mrags Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said: Good to see you’re open minded🤓.. yes we would like to see 3rd picks start/contribute immediately. We shall see 🤷🏻♂️ Again. Just being realistic. This kid is a waste. everyone is just stuck on the fact that we had a hole at MLB. And we drafted someone that’s not a MLB. Get it out of your minds that this kid is going to be something for this team. He’s not. He’s a backup at best and a STer. We can only hope they don’t waste extra roster spots and money on veteran ST players as well as these guys like Williams and Bernard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: It’s a ridiculous pick, just like Bernard last year. You’re going to be trucked trying to stick 228 pounders in the middle of your defense. Complete whiff, complete reach, when there were better players on the board. Trades were happening all around them there and they didn’t think to get out of that pick? Louis Riddick likes it, and he's a future GM, former player & best analyst on tv. What's your resume? 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: This feels a little bit like a forced pick. Maybe they were hoping to grab on of those other linebackers and then there was that mini run and they locked into taking a linebacker. There is zero chance he was BPA, whereas the other two picks felt like BPA. I don’t hate the pick…I hate the idea that they have already decided he’s really not going to be in the mix to play next to Milano. What’s the point? I’m actually hoping the come away with Noah Sewell later who can actually slot in at Mike. I liked Williams day 3 but I think a lot of us would have preferred something like gambling on the potential of Drew Sanders in round 2 and then going with a Chandler Zavala in round 3 if they were determined to go G/LB or LB/G. Which is what it seems they were doing in hindsight. They really couldn't have expected the LB's that could run to last to day 3, could they have? Interior OL was generally expected to be deeper on day 3. Torrence really has to be a very good guard for that sequence to make sense. O'Cyrus has that "I saw him mocked in round 1" name recognition that Cyrus Kouandjio and Cody Ford had before him as second round offensive lineman that the Bills have drafted in Whaley/Beane eras. Same kinda' questions regarding the agility from the knees down. A second round guard really needs to turn into star quality blocker pretty quickly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Milano was drafted 5th round, 6th round projection 6' 223 ran a 4.67 Williams Drafted in the 3rd round.. Mid fourth round projection 6'1 228 rand a 4.49 I wanted Jones more than life itself.. but sometimes you have to draft for need. it is what it is. Edmunds was slow as hell getting to a flat or exploding to a flat. we got faster. New defensive scheme.. I GET IT... it is what it is.. and I am not going to get to down on this till i see what this turns into. I am not going to be the guy eating crow 6 months from now... I don’t want to hear about Matt Milano. I had the same concerns about Bernard as soon as that pick was made, but I made the well he’s like Matt Milano rationalization. And what a shock! Bernard got on the field and was flat out terrible. He looked and played like lost-overmatched Safety. Dewand is a bum, he’s lazy, he fat, since we’re going back in Bills history to put our capes on and defend a horrific pick, the same was said about Peters, how lazy and fat he was. Don’t we have a proven Offensive Line Coach? He couldn’t help shape Jones into a quality player? Starter at Ohio State. Makes no sense at all, how is this value or an understanding of the Draft by the Bills? Every year they do this off the wall ridiculous pick on a guy that’s 2-3 rounds too early. First two picks were so good and straightforward, but then we had to get Billsy and take Nic Harris, Alvin Bowen, Keith Ellison, Chris White and so on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: thanks as always putting this in perspective Shaw. Some teams Rotate ILB and their OLB calls the plays... Could you see that happening this year? Sorry, but I've never really been much of an Xs and Os guy. I don't know very much at all about linebacker strategy and techniques. You very well could be right, but I just don't know. I certainly could see Milano being the signal caller. I just don't know if any on the roster can hold up at the other spot. It just seems to me that these guys are very thoughtful about the kind of player they want, and it isn't an accident that they are collecting under-sized (or in the case of Spencer Brown, oddly-sized) athletes. I have thought for a while that McDermott wants the best, most versatile athletes. And smaller guys are generally more versatile. I think it's all part of the wrestler mentality. I'm not familiar enough with the defenses that other teams play, but quick but under-sized seems unconventional to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Beane said in his presser they had a few offers to move in the 3rd, but he didn’t like how far they’d have to drop so he took Dorian. He has traded up in 4 of 6 drafts, he gets super antsy and impatient, when I’d rather he sit in a dark room until it’s time to pick. I don’t like sacrificing picks. What a dumb answer. What is logic to that? Draft a linebacker 1-2 rounds early? Guess we did it for a converted Safety last year, so might as well try it again because it worked so well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLSINATL Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I like Dorian. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, BILLSINATL said: I like Dorian. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. there was a run on LBs….so what? Sign another cheap Veteran after the draft and some UDFA’s instead. If we reached on our board in a panic that’s a total fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLSINATL Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. Edited April 29, 2023 by BILLSINATL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Beane said in his presser they had a few offers to move in the 3rd, but he didn’t like how far they’d have to drop so he took Dorian. He has traded up in 4 of 6 drafts, he gets super antsy and impatient, when I’d rather he sit in a dark room until it’s time to pick. I don’t like sacrificing picks. Agreed, and aside from Allen, they haven't really shown the ability to draft these early rounds well. And even though I like Kincaid, I haven't stopped hearing about how amazingly loaded this draft is with talented TE's, and I'm starting to get Sammy Watkins vibes. Not in the fact Kincaid will be a bust, only that we'll find out many teams got Pro Bowl level TE's all over the place, yet we traded way assets to get ours. We traded up for Edmunds & got nothing. We went back to back Edge rushers in 1st & 2nd rds and haven't seen much from it. We reached on Bernard in the 3rd & got a ST player. We went CB in the 1st, then had him on the bench in favor of a 6th rounder... So what's different about THIS pick? Will a 228 lb ILB from Tulane really become a consistent starter this time? I don't know, but I don't like our shotty history... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4:00 into Beane’s press conference and it’s “size matters” and “it’s never a bad thing to add up front” - But glad we chose to add a depth linebacker at 91 overall. The statements and logic don’t add up whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Well a lot of people here trashed Edmunds for 5 years, look at the bright side ya have a new guy to trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrEpsYtown Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 37 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: You know, in an odd way, maybe he was the bpa. It just seems to me that McDermott thinks the way to play is to be quick, fast, athletic, and versatile. And I think Beane agrees. The Kincaid pick was the same, in a sense. Not a typical, more physical tight end, but a guy who features speed and skill in a complicated position. And Bernard last year. That's three versatile, quick (and small), talented guys. Well, we're going to find out, because someone will actually have to play in the middle. Yeah I agree l. And I do like Williams. What sours things for me is that Beane already basically said he won’t be the mike. So I don’t understand the why part of this deal and why there are baically writing him off as Milano’s backup and a special teams guy. Say “we believe he can play mike and we will give him a shot in camp.” Then I can buy this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I don’t want to hear about Matt Milano. I had the same concerns about Bernard as soon as that pick was made, but I made the well he’s like Matt Milano rationalization. And what a shock! Bernard got on the field and was flat out terrible. He looked and played like lost-overmatched Safety. Dewand is a bum, he’s lazy, he fat, since we’re going back in Bills history to put our capes on and defend a horrific pick, the same was said about Peters, how lazy and fat he was. Don’t we have a proven Offensive Line Coach? He couldn’t help shape Jones into a quality player? Starter at Ohio State. Makes no sense at all, how is this value or an understanding of the Draft by the Bills? Every year they do this off the wall ridiculous pick on a guy that’s 2-3 rounds too early. First two picks were so good and straightforward, but then we had to get Billsy and take Nic Harris, Alvin Bowen, Keith Ellison, Chris White and so on. omg the sky is not falling.. relax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: Yeah I agree l. And I do like Williams. What sours things for me is that Beane already basically said he won’t be the mike. So I don’t understand the why part of this deal and why there are baically writing him off as Milano’s backup and a special teams guy. Say “we believe he can play mike and we will give him a shot in camp.” Then I can buy this. I haven't heard Beane. I agree with you. If special teams is his ceiling, I don't get the pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 29 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I liked Williams day 3 but I think a lot of us would have preferred something like gambling on the potential of Drew Sanders in round 2 and then going with a Chandler Zavala in round 3 if they were determined to go G/LB or LB/G. Which is what it seems they were doing in hindsight. They really couldn't have expected the LB's that could run to last to day 3, could they have? Interior OL was generally expected to be deeper on day 3. Torrence really has to be a very good guard for that sequence to make sense. O'Cyrus has that "I saw him mocked in round 1" name recognition that Cyrus Kouandjio and Cody Ford had before him as second round offensive lineman that the Bills have drafted in Whaley/Beane eras. Same kinda' questions regarding the agility from the knees down. A second round guard really needs to turn into star quality blocker pretty quickly. Campbell going in round 1 screwed the pooch.... that was the hardest issue.. This kid is a student of football and that is what McD and Beane love the most about who we drat. our first and second pick specifically shows student of football and can hold their position well. We will see... I wanted OT more than life itself but I have watched a ton of film on this guy.. I think we will be in better shame than some think. Sometimes a draft pick takes warming up to... this is that pick lol 36 minutes ago, mrags said: Again. Just being realistic. This kid is a waste. everyone is just stuck on the fact that we had a hole at MLB. And we drafted someone that’s not a MLB. Get it out of your minds that this kid is going to be something for this team. He’s not. He’s a backup at best and a STer. We can only hope they don’t waste extra roster spots and money on veteran ST players as well as these guys like Williams and Bernard. we can all assume this and that is just fine... but none of us know including coaching what will happen till they hit the NFL field. Saying this kid is a waste this early, As much as it makes sense.. is to much crystal ball work for me. 28 minutes ago, BILLSINATL said: I like Dorian. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. I like the Dorian pick. Cotton Bowl D MVP, Team captain and fast. I had him as a 4th round target if we didn't get a LB early. Like last year not having our 4th hurts and there was a run at LBers. I didn't like the Bernard pick last year. great start rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metbill Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Going out on a limb and saying, I think this is going to be the best pick of this draft! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) Having flashbacks to last year's Draft: - Trade ahead of the Cowboys moving up 2 Picks - Pleased with Rounds 1 and 2 - Questionable 3rd Round Pick - Don't pick again until Round 5 45 minutes ago, mrags said: Again. Just being realistic. This kid is a waste. everyone is just stuck on the fact that we had a hole at MLB. And we drafted someone that’s not a MLB. Get it out of your minds that this kid is going to be something for this team. He’s not. He’s a backup at best and a STer. We can only hope they don’t waste extra roster spots and money on veteran ST players as well as these guys like Williams and Bernard. I think the pick is a head scratcher and wouldn't be who I would have gone with in Round 3. But to say he's a waste and can't be "something for this team" before he even plays a down is absolutely ridiculous. You don't have a Crystal Ball and you don't know what he could develop into. Edited April 29, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Success said: When did NE beat us? The wind game? yeah i think. i was working. i think they threw it 2 times that game but brings up the point we need a D that can stuff the run because sometimes that's all either team can do in OUR weather. bengals had a good rushing attack in the playoff game we just lost as well. maybe we are sitting this rook with AJ but beyond this year alot of small speed lbs we are stacking for the future. Edited April 29, 2023 by Buffarukus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Personally I would've preferred Dawand Jones. We would've established true OL battles to protect 17. I remember watching Williams dominate a top 10 USC team but I can't help but feel this was a reach because we lost out on 5 other LB's. Now we have like 5 mediocre ILB's vying for 1 position. Maybe they run a true 4-3 and allow Dorian to play OLB? We'll see? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Ok I guess let me better explain. People are begging for Dawand Jones, Trenton Simpson etc? What is the reason for that? Most of the time, not all , is because they’ve seen those guys really high in a lot of mock draft ls that the media pull out. So when it gets to the 3rd round and Simpson is still on the board, why are people not questioning the mock drafts that had him going high as he sits there in late round 3 versus realizing there is something going on that they either don’t know or haven’t seen. I explained Simpson lacks instincts , which Louis Riddick(who’s been interviewed for GM jobs) backs that exact sentiment up on ESPN when the pick goes down. It’s clear Dawand Jones hasn’t gone because theirs weight and work ethic concerns but because he was mocked in round 1 by media , people are still begging for him when it’s now 100 picks deep and 32 NFL GMs have passed on him multiple times. I don’t know man. We just think differently in this regard. I was begging for Trey Smith for 5 rounds. Meanwhile you were thinking that he’s slipping for a reason and that the nfl knows best because they get paid and you’re on the couch. I was right to be furious about picking Marquez Stevenson and a Rachad Wildgoose. Beane and the entire nfl failed in their Trey Smith evaluations Edited April 29, 2023 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: the standard answer will be that Dawand is a lazy overweight bum. I’d rather take a swing on a guy who literally has the tools to be a HOFer if he’s coached, focused and motivated…..instead we take ANOTHER tweener! How many of these LBs and DBs do we need we already have 4 of the same player Competition is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Little Baller Beane back again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Competition is good the competition is over. Special Teams run some laps. 25 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t know man. We just think differently in this regard. I was begging for Trey Smith for 5 rounds. Meanwhile you were thinking that he’s slipping for a reason and that the nfl knows best because they get paid and you’re on the couch. I was right to be furious about picking Marquez Stevenson and a Rachad Wildgoose. Beane and the entire nfl failed in their Trey Smith evaluations If Dawand Jones makes it to the later half of round 4, I’d offer our 5th, 4th and 7th next year. Risky, yes. But, he has the potential to be an All Pro OT Edited April 29, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Missed the opportunity to get a dynamic play maker in Drew Sanders in round 2, now we have just another small LB who has bad read and reaction ability. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: the competition is over. Special Teams run some laps. If Dawand Jones makes it to the later half of round 4, I’d offer our 5th, 4th and 7th next year. Risky, yes. But, he has the potential to be an All Pro OT If some of the rumors about teams despising his disposition are true, I wouldn’t. The FO knows more than us in that regard. I’m generally not a fan of drafting any player that big. It’s difficult to play in the nfl and remain healthy. It’s my belief that it’s much more difficult when your 6’8 380 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: Missed the opportunity to get a dynamic play maker in Drew Sanders in round 2, now we have just another small LB who has bad read and reaction ability. No. Now we have a beastly OG that was projected as possible 1st rd pick and best OG in the draft. A OG that didn’t give up a sack in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 hours ago, DJB said: Someone tell me how to feel so I can be angry or happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Projected rounds 3-4. Judging by the way other teams seem to gobble up players Buffalo is looking at I don't see why they wouldn't grab a guy they like. He was the Cotton Bowl Defensive MVP with 17 tackles in the win over USC. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dorian-williams/32005749-4c24-3940-708f-17c023a4d993 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 hours ago, NoSaint said: which scout was that? Do you know? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 No. 91 - Dorian Williams, LB, Tulane The Bills selected Williams midway through the third round, which is quite the surprise when looking back at the stage he and his teammates Tulane were at a year ago. The Green Wave finished the 2021 season with a 2-12 record doing a complete 180 in 2022, going 12-2 and winning the Cotton Bowl over the talented USC Trojans. Williams was a major reason why, as he did a little bit of everything. Along with posting a career-high 17 tackles in that 46-45 win over USC, he led Tulane in tackles (131), sacks (five), was second in passes defended (seven), had two interceptions and forced two fumbles. "He's a tackle machine, he's very athletic," Beane said. He has his elite closing speed to thank, something he showed flashes of when he tied for the fourth-fastest 40 time among linebackers at the combine with a 4.49. This kind of 4-4 speed while rushing toward the quarterback or forcing running backs to cut it back inside could be a major reason why Beane said he'll be starting out at outside linebacker. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bills-day-2-draft-recap-buffalo-selects-tackle-machine-for-defense-immovable-object-for-offense/ar-AA1avpBj?cvid=9c026ab8824e4a6f90ae7dcf1e36ce6b&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei= 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Why are we taking undersized LBs in the 3rd Better than oversized LBs in the first. Like 2018 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I think Spector is going to get every shot at winning the MLB job. Beane brings him up quite often. I think Williams is just a depth piece for now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: No. 91 - Dorian Williams, LB, Tulane The Bills selected Williams midway through the third round, which is quite the surprise when looking back at the stage he and his teammates Tulane were at a year ago. The Green Wave finished the 2021 season with a 2-12 record doing a complete 180 in 2022, going 12-2 and winning the Cotton Bowl over the talented USC Trojans. Williams was a major reason why, as he did a little bit of everything. Along with posting a career-high 17 tackles in that 46-45 win over USC, he led Tulane in tackles (131), sacks (five), was second in passes defended (seven), had two interceptions and forced two fumbles. "He's a tackle machine, he's very athletic," Beane said. He has his elite closing speed to thank, something he showed flashes of when he tied for the fourth-fastest 40 time among linebackers at the combine with a 4.49. This kind of 4-4 speed while rushing toward the quarterback or forcing running backs to cut it back inside could be a major reason why Beane said he'll be starting out at outside linebacker. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bills-day-2-draft-recap-buffalo-selects-tackle-machine-for-defense-immovable-object-for-offense/ar-AA1avpBj?cvid=9c026ab8824e4a6f90ae7dcf1e36ce6b&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei= https://thedraftnetwork.com/sr-prospect/dorian-williams-f030601f-289a-4ba7-8714-6db6e4405486/ Williams profiles as an impact special teamer that can provide depth at linebacker on defense. He has the physical makeup of a starter but has to get stronger, play faster, and develop instinctively to envision him as a starter at the next level. Ideal Role: Core four special teamer and reserve linebacker, preferably a WILL Scheme Fit: There is a path for him in any scheme TDN Consensus Grade: 69.00/100 (Sixth-Round Value) Marino Grade: 69.00/100 Written By: Joe Marino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 The more I think about this pick the more I hate it. No idea wtf McBeane is doing. Such a good first two rounds and then they had to go full McBeane. They can't help themselves. We extend Milano. Then spend a third round pick on a guy to be his backup/ST player..... a year after spending a third round pick on a guy to be his backup/special teams player. Ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I liked Williams day 3 but I think a lot of us would have preferred something like gambling on the potential of Drew Sanders in round 2 and then going with a Chandler Zavala in round 3 if they were determined to go G/LB or LB/G. Which is what it seems they were doing in hindsight. They really couldn't have expected the LB's that could run to last to day 3, could they have? Interior OL was generally expected to be deeper on day 3. Torrence really has to be a very good guard for that sequence to make sense. O'Cyrus has that "I saw him mocked in round 1" name recognition that Cyrus Kouandjio and Cody Ford had before him as second round offensive lineman that the Bills have drafted in Whaley/Beane eras. Same kinda' questions regarding the agility from the knees down. A second round guard really needs to turn into star quality blocker pretty quickly. Didn’t like what I saw and read about Sanders and missed tackles. That he’s a better blitzer then read and react. At the moment, I’m not worried about MLB - If the FO isn’t I’m not going to be. D line? Yes I’m definitely hoping we add big time here. That would improve our LB play. And fwiw the Eagles haven’t really replaced Edwards. The traditional MLB doesn’t seem like a top priority position as more and more teams go pass heavy and want you to cover these RBs and pass catching TEs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Process said: The more I think about this pick the more I hate it. No idea wtf McBeane is doing. Such a good first two rounds and then they had to go full McBeane. They can't help themselves. We extend Milano. Then spend a third round pick on a guy to be his backup/ST player..... a year after spending a third round pick on a guy to be his backup/special teams player. Ugh I laughed because it’s true. The Bernard/Dorian Williams picks are very similar in some regards. Both were named player of a bowl game (or something like that) after big defensive performances. Both are undersized, but sideline to sideline. One is from Tulane, the other from Baylor, and neither were slotted in the 3rd by the “experts.” Here’s to hoping at least one becomes a standout player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Didn’t like what I saw and read about Sanders and missed tackles. That he’s a better blitzer then read and react. At the moment, I’m not worried about MLB - If the FO isn’t I’m not going to be. D line? Yes I’m definitely hoping we add big time here. That would improve our LB play. And fwiw the Eagles haven’t really replaced Edwards. The traditional MLB doesn’t seem like a top priority position as more and more teams go pass heavy and want you to cover these RBs and pass catching TEs. This! I'm not going to worry about it either as these men have a plan. You don't build a top 5 defense year after year and not know what you are doing. Are Bills fans expecting a Ray Lewis in the 3rd round? The top LBer in this year's draft was Jack Campbell at #18 to Detroit. If the Bills somehow had drafted him you can bet that some would be complaining about it. Yes, he is a developmental project that will be regulated to start on special teams...deal with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Don't really care. Burrow, Rodgers and Mahomes will eat his lunch just like they did Edmunds. More offense please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 @Yawning Frog, please just leave. Your puke emogis on Every positive post is a disgrace to the team. The Jets and Pats* are looking for new fans. You’d fit well with them. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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