Paup 1995MVP Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Agreed. I figured the Bears would go after him. It's definitely a loss for the Bills; he had a very good season last year. They're going to have to replace him in FA. I've wanted Lavonte David for a while given that I figured Edmunds was gone. Dave I usually like your views. But have to disagree about Edmunds. He was overdrafted. And now is getting overpaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 i don't even think he's top 10 in performance at his position (and you could argue he and milano have interchangeable roles, and matt is better). he has a ton of potential, and was the captain in a great (regular season, statistical) D. he's just not a playmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Did you have the Eagles wirh Hurts making the SB before the Bills with Allen? Eagles won the super bowl like 5-6 years ago. They aren't the worst team in the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Did we have any close to a dominant DT for him to play behind? I agree TE has his issues but dude takes way too much blame on this board. We have undersized DTs who get blown up a lot. I suspect Edmunds will be average to good in Chicago. Edmunds gets a lot of crap on the board. Some is a little overboard indeed. He did a lot of subtle things on defense. In the end, I don't think he's worthy of an 18 million dollar contract for 5 years. That's overpaying by a lot imho. I'm happy he was able to get paid because he was a good team player. Now, the Bills have a pretty big hole to fill. Interesting to see their plans going forward. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I am relieved he’s gone. Never lived up to the hype. Never could hit the hole and stop the run or sack the qb. 0 instincts. All I wanted him to do was to lay out Julian edleman when he ran across the middle but he couldn’t even do that. Won’t miss him chasing down a player like Perriman. so what he could drop back in cover two zone and hold his spot. Whoop-dee-*****-do 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Haha I called it, enjoy irrelevancy. Hope the $ was worth it why is he irrelevant and I'm sure he'll enjoy the money. What if the Bills never made an offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rico said: Bottom line, his dad was a Dolphin, only goes to figure this wouldn't work out. Great point Bro... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I wanted him to be great but never was. I would love Vander Esch but injuries are a concern with him. The other concern with Vander Doodle is that he suck’s badly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I wanted him to be great but never was. I would love Vander Esch but injuries are a concern with him. Thankfully your not making personnel decisions. Vander Esch plays 5 games a year and is not pimple on Edmunds butt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiva Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, LittleSammy said: The biggest issue "that headache" will now have is how to spend the $72 million he has coming his way. Good for him. Probably on hair products. Jokes on the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Liability in run game. Great in pass coverage with that length But he Lacked instincts, especially the killer instinct Milano played with Not a ra ra leader I'd like as the QB of the defense The Bills had the 4th best rushing defense in 2022. He wasn’t “a liability.” Edmunds is a very good player that will be tough to replace. I think that $18M AAV is too much for the Bills but I’m not going to pretend that this is a good development. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, LEBills said: Goodbye Tremaine, you were good just not great Poles is obv a Bills fan trying to take Bates last year and getting Tremaine this year. Hope they keeping adding OL for Fields beyond Nate Davis I went to school with Poles, he was a HUGE Bills fan. I am happy and proud of him, he is a good dude I enjoy watching him succeed to theblevel he has. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I suspect Edmunds will be average to good in Chicago. Edmunds gets a lot of crap on the board. Some is a little overboard indeed. He did a lot of subtle things on defense. In the end, I don't think he's worthy of an 18 million dollar contract for 5 years. That's overpaying by a lot imho. I'm happy he was able to get paid because he was a good team player. Now, the Bills have a pretty big hole to fill. Interesting to see their plans going forward. Fair points. I will say their head coach make Leonard, an all pro with far less tools. Also, I bet he gets to blitz more where he can be an absolute menace. It is a lot of money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Thank goodness we drafted Terrell Bernard 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 This is one of the few times I'm happy to lose a good player in FA. This means more available money for the O-line and weapons — this year and for years to come. Theoretically. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Eastport bills said: Thankfully your not making personnel decisions. Vander Esch plays 5 games a year and is not pimple on Edmunds butt. smh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: I am relieved he’s gone. Never lived up to the hype. Never could hit the hole and stop the run or sack the qb. 0 instincts. All I wanted him to do was to lay out Julian edleman when he ran across the middle but he couldn’t even do that. Won’t miss him chasing down a player like Perriman. so what he could drop back in cover two zone and hold his spot. Whoop-dee-*****-do Sour grapes from someone who must have been in a coma when Edmunds had a great year and represented our most physical player. You think professional GMs give 72 million to a inside LB that is what you’ve describing. You’re talking about his first couple years. He was 24 last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Rico said: smh. who dis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, Virgil said: It’s just annoying to lose him for nothing. Not even a transition tag We simply could not afford that with our cap. Just not worth that money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, BillsShredder83 said: who dis? Howdy Doody Esch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Now we are one Milano injury away from Bernard playing LB which is not good. LB major need on this team now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, gobills404 said: This thread is really dragging all of the Edmunds hating weirdos out of the woodworks. It was nice when he had them real quiet during this past season. Quite like the time he damn near killed Dane Jackson with his infamous “jump on the pile” tackle strategy? I promise you I hated his overpursuing ass - and was vocal about it - during the season. So weirdos, at least speaking for myself, were here all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Bears Traded for Mack (for 2 1sts, a 3rd and a 6th), sign him to a 6 year extension for 144 million (most of any Defender in history), trade him after 4 years (get a 2nd and a 6th). Draft Smith at #8. Trade him 4 years later for a second. Sign Edmunds to the biggest ILB contract in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: who dis? leighton Vander esche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Congrats to Maine. Good kid and was a good Bill. Just not good enough. Perhaps he will reach his potential with the Bears but I doubt it. And that contract is a massive overpay, even understanding that this is the norm in FA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The Bills had the 4th best rushing defense in 2022. He wasn’t “a liability.” Edmunds is a very good player that will be tough to replace. I think that $18M AAV is too much for the Bills but I’m not going to pretend that this is a good development. Finally, someone who’s objective. These people that won’t acknowledge his performance last season have sacrificed their credibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 The Bears truly are a crap organization. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, Nitro said: Living outside of Buffalo, the opinion of Edmunds is that is a rising star. Still do not understand the heat he got from Bills fans. We had to watch him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: Thankfully your not making personnel decisions. Vander Esch plays 5 games a year and is not pimple on Edmunds butt. Yeah it would suck to have Cooper Kupp, Debo Samuel, and DK Metcalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Quite like the time he damn near killed Dane Jackson with his infamous “jump on the pile” tackle strategy? I promise you I hated his overpursuing ass - and was vocal about it - during the season. So weirdos, at least speaking for myself, were here all along. The fact that you hold a grudge for an accident on the football and still hated him during his best season actually perfectly demonstrates your weird hate fetish for him. So thanks for that. Edited March 13, 2023 by gobills404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 39 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said: Thank GOD! The most polarizing player in Bills history. He’s not a leader - nobody can argue with this statement. I’ll never forget the Jags loss last year when he did not play. He sat at the end of the bench, not involved whatsoever. This was when I decided I was done with him and Gisele (poster) can remember this moment when I threw my hands up and said he was hopeless. Good riddance. Seriously? How much do you know about Bills history? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 50 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: $$$$$$$$$$$ Usually that 2nd contract is the one big chance for FA to cash in, but at 29 Tremaine will likely get another shot at that big contract. Who knows what he could be looking at in 4 years - lucky bastard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Too bad, but you could see it coming. Hard to pay a guy when: 1. He gets drafted the same year the star QB got drafted and thus tied up cap $$, and 2. You have an All Pro playing next to him at the same position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Eastport bills said: Finally, someone who’s objective. These people that won’t acknowledge his performance last season have sacrificed their credibility. Or maybe Tremaine was mostly a cog in the wheel. We were blowing out some teams last year. Of course teams weren’t going to run on us when they are down big . Also let’s get Wagner, or L David and see how they perform in this D. My guess is that they outplay Tremaine at a fraction of the price 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, DJB said: Or maybe Tremaine was mostly a cog in the wheel. We were blowing out some teams last year. Of course teams weren’t going to run on us when they are down big . Also let’s get Wagner, or L David and see how they perform in this D. My guess is that they outplay Tremaine at a fraction of the price I'd like to see that too (and, btw, I'm sincere, not sarcastic.) No way in hell we need to pay an LB $18 million a year. Edited March 13, 2023 by Nephilim17 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Governor said: We had to watch him play. As did I and I was not hyper critical as some. Realize that he is 24. The same as guys in this year's draft only Edmunds has 5 years NFL experience. I think he will excel in the new defensive scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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purple haze Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 57 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: They wouldn’t pay Roquan but signed two guys today They have a lot of money to spend and need players at that position. Roquan wasn’t happy. At a certain point I don’t think he wanted to be there anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: Not saying Edmunds is this guy, but there's a certain type of player who is okay-but-nothing special for his first several seasons, blows up during his contract year, and signs the richest offer sheet put up by a perennial laughingstock when he hits FA. Those guys don't tend to work out. Now, Edmunds is an unusual case because he was so young when he entered the league. But still. I see where you’re coming from and we have to remember he literally played with difference makers at every level of the defense here. He will be the guy in Chicago that they build the defense around he’s just not that kind of player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, DJB said: Or maybe Tremaine was mostly a cog in the wheel. We were blowing out some teams last year. Of course teams weren’t going to run on us when they are down big . Also let’s get Wagner, or L David and see how they perform in this D. My guess is that they outplay Tremaine at a fraction of the price Edmunds STRENGTH was his pass defense. If you’re always leading, as the Bills are, that’s more important. His length and athleticism won’t be easy to replace. The Bills will take a step back there. Losing Edmunds ABSOLUTELY makes the Bills worse. If the offense improves by enough, it hopefully won’t matter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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