BillsFan619 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) Does the mafia agree? Thoughts? ILB DT RB Offensive Line Here’s the full article if you want to take a deep dive: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/4-roster-needs-bills-still-114503349.html Go Bills! Edited May 15, 2023 by BillsFan619 1 5 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 If they think we need more rb's then I question their knowledge of the team. 14 18 4 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Just now, Allen2Diggs said: If they think we need more rb's then I question their knowledge of the team. Exactly-the article could’ve been written so much quicker by simply saying “i don’t really know so I’m going to choose 3 random positions and then LB because Edmunds is gone” 2 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) Bills look good overall. It's mainly staying healthy, getting a good start in the division, and executing more consistently throughout the season and hitting the playoffs playing their best football. Another proven edge rusher would be ideal. I'm fine with RB, DT (for this year). We will see if McDermott calling the defense makes the loss of Edmunds less impactful than we may currently think/believe. Let's get these rookies going and hope this draft class produces some starters and quality depth with cheaper contracts. Edited May 14, 2023 by Wizard 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Question, if Von Miller can’t return or is a lesser player are we good with edge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) I think “must” is a terrible word to use in this case. I think we’re set @ RB ILB would be nice, but I don’t think it’s in our plans unless a vet will take the minimum OT should be addressed….. but the FO sadly disagree. Maybe one of our 11 IOL can swing outside. DT- we have 5 solid DTs. We don’t have room on the roster for another unless we cut settle or trade Ed. I hope we keep Ee at this point. He should play like his hair is on fire this season Edited May 14, 2023 by NewEra 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, NewEra said: I think “must” is a terrible word to use in this case. I think we’re set @ RB ILB would be nice, but I don’t think it’s in our plans unless a vet will take the minimum OT should be addressed….. but the FO sadly disagree. Maybe one of our 11 IOL can swing outside. DT- we have 5 solid DTs. We don’t have room on the roster for another unless we cut settle or trade Ed. I hope we keep Ee at this point. He should play like his hair is on fire this season The bigger problem with DT is going to be next year as we will be over the cap next year and all of them are going to be FAs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Stadium Original Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 There is another aspect of the Bills roster that has to do with depth at specific positions. You might think player X at position Y is in pretty good shape and doesnt need addressing, but what about their backups(s)?? Eveyone thought the Bills were set at safety last year, and look what happened when Poyer and Hyde went down. What position can they least afford to lose due to injury because you dont trust their backups, but their position is essential to success?..Dawkins?..Milano??..unfortunately, it is the NFL and starters WILL get injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Question, if Von Miller can’t return or is a lesser player are we good with edge? Definitely not good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Allen2Diggs said: If they think we need more rb's then I question their knowledge of the team. I think the issue is someone needs to step up, more than a volume issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Edge is the only position imo we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Our OLine is too deep if anything. We improved the interior oline talent and depth dramatically. Beane trades an oline man every year. Thats because there is a dearth of oline players in the NFL, and its a numbers game, the Bills have 13 quality lineman. Beane is not giving away OL, and we arent keeping more than 10. 9 pick’s already next years draft, go get more Beane. Beane is a wizard 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFan619 said: ILB DT RB Offensive Line Does the mafia agree? Thoughts? Here’s the full article if you want to take a deep dive: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/4-roster-needs-bills-still-114503349.html Go Bills! ILB I agree with, the OL depends on if Spencer Brown is actually better than he showed as the Bills believe. The other two are stupid, I feel WR is still more questionable than RB, and DE is more questionable than DT until Miller comes back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Question, if Von Miller can’t return or is a lesser player are we good with edge? It is time for Basham and Epenesa to step up here. Epenesa is entering his final season and if he has a great season, the BIlls have a chance to win the SB and for him to get a big contract somewhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Poorly written article headline. The Bills have addressed all these areas — the question is, is what they've done sufficient. I'd say for RB and O-line Yes, for DT yes as well (question for edge), and ILB is a maybe but no surprise if the answer is no. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: The bigger problem with DT is going to be next year as we will be over the cap next year and all of them are going to be FAs. I think they will address this issue before the season starts. Would still like to see the Bills give Da'Quon Jones an extension. I'm not worried about the salary cap. We avoided issues with it this year, we can do it again next year. Although I would like to see the Bills make up considerable space in the cap, and then sign Josh Allen from the Jaguars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Weakest positions: ILB WR2 RT Edge Rusher 1 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, ngbills said: Weakest positions: ILB WR2 RT Edge Rusher Do the other 31 teams four weakest positions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: ILB DT RB Offensive Line Does the mafia agree? Thoughts? Here’s the full article if you want to take a deep dive: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/4-roster-needs-bills-still-114503349.html Go Bills! Strange that you would post this at this time of the year With the exception of a Veteran rush defender, the bills are done addressing needs We have to look at our roster. That’s what we’ve got after free agency and draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, ganesh said: It is time for Basham and Epenesa to step up here. Epenesa is entering his final season and if he has a great season, the BIlls have a chance to win the SB and for him to get a big contract somewhere. The weird thing about Epenesa is that I barely remember seeing him play last season, yet he somehow got 6.5 sacks. I think most of them came late in blowouts after the game was in hand and Von Miller was taken out. We don't have any DT's under contract beyond this season, so AJ Epenesa, DaQuan Jones, Tim Settle, Jordan Phillips, Poona Ford, Shaw Lawson, and Ed Oliver are all in contract years. I think they will all be playing hungry to win a Superbowl, prove their value, and then get a big deal in free agency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I think they will address this issue before the season starts. Would still like to see the Bills give Da'Quon Jones an extension. I'm not worried about the salary cap. We avoided issues with it this year, we can do it again next year. Although I would like to see the Bills make up considerable space in the cap, and then sign Josh Allen from the Jaguars. The concern I have revolves around them having at least 4 players they can rotate. Unless they get 2 guys that are every down players at DT, it's going to be a problem if half of them decide to walk. Allen would be interesting for sure but if he puts up another 10 sack season it's not gonna happen. Jags will resign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Wiz said: The concern I have revolves around them having at least 4 players they can rotate. Unless they get 2 guys that are every down players at DT, it's going to be a problem if half of them decide to walk. Allen would be interesting for sure but if he puts up another 10 sack season it's not gonna happen. Jags will resign him. Will they? We've seen them let players walk before. They also have to think about paying Trevor Lawrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Rb's....we're fine nothing to see here. ILB- it will depend on if Sean runs a base 4-3. DE- if Von doesn't come back at least 90% we're screwed. No faith in Groot w/o Von. OL- we made some nice IOL upgrades but slow footed Spencer still scares the crap out of me. DT- if everyone stays healthy we should have a good rotational year. Next year we will have to reload here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 3 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: ILB DT RB Offensive Line Does the mafia agree? Thoughts? Here’s the full article if you want to take a deep dive: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/4-roster-needs-bills-still-114503349.html Go Bills! ILB - I didn’t want to see the Bills pay Edmunds $18M a year, but I thought the answer would be to snag a good vet for a lot less. RB - Difficult to see this as a big need. DT - It would have been better to have found another DT in the draft or signed to a long term deal. Still, DT doesn’t look like a problem this season. OL - OT is an issue, but not so much the interior. Real competition for Brown was in order and we didn’t get that. Bringing in that competition would have improved our swing tackle as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I actually don't see any of those as "needs." It would be nice to have upgrades at some of the positions, but if the season started today, I feel like they're pretty set. It's not like we have JAGs at those positions. DT, RB & the line in particular seem fine. I get that it's a risk counting on Brown at RT - but we upgraded the guard positions, and Morse & Dawkins were always going to be our starters in '23. I don't feel like Brown is some massive risk - he has flashed real potential and the general feeling seems to be that the offseason injury really set him back last year. RB is 100% set. We do not need another RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 OT is a need (hope for Brown is not a strategy); and Edge. We have nothing but role players outside Miller as shown when he went out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Yahoo Sports … where the deep dives live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I would be surprised if Buffalo makes a major move at this point, and I don't think media pundits like Yahoo would regard anything less than a major move as fully addressing a need. Buffalo is going to rely on the more modest moves they have made in those areas, and hope that they will be sufficient to address the needs. To review, they added two offensive guards with starting experience and drafted arguably the best pure guard in the draft. Beyond that, they are counting on improvement from Spencer Brown, who should benefit from a full offseason in good health. They are also hoping for a contribution from Tommy Doyle who is coming back from injury. At running back, they signed two guys who can run with power, something they have lacked for several years. I think they are also counting on continued development from James Cook as a runner who can provide elusiveness and home run speed. The Bills signed a legitimate quality nose tackle in Poona Ford to pair with Daquan Jones. Admittedly, they did very little at middle linebacker. The guy they drafted, Dorian Williams, is set to be more of a weak side linebacker according to Brandon Bean, though that is certainly subject to change. Otherwise, Buffalo is mainly counting on guys who have been with the team stepping up and proving they can start. It will be necessary to tweak the scheme a bit, because none of the middle linebackers in house have the skill set to do what Tremaine Edmunds did. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Will they? We've seen them let players walk before. They also have to think about paying Trevor Lawrence. Paying Lawrence won't matter until his 5th year, assuming they do the same thing as they did with Josh. Give him a big extension that doesn't kick in for a year and a half down the road but give him a big signing bonus up front. Jags are actually turning into a decent team now so I'm guessing they would want to retain that talent if it shows from Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 5 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: ILB DT RB Offensive Line Does the mafia agree? Thoughts? Here’s the full article if you want to take a deep dive: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/4-roster-needs-bills-still-114503349.html Go Bills! why do you follow yahoo sports? they full of bad takes for click bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Búfalo Blanco Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Paying Lawrence won't matter until his 5th year, assuming they do the same thing as they did with Josh. Give him a big extension that doesn't kick in for a year and a half down the road but give him a big signing bonus up front. Jags are actually turning into a decent team now so I'm guessing they would want to retain that talent if it shows from Allen. This is a team, particularly under Peterson, that scares me around playoff time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Edge is the biggest need. I like Lawson but he is putrid as a pass rusher. Rousseau looked good opposite Miller until both got hurt. He didn’t play well after the injury. He needs a big year. I have no hopes for Basham and Epenesa. They are as bad as the Ford pick. Maybe one of these backup LBs can pass rush from time to time. Maybe they kick Oliver to end for a few snaps a game. Maybe Miller shows up and is ready to go and we all still question what the hell happened with White last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 7 hours ago, The Wiz said: The bigger problem with DT is going to be next year as we will be over the cap next year and all of them are going to be FAs. This isn’t like you. No One knows what the Cap will be next year as the League is still compensating for the Covid years. With Poyer, Hyde, Morse, Von Roten, Saffold, Taiwan Jones, Latavious Murray, Klein, Von & DaQuan Jones all eligible for their AARP cards after the season, their next destination is likely ‘the Home’.. Add to this, the youngins’ they’ve Drafted recently whom -while many here and crapped on-appear ready to make a big jump in their capabilities. Henry Jones, John Fina and Phil Hanson were scorned by ‘mafiaknowitalls’ early in their careers who developed into fine starters and contributed to continued team success, after replacing Leonard Smith, Wil Wolford & Dr. 1 Sack.. imo, our roster is solid and is in good hands with our GM, HC & Scouts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Article is a waste of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 8 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: ILB DT RB Offensive Line Does the mafia agree? Thoughts? Here’s the full article if you want to take a deep dive: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/4-roster-needs-bills-still-114503349.html Go Bills! I fail to see how RB is still a need position. They lost Singletary but: Cook Hines added: Harris Murray Plus they are still signing guys. How many does the author think they need? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Edge is the biggest need. I like Lawson but he is putrid as a pass rusher. Rousseau looked good opposite Miller until both got hurt. He didn’t play well after the injury. He needs a big year. I have no hopes for Basham and Epenesa. They are as bad as the Ford pick. Maybe one of these backup LBs can pass rush from time to time. Maybe they kick Oliver to end for a few snaps a game. Maybe Miller shows up and is ready to go and we all still question what the hell happened with White last year. I would love to see them kick Oliver out to edge. He’s not a natural pass rusher but I think he could do some work vs OTs with effort alone. Im not worried about Miller being ready to play, I’m worried about him being a dominant pass rusher again. ACLs are tough for older players. Edited May 15, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Gugny said: Yahoo Sports … where the deep dives live. Yahoo is one step up from the National Enquirer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 9 hours ago, ganesh said: It is time for Basham and Epenesa to step up here. Epenesa is entering his final season and if he has a great season, the BIlls have a chance to win the SB and for him to get a big contract somewhere. I doubt they "step up." We know what they are. Inconsistent role players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 11 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Question, if Von Miller can’t return or is a lesser player are we good with edge? It's time of the other guys to step up & prove that they are worthy & i for one have always wanted them to just try Oliver on the edge in a couple different formations . He's undersized for a DT unless he had the motor of John Randle but he doesn't . Given his quick first step & his size is better suited for the edge i have always been interested to see him on the edge if it doesn't work fine put him back at DT but you don't know if you don't try . Look at what happened to Jason Peters he turned into a HOF LT from a TE hell the Bills could have the next Bruce but if they don't even try to see they will never know . And what will trying him at that position hurt ? NOTHING ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, T master said: It's time of the other guys to step up & prove that they are worthy & i for one have always wanted them to just try Oliver on the edge in a couple different formations . He's undersized for a DT unless he had the motor of John Randle but he doesn't . Given his quick first step & his size is better suited for the edge i have always been interested to see him on the edge if it doesn't work fine put him back at DT but you don't know if you don't try . Look at what happened to Jason Peters he turned into a HOF LT from a TE hell the Bills could have the next Bruce but if they don't even try to see they will never know . And what will trying him at that position hurt ? NOTHING ... I’m good with trying anything but this isn’t a team where you want to be depending on edge players trying to find their game. We’re a Super Bowl contender and we’ve already seen a lot of Oliver, Epenesa, and Basham. All that’s left for these players is hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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