Your Bills-related unpopular opinion

[GoBills808]

god that is some of the dumbest ***** ive ever read

[Airseven]

At some point, Bills fans should admit the :13 seconds game isn’t representative of Allen. Last year’s playoffs were a more accurate reflection of his erratic inconsistencies. OL is bad, but Allen compounds the problems and deserves blame of his own.

[90sBills]

25 minutes ago, Airseven said:

At some point, Bills fans should admit the :13 seconds game isn’t representative of Allen. Last year’s playoffs were a more accurate reflection of his erratic inconsistencies. OL is bad, but Allen compounds the problems and deserves blame of his own.

Allen can definitely work on some things to be better next year. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

10 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

...and we all know there is a gap to Mahomes and the Chiefs. So what other avenues does Allen have to close that gap?

Adopt an annoying little brother? 🤔

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

On 3/25/2023 at 11:18 AM, KDIGGZ said:

Bills missed their Super Bowl window and are in decline

Correct. This team peaked two years ago and now the long slow decline to mediocrity begins 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

On 3/25/2023 at 11:32 AM, GunnerBill said:

I think the two Bills opinions I have that are unpopular in terms of this forum as it has been recently would be: 

 

1. Ed Oliver is one of our top defensive players.

 

2. Josh Allen didn't play well enough in the post season this past January. 

1 is so far wrong as to be laughable. 2 is correct.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

On 3/25/2023 at 12:38 PM, LeviF said:

Jim Kelly simply wasn’t good enough. 

This is one I've been hammered for in the past. Amy given year at his best, he was maybe the fifth best QB in the league. Marino, Noon, Elway were all FAR better QBs.

[Shortchaz]

On 3/28/2023 at 7:52 AM, BritBill said:

 

Tonight we're going to party like it's 1999. 

I’ll let the eagles and niners know 

[Chaos]

On 3/28/2023 at 10:53 AM, Patrick Fitzryan said:

He had arguably the greatest postseason performance ever in a game when it was 0 degrees outside.

 

I'm never not amazed by the amount of Bills fans who think a domed stadium should be built, forever eliminating their weather advantage, so that a then-30-year old QB can benefit from it for a few years.

Notwithstanding the Patriots success in an a cold weather market (I have never heard anyone say their dynasty was in any way due to a weather advantage).

There really is no evidence the Super Bowl winners disproportionately come from teams without domes and a weather advantage.  Chiefs (2), Rams, Bucs won the last four. 

[Not Applicable]

7 hours ago, Chaos said:

Notwithstanding the Patriots success in an a cold weather market (I have never heard anyone say their dynasty was in any way due to a weather advantage).

There really is no evidence the Super Bowl winners disproportionately come from teams without domes and a weather advantage.  Chiefs (2), Rams, Bucs won the last four. 

A dome team didn't win the Super Bowl until 2000, and only three have ever won - all had homefield advantage. There's a LOT of evidence that they struggle in the playoffs.

[Chaos]

58 minutes ago, Patrick Fitzryan said:

A dome team didn't win the Super Bowl until 2000, and only three have ever won - all had homefield advantage. There's a LOT of evidence that they struggle in the playoffs.

The Bears, Browns and Bills play in the most extreme weather conditions in the NFL.  Lets some up their 21st century Super Bowl success. Green Bay is cold too, but does not have the lake driven wind conditions.  

[Straight Hucklebuck]

14 hours ago, Airseven said:

At some point, Bills fans should admit the :13 seconds game isn’t representative of Allen. Last year’s playoffs were a more accurate reflection of his erratic inconsistencies. OL is bad, but Allen compounds the problems and deserves blame of his own.

Airseven - He’s just not Mahomes.

 

Nobody else in the league is.

 

The media sets the QB standard at Mahomes (because they are obsessed with ranking) and it’s something where I say okay he’s the clear-cut best, but it leaves 31 other QBs as never going to measure up to that. 
 

That means Herbert isn’t good enough, he’s 0-1 in the Playoffs, Hurts isn’t good enough, he’s 2-2, Burrow, threw two interceptions in the AFC Title game, he isn’t good enough, Allen is 4-4 in the Playoffs, he’s not good enough, Dak isn’t good enough, Lawrence isn’t good enough, the media is living off the 2019 MVP for Lamar, but he’s 1-3 in the Playoffs, not good enough. 

 

My stance is Allen is good enough to win “a” Super Bowl, and I agree to some extent with the media Mahomes ball washers - he is on another level, but because there is a gap, the Bills surrounding roster has to be better than the Chiefs, if not much better. 

 

Unfortunately, Beane added Diggs in 2020 and an old Von Miller in 2022 and it’s not enough, at least until Kelce ages out because as good as the KC FO is, it’s hard to draft HOFers.
 

The next wave is always coming. 
 

As Bills fans we have to hope that the Bengals owners don’t have much money and when you hear their representatives talk, they are gagging on that Burrow contract talking about everyone being happy. 
 

 

9 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Correct. This team peaked two years ago and now the long slow decline to mediocrity begins 

Who is on the way up?

 

 

Edited April 1, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Airseven - He’s just not Mahomes.

 

Nobody else in the league is.

 

The media sets the QB standard at Mahomes (because they are obsessed with ranking) and it’s something where I say okay he’s the clear-cut best, but it leaves 31 other QBs as never going to measure up to that. 
 

That means Herbert isn’t good enough, he’s 0-1 in the Playoffs, Hurts isn’t good enough, he’s 2-2, Burrow, threw two interceptions in the AFC Title game, he isn’t good enough, Allen is 4-4 in the Playoffs, he’s not good enough, Dak isn’t good enough, Lawrence isn’t good enough, the media is living off the 2019 MVP for Lamar, but he’s 1-3 in the Playoffs, not good enough. 

 

My stance is Allen is good enough to win “a” Super Bowl, and I agree to some extent with the media Mahomes ball washers - he is on another level, but because there is a gap, the Bills surrounding roster has to be better than the Chiefs, if not much better. 

 

Unfortunately, Beane added Diggs in 2020 and an old Von Miller in 2022 and it’s not enough, at least until Kelce ages out because as good as the KC FO is, it’s hard to draft HOFers.
 

The next wave is always coming. 
 

As Bills fans we have to hope that the Bengals owners don’t have much money and when you hear their representatives talk, they are gagging on that Burrow contract talking about everyone being happy. 
 

 

Who is on the way up?

 

 

Jets. Jacksonville 

[90sBills]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Airseven - He’s just not Mahomes.

 

Nobody else in the league is.

 

The media sets the QB standard at Mahomes (because they are obsessed with ranking) and it’s something where I say okay he’s the clear-cut best, but it leaves 31 other QBs as never going to measure up to that. 
 

That means Herbert isn’t good enough, he’s 0-1 in the Playoffs, Hurts isn’t good enough, he’s 2-2, Burrow, threw two interceptions in the AFC Title game, he isn’t good enough, Allen is 4-4 in the Playoffs, he’s not good enough, Dak isn’t good enough, Lawrence isn’t good enough, the media is living off the 2019 MVP for Lamar, but he’s 1-3 in the Playoffs, not good enough. 

 

My stance is Allen is good enough to win “a” Super Bowl, and I agree to some extent with the media Mahomes ball washers - he is on another level, but because there is a gap, the Bills surrounding roster has to be better than the Chiefs, if not much better. 

 

Unfortunately, Beane added Diggs in 2020 and an old Von Miller in 2022 and it’s not enough, at least until Kelce ages out because as good as the KC FO is, it’s hard to draft HOFers.
 

The next wave is always coming. 
 

As Bills fans we have to hope that the Bengals owners don’t have much money and when you hear their representatives talk, they are gagging on that Burrow contract talking about everyone being happy. 
 

 

Who is on the way up?

 

 

This is where I’m at as well. Mahomes is just unreal. Yeah Reid puts him in the best position to succeed but he has to deliver on the field. True generational talent.

 

With that said Allen is definitely good enough to win a championship. Needs better decision making. Team can help with upgrading the line. Learn from past failures. Bright future for this team. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Jets. Jacksonville 

Well even so, they’re both going to run headlong into the same issue that the Bills have.

 

The AFC is a buzz saw of QB talent, and the Texans and Colts are set to get highly rated QBs as well.

 

So the Jets will have a short window with Rodgers, and the Jags have to build a real defense. 
 

KC isn’t going to win the Super Bowl every year, so the Bills have to be in position in those off years. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

The Bills are not a physical team.  They are soft on sides of the ball and have been for over 20 years

[Another Fan]

The 1990 NY Giants were just as good as the 1990 Bills all things considered.   
 

The Bills didn’t play their best game that Super Bowl but they should have never been favored by 7.5 points.  Giants had Super Bowl experience as well from a few years prior.  The Bills didn’t 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

28 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

The Bills are not a physical team.  They are soft on sides of the ball and have been for over 20 years

 

I think that's another "not" unpopular opinion..........but it's true that even the organizational water carriers who have had to poo-poo the notion that the team wasn't physical enough to protect their access to the team(like Shill Capaccio, for instance)......... are now having to admit as much because the coach himself is saying it in actions and words. 

[dgrochester55]

On 4/1/2023 at 7:13 AM, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

This is one I've been hammered for in the past. Amy given year at his best, he was maybe the fifth best QB in the league. Marino, Noon, Elway were all FAR better QBs.

 

Agreed, He was good but not at the tier of QB's like Montana and Elway.    I think that the drought along with 20 years of bad to average at best quarterback play inflated the view of Kelly and made many of us view him through rose colored glasses.       It is funny because I remember a significant portion of the fan base constantly complaining about how bad Kelly was and calling for him to be benched for Reich during his entire career.   

Edited April 2, 2023 by dgrochester55

[Dopey]

Herb Nightly should switch from Indica to Sativa. 

[Nextmanup]

13 hours ago, Another Fan said:

The 1990 NY Giants were just as good as the 1990 Bills all things considered.   
 

The Bills didn’t play their best game that Super Bowl but they should have never been favored by 7.5 points.  Giants had Super Bowl experience as well from a few years prior.  The Bills didn’t 

 

Couldn't disagree more.  I will always say that had that game been played 4 more times for a total of 5, the Bills win the other 4 going away, by big margins, as straight up the better team.

 

We played our worst possible game, the Giants played their best possible game, they got great coaching, we got terrible coaching, and it all boiled down to losing by 1 point...an almost perfect result for the Giants.

 

They wouldn't be able to repeat that again.

 

 

[Just in Atlanta]

Two for one:

 

LaBatt’s is bad beer

 

Shout! is a dumb song

 

Edited April 3, 2023 by Just in Atlanta

[Augie]

41 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Couldn't disagree more.  I will always say that had that game been played 4 more times for a total of 5, the Bills win the other 4 going away, by big margins, as straight up the better team.

 

We played our worst possible game, the Giants played their best possible game, they got great coaching, we got terrible coaching, and it all boiled down to losing by 1 point...an almost perfect result for the Giants.

 

They wouldn't be able to repeat that again.

 

 

 

Hand the ball to Thurman more often, and we win that game going away. They were giving us the run. TAKE IT! 

[Another Fan]

36 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Couldn't disagree more.  I will always say that had that game been played 4 more times for a total of 5, the Bills win the other 4 going away, by big margins, as straight up the better team.

 

We played our worst possible game, the Giants played their best possible game, they got great coaching, we got terrible coaching, and it all boiled down to losing by 1 point...an almost perfect result for the Giants.

 

They wouldn't be able to repeat that again.

 

 

 

Imo the Giants defense that year was just as impressive as the Bills offense.  Both teams were 13-3.  The one time they played in the regular season the Bills won but it was pretty close.  

 

 

That all works to their advantage they had better coaching.  

[pennstate10]

Bills need to give spencer brown at leas 2 more years to see if he can be successful at RT. 
He’s young, has elite athleti traits (RAS>9), and just  the right amt of mean attitude. 
 

but he doesn’t have experience. Malcolm Gladwell wrote a book about exceptional athletes, writers, artists, craftsman. He concluded that you needed to spend 10,000 hours at a vocation before you’re truly elite. True for shooting free throw, playing Mozart, or a journey cover band. 
 

Brown didn’t play OL in high school, only 2 years in college, now starting year 3 with Bills. Let’s say he practices tackle movements 2 hr per day n college and 4 hour per day in nfl.   So that’s 1440 college hrs. The back injur really set him back, so hee only got about 4 hr x 400d in nfl or 1600. So his total is now 3440 hrs, give or take a few. If he works out full time for next 2 years—700 d x 4 hr, he will be at 6200 total hour, within spitting range of 10000

[Success]

Our window is wide open and will be for many years (qualifier: only unpopular among opposing fans).

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

Our window is wide open and will be for many years (qualifier: only unpopular among opposing fans).

 

I would suggest Big L Distributors for window replacement, but I think WGR threw out all their useful commercials for sports betting commercials.  Then again, it spares us 'cheesy' jingles.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Sean McDermott taking over play calling and defensive responsibilities will have a larger impact than any talent acquisition will/would have. 
 

The change at WR coach may give us the Gabe Davis we all thought he would be last year. 
 

Bills will draft more DBs than OL in April, and they should. 
 

There is a no name, UDFA hopeful RB who has no idea they’ll be the TBD darling in about 3 weeks. 

[Mikie2times]

Twobillsdrive was a better place when we didn't over merge threads which has created excessively long threads essentially burying and minimizing all previously written material. 

[Lfod]

I'm ok if the Bills don't win a Super Bowl because at least they don't suck. 

[Nineforty]

Nate Peterman is one of the top 64 quarterbacks in the world. 

[Augie]

Calling yourself a “realist” doesn’t mean you aren’t just whining. 

 

There are many who can really see both sides of the argument, the good and the bad, and that’s great. Some other people lean WAY too hard toward any negative they can find, like they are the smart ones who know the truth. Nope. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

There is a no name, UDFA hopeful RB who has no idea they’ll be the TBD darling in about 3 weeks. 

Lawd, we'll be so nice?  We'll be lovey dovey?

[Einstein]

4 hours ago, pennstate10 said:

Bills need to give spencer brown at leas 2 more years to see if he can be successful at RT. 
He’s young, has elite athleti traits (RAS>9), and just  the right amt of mean attitude. 
 

but he doesn’t have experience. Malcolm Gladwell wrote a book about exceptional athletes, writers, artists, craftsman. He concluded that you needed to spend 10,000 hours at a vocation before you’re truly elite. True for shooting free throw, playing Mozart, or a journey cover band. 
 

Brown didn’t play OL in high school, only 2 years in college, now starting year 3 with Bills. Let’s say he practices tackle movements 2 hr per day n college and 4 hour per day in nfl.   So that’s 1440 college hrs. The back injur really set him back, so hee only got about 4 hr x 400d in nfl or 1600. So his total is now 3440 hrs, give or take a few. If he works out full time for next 2 years—700 d x 4 hr, he will be at 6200 total hour, within spitting range of 10000

 

I don’t see Spencer’s issues being fixed with time, because his issue is slow feet.

 

When he gets beat around edge, it looks like he’s running in sand.

 

I just don’t see how time fixes speed.

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, KzooMike said:

Twobillsdrive was a better place when we didn't over merge threads which has created excessively long threads essentially burying and minimizing all previously written material. 

 

Personally, I think thread merging is just a bad idea a lot of times. Not always, but many times it is. No one can keep track of a 30+ page thread with information buried in it.

 

It seems like the rules of common human engagement just gets tossed out of the window when talking online.

 

Imagine talking with a friend in real life and then suddenly a powerful being tells you to stop talking because there are 50 other people already talking about a similar topic. Then he snaps his fingers and your conversation is now part of this huge other conversation and this new massive conversation is not at the same place (topic wise) that yours was and this new massive conversation has already devolved into side topic that you weren’t talking about with your friend, etc. It’s a mess.

[daz28]

That the process has an expiration date.

[mrags]

1 hour ago, daz28 said:

That the process has an expiration date.

Yeah it’s whenever Beane and McD decide they don’t want to be here anymore cuz Pegula will never fire them 

[BuffaloBillyG]

That Gabe Davis is a solid #2 WR. He's not a 1A like Tee Higgins. But he is a guy that could start on roughly half the teams in the NFL. 

[GunnerBill]

21 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Personally, I think thread merging is just a bad idea a lot of times. Not always, but many times it is. No one can keep track of a 30+ page thread with information buried in it.

 

It seems like the rules of common human engagement just gets tossed out of the window when talking online.

 

Imagine talking with a friend in real life and then suddenly a powerful being tells you to stop talking because there are 50 other people already talking about a similar topic. Then he snaps his fingers and your conversation is now part of this huge other conversation and this new massive conversation is not at the same place (topic wise) that yours was and this new massive conversation has already devolved into side topic that you weren’t talking about with your friend, etc. It’s a mess.

 

That analogy only works if we all have to here all 50 conversations. The reason for thread merging is seeing the same topics started as new threads over and over is laborious and actually buries new and interesting content. 

 

I agree there have been times when the balance has gone too far like "you are talking about Stefon Diggs and there is already a thread about Diggs so it must be merged" when, for example, one might be about his social media activity and another is about his contract. Not saying that has happened but just as an example. 

 

But we don't need (to give a recent example) multiple threads about how the defense might change now that McDermott is calling it rather than Frazier. That should all be one thread. Just because one person thinks it might mean more 4-3 base and another thinks it might mean more blitzing does not justify two topics.

[billsfan89]

On 4/2/2023 at 8:28 AM, pennstate10 said:

Bills need to give spencer brown at leas 2 more years to see if he can be successful at RT. 
He’s young, has elite athleti traits (RAS>9), and just  the right amt of mean attitude. 
 

but he doesn’t have experience. Malcolm Gladwell wrote a book about exceptional athletes, writers, artists, craftsman. He concluded that you needed to spend 10,000 hours at a vocation before you’re truly elite. True for shooting free throw, playing Mozart, or a journey cover band. 
 

Brown didn’t play OL in high school, only 2 years in college, now starting year 3 with Bills. Let’s say he practices tackle movements 2 hr per day n college and 4 hour per day in nfl.   So that’s 1440 college hrs. The back injur really set him back, so hee only got about 4 hr x 400d in nfl or 1600. So his total is now 3440 hrs, give or take a few. If he works out full time for next 2 years—700 d x 4 hr, he will be at 6200 total hour, within spitting range of 10000

I do agree that Brown should get a chance to start but I think they need to have quality competition for him. Brown’s biggest issue has been health he just hasn’t been able to stay healthy. 
 

He had back surgery in 2022 off season and he couldn’t practice much well into camp. Then just as he starts to get going in the regular season he gets an ankle injury that costs him some games. 
 

Quees is a decent backup but I would like to see another tackle drafted to give the Bills options if Browns health or performance doesn’t add up.