than one way to skin a cat. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 50 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: If Rousseau continues his ascent and Von returns to form — yes, two reasonably sized IFs — later in the year, we could have three top pass rushers to knock Rodgers, Mahomes and Burrow on their as$es. I just don't see Von being that same guy coming off an ACL at his age. I think he at best starts the season on the PUP list (which makes the addition of Floyd more needed) and then Von takes the rest of the regular season to round back into form. Hopefully by the playoffs he can have that big time run having shaken off the rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, NewEra said: Both? 🤷🏻♂️ So, she’s really in perfect shape, and that shape happens to be “round”? It’s OK, I’m not here to judge. . Edited June 5, 2023 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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