Who Will Be Next Year's Scapegoat?

[Kirby Jackson]

22 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Bro they are drafting a safety in the first round. Don’t even start. You know it’s happening.

I don’t see it. This regime is starting to see some criticism for the 1st time. I’ll be really surprised. I think both TE and Bijan are more likely than defense. 

[DrDawkinstein]

6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I don’t see it. This regime is starting to see some criticism for the 1st time. I’ll be really surprised. I think both TE and Bijan are more likely than defense. 

 

Ha! If their response to criticism is to draft a RB or TE at 27, then I hope they are ready for even more criticism.

[Don Otreply]

11 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

Last year the Special Teams Coordinator was the scapegoat. 

 

This year it was the Defensive Coordinator. 

 

Who will be McDermott's scapegoat next year? On to Offensive Coordinator? He already did that previously when he fired Dennison, can always go back there again and fire Dorsey I guess...

 

... walls are closing in ...

We are blaming you Art, mostly for such a bad thread, you have been wanting to fire every head coach since way back in the BBMB days, not that some of them didn’t deserve to be fired, but it seems that this is all you got…. Be more creative going forward 😁👍 nuthin but luv,

[Behindenemylines]

The fans are to blame. Fire them, fire them all!   Well just the ones that didn’t participate in making us the highest Blood Alcohol Fanbase-they get fired.  We need the boozehounds to protect our title for next season 

[HOUSE]

The Pope and Mother Teresa 

 

[ngbills]

11 hours ago, Irv said:

AFC East Titles.  10+ win seasons.  Go back to kicking your dog.  Get a life.  

This is valid if we don’t have Josh Allen. If this was like the 49ers with plug in any qb. When you have the to mvp candidate as qb the bar is much higher. The Bills have underachieved in the eyes of the football world. 

[C.Biscuit97]

It’s definitely going to McDermott. I think he is a really good coach and great leader. But the stakes are so high. We just “retired” a DC who consistently had top 10/5 defenses. 
 

if we don’t make at least the championship game, I think the seat is going to get really hot for Sean. It might not be right but that’s what scapegoating is.

[FireChans]

46 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I don’t see it. This regime is starting to see some criticism for the 1st time. I’ll be really surprised. I think both TE and Bijan are more likely than defense. 

Antonio Johnson is born to be a McD Bill.

 

We were in on guys like Dugger/Chinn before in the second but they never made it to us.

 

This team has been chomping at the bit to draft a S high.

[WhoTom]

I blame phony architects who moonlight as marine biologists.

 

 

[Augie]

3 hours ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:

I love how you can explain away 4 terrible playoff losses by calling it 2 freaky losses. 

 

I didn’t do that at all. Pay attention. I was talking about last season, while you refer to 4 seasons where we didn’t win the Super Bowl. Guess what! Only one team can win the SB each year.

 

I can live with a 13-3 season because I’m a grown up. 

[T master]

13 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

Last year the Special Teams Coordinator was the scapegoat. 

 

This year it was the Defensive Coordinator. 

 

Who will be McDermott's scapegoat next year? On to Offensive Coordinator? He already did that previously when he fired Dennison, can always go back there again and fire Dorsey I guess...

 

... walls are closing in ...

 

No mater what McD does there will always be those here that B**CH about what he does . Hell even if he does bring a SB to Buffalo there will be those Mafia members here that say "Well it would have been better if he would have passed more or if he would have called a time out here" .

 

Love the Bills Mafia but they are worse than those that have either menopause or Man O Pause never happy & always finding something to B**CH about .

[Nextmanup]

13 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

Last year the Special Teams Coordinator was the scapegoat. 

 

This year it was the Defensive Coordinator. 

 

Who will be McDermott's scapegoat next year? On to Offensive Coordinator? He already did that previously when he fired Dennison, can always go back there again and fire Dorsey I guess...

 

... walls are closing in ...

For sure it will be Dorsey.

 

He should be gone right now; he's in over his head.  Another season of stalled offensive production and he's gone.

 

Next year he won't have the excuse of "Hey, it's my first year on the job."

 

 

[ArtVandalay]

11 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

It’s amazing that a 13 and three head coach needs a scapegoat
 

Buffalo has great fans, but they’ve got some ***** ones to

Keep sticking your head in the sand, John. Enjoy participation trophies and compete incompetence in the playoffs. Texans 2nd half turtle shell, zero gameplan for Hill/Kelce after going up 9-0 to start,  13 seconds absoluteky inexcusible... complete no show vs Dolphins and Bengals this year... we almost lost to Skylar Thompson... Team has gone backwards each of the last 2 years and that's irrefutable. 

 

Hey, have you seen the Bruins this year? Can't believe they fired their highly successful coach this past offseason week who always got them to the playoffs with 100 point seasons... what did they have to gain?

Edited March 1, 2023 by ArtVandalay

[teef]

didn't you feel the board was angry enough art?

[Augie]

12 minutes ago, teef said:

didn't you feel the board was angry enough art?

 

He’s the fireman who brings kerosene to the party! Always a good time! 

[Dr. Who]

11 minutes ago, teef said:

didn't you feel the board was angry enough art?

He's just perpetually mad about shrinkage.

[frostbitmic]

Super Bowl Champions don't need scapegoats.

[Augie]

14 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Super Bowl Champions don't need scapegoats.

 

Unless they don’t cover the spread. It’s hard to celebrate properly unless they cover the spread. Some of “us” are very needy. 

[GoBills808]

13 hours ago, Mango said:

We’re going to have one player on the roster from Beane’s 2018 draft in the roster to start 2023.

 

I am not sure that’s “throwing under the bus”.

I don't think that's the indictment you think it is

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, T master said:

 

No mater what McD does there will always be those here that B**CH about what he does . Hell even if he does bring a SB to Buffalo there will be those Mafia members here that say "Well it would have been better if he would have passed more or if he would have called a time out here" .

 

Love the Bills Mafia but they are worse than those that have either menopause or Man O Pause never happy & always finding something to B**CH about .

Honest critique is not B wording, it is merely talking about what didn’t go as anticipated, and discussing what might make things better going forward, adults can do that sort of thing and not see the situation as either black or white, but more accurately many shades of grey…, now get your thoughts out of the gutter…,

 

GO BILLS!!!

[TBBills Fan]

Ive found that red heads cause most of my problems 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Don't you love how McD always says "and that starts with me", but it never ends with him????

I've been a McD skeptic for years. He is likely a wonderful person and has very admirable qualities. 

But like Coach Beard said in Ted Lasso winning matters. These players are professionals. Relationships and culture are fine if you win. If you don't win it doesn't matter. Nobody on the team liked Jim Kelly all the way to four SuperBowl appearances.  You think anyone really likes Bill Belichick? 

If the Hamlin incident had not occurred and the Bills lost in the division round again I would have fired the entire coaching staff and started over. I would have given Beane a two year window with a new coach to make it to the SuperBowl. 

The Hamlin incident reset the clock for me. Now McDermott is SuperBowl or bust this year. I'm glad Leslie is gone and all eyes on the defense will be staring at McDermott. 

I truly hope he takes us to a championship. Like I said he seems like a nice human being. I would be happy for him. Do I think he will?. No. Am I willing to wait any longer. No. 2023 SuperBowl appearance or he should be fired. And no I don't care about 13 wins in the regular season. I care only about a ring. Most of us on here lived through the four SuperBowls and settling for losing in the playoffs is not good enough. 

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

Keep sticking your head in the sand, John. Enjoy participation trophies and compete incompetence in the playoffs. Texans 2nd half turtle shell, zero gameplan for Hill/Kelce after going up 9-0 to start,  13 seconds absoluteky inexcusible... complete no show vs Dolphins and Bengals this year... we almost lost to Skylar Thompson... Team has gone backwards each of the last 2 years and that's irrefutable. 

 

Hey, have you seen the Bruins this year? Can't believe they fired their highly successful coach this past offseason week who always got them to the playoffs with 100 point seasons... what did they have to gain?

Lol participation trophies

[Kirby Jackson]

5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Ha! If their response to criticism is to draft a RB or TE at 27, then I hope they are ready for even more criticism.

They’ll say that they are giving Josh a new weapon. If it is a TE, they’ll talk about how it will hep protect the QB and give him an outlet. If it is Bijan they’ll get one of the 5 best players in this draft. Bijan and Cook is a top 5 backfield tomorrow. 
 

A defensive player is tough to defend. “We let so and so walk and drafted a lesser version of them.” It isn’t happening. The 1st 2 rounds will be offense.

Edited March 1, 2023 by Kirby Jackson

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They’ll say that they are giving Josh a new weapon. If it is a TE, they’ll talk about how it will hep protect the QB and give him an outlet. A defensive player is tough to defend. “We let so and so walk and drafted a lesser version of them.” It isn’t happening. The 1st 2 rounds will be offense.

 

Agreed defense would be the toughest to defend, but I think they'll open themselves up to similar flack by wasting our Offensive picks on the RB/TE positions. Especially considering how (poorly) we use the guys we already have in those spots, and when everyone knows we need OL and WR.

 

I'd rather reach on an IOL than waste a 1st rd pick on a RB.

[Kirby Jackson]

5 hours ago, FireChans said:

Antonio Johnson is born to be a McD Bill.

 

We were in on guys like Dugger/Chinn before in the second but they never made it to us.

 

This team has been chomping at the bit to draft a S high.

They certainly loved those guys but the situation has changed. I could see Skinner, Smith or Battle in round 3. They are going to try to give Josh more. He has been tasked with too much.

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Agreed defense would be the toughest to defend, but I think they'll open themselves up to similar flack by wasting our Offensive picks on the RB/TE positions. Especially considering how (poorly) we use the guys we already have in those spots, and when everyone knows we need OL and WR.

 

I'd rather reach on an IOL than waste a 1st rd pick on a RB.

I’m okay reaching on OL or WR. Those are certainly my preferences. There are a bunch of guys that will go between like 15-30 that fit. I’m okay going up a few spots if need be.
 

I don’t view Bijan as just a RB. IMO, he’s capable of being a Henry or Taylor that the offense revolves around. He’s not CEH, Breece Hall or Etiene IMO. He’s a rare anomaly and could win the rushing title as a rookie. You can get a superstar talent at the end of the 1st because the position is so devalued. I’m not advocating for it but I’d be fine with Bijan. I wouldn’t consider another RB until round 4 probably.

 

TE isn’t a preference either. This draft is just strong there. They are saying 4 could go in the first. Players will get drafted later than their talent warrants because it is a strength of this draft.

 

i just don’t think that they can go defense. The only 1st round player Allen has played with is Kelvin Benjamin!! It’s absurd. They are going to give him a top talent to take some pressure off.

[Mango]

2 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

I don't think that's the indictment you think it is

What do you mean? 

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Don't you love how McD always says "and that starts with me", but it never ends with him????

 

 

Beane does that too.

[boater]

Read up, ..wanna be Grasshopper. 

 

[FireChans]

14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m okay reaching on OL or WR. Those are certainly my preferences. There are a bunch of guys that will go between like 15-30 that fit. I’m okay going up a few spots if need be.
 

I don’t view Bijan as just a RB. IMO, he’s capable of being a Henry or Taylor that the offense revolves around. He’s not CEH, Breece Hall or Etiene IMO. He’s a rare anomaly and could win the rushing title as a rookie. You can get a superstar talent at the end of the 1st because the position is so devalued. I’m not advocating for it but I’d be fine with Bijan. I wouldn’t consider another RB until round 4 probably.

 

TE isn’t a preference either. This draft is just strong there. They are saying 4 could go in the first. Players will get drafted later than their talent warrants because it is a strength of this draft.

 

i just don’t think that they can go defense. The only 1st round player Allen has played with is Kelvin Benjamin!! It’s absurd. They are going to give him a top talent to take some pressure off.

I hate when folks say this.  The Bills traded a first for a true #1. 

 

Mahomes just won a Superbowl without a "1st round player."

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I hate when folks say this.  The Bills traded a first for a true #1. 

 

Mahomes just won a Superbowl without a "1st round player."

well except for Mahomes, who is unanimously the best in the game 

[GoBills808]

24 minutes ago, Mango said:

What do you mean? 

I guess first of all I'd ask which player you are talking about

[LABILLBACKER]

3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Unless they don’t cover the spread. It’s hard to celebrate properly unless they cover the spread. Some of “us” are very needy. 

And some of us are perfectly content with regular season accomplishments. 

[Augie]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

And some of us are perfectly content with regular season accomplishments. 

 

Who is that? It’s OK, you can name names. 

 

Don’t put me on there. I’m on record as wanting a Super Bowl victory (not just an appearance), and preferring 13-3 and losing in the playoffs over missing the playoffs completely. It’s not an either/or thing. It’s not that simple. There is a spectrum of happiness. 

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

And some of us are perfectly content with regular season accomplishments. 

It's not as if McDermott's slogan isn't 'championship quality', so I'm unsure why folks are surprised seeing him hoisted by his own petard.

[FireChans]

20 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

well except for Mahomes, who is unanimously the best in the game 

Okay so we have Josh.  We took him in the first too, and higher than Mahomes.

[ALLEN1QB]

17 hours ago, Irv said:

AFC East Titles.  10+ win seasons.  Go back to kicking your dog.  Get a life.  

I guess some of us have higher expectations than you.

[Bill from NYC]

17 hours ago, Irv said:

AFC East Titles.  10+ win seasons.  Go back to kicking your dog.  Get a life.  

Is it OK for him to disagree with you?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

32 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Okay so we have Josh.  We took him in the first too, and higher than Mahomes.

Fair point it’s not where they are picked it’s who they become. Certainly a retrospective redraft would go completely differently in almost every case.