Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Is he wrong? 7 1 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Nope, he would not be wrong. 2 1 2 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I sure hope so. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Does he share a secret handshake with TO? It would cost millions to prove him wrong, so I’ll just ignore him. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Beasley pointing out the EXACT reason WR is the biggest need on this team. 8 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I'm glad he believes that. I also think we are going to see a lot fewer 3wr sets this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just now, That's No Moon said: I'm glad he believes that. I also think we are going to see a lot fewer 3wr sets this year. Are you expecting 12 personnel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Had Jamison Crowder not going to hurt it's debatable. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just now, Dr. Who said: Are you expecting 12 personnel? A lot of it. Knox will split out a ton but I expect to see a ton of two TE sets and I'd be thrilled if the Bills got that tank from Georgia to be the second TE 1 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Who even is the projected slot this year, Hardy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I do like that kind of confidence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Cole Beasley is a POS. Never liked him. 4 7 4 1 1 5 2 3 1 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Beasley had like 82 catches the year before and had injuries. I honestly think he's still in a value zone. 13 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Is he wrong? He wasn't even the best Slot WR on the team last year. Khalil Shakir just had the McDermott Rookie Training Wheels on. And all one has to do is look at Deonte Harty's explosive playmaking ability and explosiveness in 2021, before he got lost for the year at the beginning of 2022, to know that this take is completely laughable. He was better than Isaiah McKenzie was last season. But Harty and Shakir? Nope. If the Bills brought Cole back, he'd be on the Practice Squad and only activated if there were an injury to Harty or Shakir. Edited April 24, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 5 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, That's No Moon said: A lot of it. Knox will split out a ton but I expect to see a ton of two TE sets and I'd be thrilled if the Bills got that tank from Georgia to be the second TE I live near Athens. Big fan of Darnell Washington. There is a report out there apparently that a number of teams have dropped him off their draft board for medical reasons. I am skeptical. Timing suggests someone is hoping he drops to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Are you expecting 12 personnel? Expanding on my answer, of you have 2 TEs that can catch and run and also block a little it's a matchup nightmare for the defense. The extra TEs dictate more LBs but then they also need to be able to cover. You can have a TON of play calling flexibility without substitutions so you can trap personnel groups on the field. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Loved Cole while he was here. The tweet may be right. That said, the fact that both he and John Brown played snaps for the Bills in 2023 is all you need to know about the Bills wideout room. Time for an upgrade in their 20s 7 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Expanding on my answer, of you have 2 TEs that can catch and run and also block a little it's a matchup nightmare for the defense. The extra TEs dictate more LBs but then they also need to be able to cover. You can have a TON of play calling flexibility without substitutions so you can trap personnel groups on the field. Yep. Some folks on this board don't believe Dorsey will employ 12 personnel. Don't see how anyone can know that. We haven't had two really good TEs on the team to make it feasible. 12 personnel should also be particularly effective in the RZ where the Bills struggled last year. Dorsey was predictable and Josh had a lot of turnovers in the RZ where he had previously been stellar, so I hope it happens. Edited April 24, 2023 by Dr. Who 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 If we ever need someone to catch the ball 4 yards downfield and then fall down before getting tackled Beane will be sure to give him a call 3 5 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: A lot of it. Knox will split out a ton but I expect to see a ton of two TE sets and I'd be thrilled if the Bills got that tank from Georgia to be the second TE I think some of you grossly underestimate how big of a change that would be. NFL Offensive Coordinators are not known for just scrapping their entire offensive style and moving to a totally different offense design in an off season. Usually the team just fires the OC and then goes and hires the OC that runs the system they want to change to who has proven success running that style of offense. If we had a good 2nd TE, would we incorporate some more 2 TE sets...sure...but to expect its going to be a main focal point is a bit unrealistic. And I will point this out again to everyone so keen on running a heavy dose of 12 personnel...no team has ever won the SB building its offense off 12 personnel and 2 TE sets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Cole Beasley, Bwahahahahaha… 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 32 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Is he wrong? He is not necessarily wrong, but he isn't for sure right either. Based on only last year, he could certainly say that. But what does he have left a year later and over a full season is a real question? And where will Shakir be at in his growth come week 1 is also an unknown. Until Shakir proves it on the field, hard to say Cole is wrong. However, I prefer sticking with the youth and seeing what Shakir can do, or even a rookie if we draft someone to compete for the starting slot WR spot with Shakir. But Cole could still start on many teams IMO this season as a quality slot WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 He was the best turd in the turd bowl last year. Congrats, Cole. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Who even is the projected slot this year, Hardy? Probably split reps with Shakir until one distances himself from the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 30 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Had Jamison Crowder not going to hurt it's debatable. Jamison Crowder not getting hurt is like the sun not setting in the West. 8 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Cole Beasley, Bwahahahahaha… Not sure why you’re laughing at a guy that was clearly an important piece in a two decade long wait for relevancy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Beasley pointing out the EXACT reason WR is the biggest need on this team. because he’s loud and a distraction instead of doing his job? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 No reason to not want him back. He should be well rested and still has something in limited action last year. Can’t have too many good WRs on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: He is not necessarily wrong, but he isn't for sure right either. Based on only last year, he could certainly say that. But what does he have left a year later and over a full season is a real question? And where will Shakir be at in his growth come week 1 is also an unknown. Until Shakir proves it on the field, hard to say Cole is wrong. However, I prefer sticking with the youth and seeing what Shakir can do, or even a rookie if we draft someone to compete for the starting slot WR spot with Shakir. But Cole could still start on many teams IMO this season as a quality slot WR. I don’t think Beasley says this if the locker room and Josh Allen were high on Shakir to be honest. I know what everyone says publicly. Edited April 24, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 We can argue all we want but many people were telling this front office about the lack of skill talent. They pulled this guy and John Brown out of retirement cause of how bad the position was evaluated Beane has a chance to fix this is in a few days. Let’s see what he does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 35 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: He wasn't even the best Slot WR on the team last year. Khalil Shakir just had the McDermott Rookie Training Wheels on. And all one has to do is look at Deonte Harty's explosive playmaking ability and explosiveness in 2021, before he got lost for the year at the beginning of 2022, to know that this take is completely laughable. He was better than Isaiah McKenzie was last season. But Harty and Shakir? Nope. If the Bills brought Cole back, he'd be on the Practice Squad and only activated if there were an injury to Harty or Shakir. Get real Shakira didn’t win the job because he wasn’t good. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Can’t really see the harm in bringing him back for camp and see how he goes… He might think he has something to prove .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Did Gabe and Lil Dirty even combine the 80+ receptions we lost when Beas left. Sure the yards and TDs went down but the completions helps you move chains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 that ship has sailed.....beasley not the same player shakir is better than beas......and i'm guessing both the new guys will prove to be better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I don’t think Beasley says this if the locker room and Josh Allen were high on Shakir to be honest. I know what everyone says publicly. Shakir is a fine backup to all 3 positions and that should provide enough snaps for 400-500 yard bulk number type seasons...........he just isn't a good fit as a starter at any of them. Including slot. Everywhere you put him he's short on traits for that position. He's a taint. Maybe he develops some intangibles that elevates him into a starter.........but otherwise he's not in your 1-3 mix. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Is he wrong? When hen says he "played without doing anything"...he's certainly correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) He says he played without doing anything 7 weeks beforehand - I thought he played a lot of basketball 🤔 Edited April 24, 2023 by stevewin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Guess he didn’t sell his house yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Shakir is a fine backup to all 3 positions and that should provide enough snaps for 400-500 yard bulk number type seasons...........he just isn't a good fit as a starter at any of them. Including slot. Everywhere you put him he's short on traits for that position. He's a taint. Maybe he develops some intangibles that elevates him into a starter.........but otherwise he's not in your 1-3 mix. Contested catch I saw and some run after catch on a couple plays. I didn’t see any type of route runner skills. 20 minutes ago, BananaB said: Did Gabe and Lil Dirty even combine the 80+ receptions we lost when Beas left. Sure the yards and TDs went down but the completions helps you move chains. Gabe and McKenzie have/had their roles but neither offer the route running of Cole when he was still able to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 33 minutes ago, NoSaint said: because he’s loud and a distraction instead of doing his job? WHAT?! Hahahaha!!!! Our offense was at its best when he was producing. No one can deny that. He isn’t wrong with what he said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr. Who said: Yep. Some folks on this board don't believe Dorsey will employ 12 personnel. Don't see how anyone can know that. We haven't had two really good TEs on the team to make it feasible. 12 personnel should also be particularly effective in the RZ where the Bills struggled last year. Dorsey was predictable and Josh had a lot of turnovers in the RZ where he had previously been stellar, so I hope it happens. Anyone familiar with dorseys college career did he use his tes alot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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