WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 His talent has not been questioned. He's still a douche 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: He’s been great but also incredibly lucky see the tuck rule and the Pete Carroll goal line decision. But I can’t take away what the man has accomplished going from pick 199 to being in the conversation as one of the greatest players ever. His announcing career is going to be interesting in the times he’s been on the Manning cast he’s been a solid interview. Fox will have him in the booth calling the Super Bowl. I get the feeling hes going to be good at it. Aren’t all the greats lucky? He also got unlucky, Eli escape act, the helmet catch, the dropped INT by Samual in the perfect season SB. BB not playing Butler against the Eagles. So my point is lucky and unlucky usually ends up evening out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Meh, Miami fans feel the EXACT same way about Josh Allen. Fans will always dislike the other teams QB, and they will really dislike him if he is good and has a history of beating the snot out of their team. I rather have a dude that shows fire on the field over someone like Herbert who is emotionless. Uh. Miami barely sees Allen. And when they've seen him it's only been for 3 years. We haven't seen hoards of media felate Allen publicly on TV to the point that they end up on Maury Povich to find who is the baby mama. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 My vote was that my feelings will not change. I've liked and respected Brady for his entire career. Watching him in his prime ... other than when he was owning the Bills ... was a treat. I know I'm in the minority, here, but it's how I've always felt about the guy. He made the NFL better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, boyst said: Uh. Miami barely sees Allen. And when they've seen him it's only been for 3 years. We haven't seen hoards of media felate Allen publicly on TV to the point that they end up on Maury Povich to find who is the baby mama. I’m confused by your comment. Miami has barely seen Allen? I think Allen has played 11 games against them in five seasons. I don’t think he’s played more games against a single opponent than the dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Aren’t all the greats lucky? He also got unlucky, Eli escape act, the helmet catch, the dropped INT by Samual in the perfect season SB. BB not playing Butler against the Eagles. So my point is lucky and unlucky usually ends up evening out. Nope not like he has. Dude was in a division for 20 years where the owners of the other teams didn’t really even care about football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Somewhere in the middle of his record setting run I came to respect him and accept that he was truly great regardless of how I felt about him torturing me as a Bills fan. That won't change when he retires. He's got a bit of an insufferable dork vibe that makes me think he wouldn't be the most fun guy to golf or slam beers with, but I think he's probably alright in real life. And now that he's suffered through his divorce, it humanizes him a bit more in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 He’s a cheating, luckbox douche. He’s also worked hard enough to have a career that spans 23 years and counting. People are more than one thing and I do respect aspects of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yay, he's the "GOAT". He's also a completely unlikable turd, a cheater, a dirty player, and as we saw AGAIN last night, a cheap little B word What he is doing is securing a 3rd round compensatory draft pick for Tampa Bay. He figured Bellicheat has enough of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Nobody can really not respect his career but the unretirement move will tarnish some, albeit minor, his reputation and legend. I kinda remember his dad saying that given the type of person he is, his career will end badly as he will never want to leave the field. He looked bad last night but that could also be how bad his s WRs are. Go Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Brady was clearly a legend and HOF quarterback. With that being said, Belichick was suspected to cheat in multiple ways during his time there and there was often those one or two questionable calls in a close game which would extend a drive or kill the opponents momentum at a key time. This was not just against Buffalo but against every other team as well. While it is true that top tier qb's get the breaks sometimes, I don't every remember, Montana, Manning, Allen or Mahomes getting nearly what Brady consistently got. That is why I cant say that he is quite the greatest of all time. I respect his ability and will probably remember the negatives less as time goes on, but I don't think that I will ever like him. Edited January 17, 2023 by dgrochester55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 It's a trick question. He will never retire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, NewEra said: I respect him. Always have. i can’t stand him. Always have Fully 100% agreed! Couldn't have said it better myself.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) This is a little like asking if I respect OJ now because he hasn't killed anyone in 28 years.* (* this isn't at all like it, but merely just a vehicle to slip this one in there (that's what she said)) Edited January 17, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanfrom83 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Retiring don't erase the cheating 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 No. That guy is and will always be the Antichrist 👿 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Screw that guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Felt Tom had a perfect storybook ending for retirement with his last Lombardi. Now I think things are forced and his skills are clearly diminishing. Factor in ego and the fear of hanging up the cleats, who knows when he calls it? But last night was ugly and teams will now think twice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said: Fully 100% agreed! Couldn't have said it better myself.... 👍🏻 Bobby Ewing was always my favorite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Airseven said: What would change? He’s the best. Now and after he retires. I appreciate him for finally allowing the Bills to take over the AFCE! He didn’t allow the Bills to do anything. Josh Allen would’ve took over the AFCE regardless if Brady left New England or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 He went to 10 superbowls and won 7 of them. He literally holds every record. He will be the all time GOAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I might feel differently had he retired after the last Pat*s SB win, but now I think he's hanging on just to make me angry. He has overstayed his welcome a thousand-fold. GO AWAY ALREADY!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: I’m confused by your comment. Miami has barely seen Allen? I think Allen has played 11 games against them in five seasons. I don’t think he’s played more games against a single opponent than the dolphins. unless they're looking for him they're not really seeing him outside of a few times a year. allen isn't covered nationally like other qbs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 No. Once an arsehole, always an arsehole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I already respect what that scum bag has done, outside of the scandals. No change for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 You left off option 3: I respect the hell out of him NOW, have always done so, and will CONTINUE to do so once he retires. It's just that I HATE the guy. It's worth pointing out that had Tom Brady played the bulk of his good years in Buffalo, having arrived here by a total fluke during one of our horrific administrations over the years.... There would now be a 500 foot tall statue of him, in gold, in the center of Niagara Square. And WNYers would be naming their sons Thomas for generations. ***** Get that obelisk the hell out of there! That's where Brady's pillar goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, dpberr said: I feel the longer he keeps trying to play, he's slightly tarnishing those amazing achievements he had as a Patriot quarterback. I hope he retires for good and doesn't try to push through a lone, forgettable season in a Raiders uniform. Mediocre Todd Bowles notwithstanding, this season was a lot of writing on the wall that it's over. I am often saddened seeing the pictures of NFL legends who finished their careers with forgettable one year stints with teams like Johnny Unitas in a Chargers uniform or Bruce in a Redskins uniform. Bruce didn't bother me nearly as Much as Thurman in a Dolphins uniform, that was just gross.. At least Bruce popped in 4 years there, 30 sacks and the all time sack record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) I'll feel 100% different about him, because then there will be no more Brady playoff games, or even worse, Super Bowls to endure. Once he retires he's just another former player on TV and I'm interested to see how it goes. Give him all the accolades you want while he focuses on talking about Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Hurts, and all the rest. BTW I still think he retires. He's done. Last night's game was a microcosm of their entire season: Tampa offense does very little until it becomes panic time and the other team goes into prevent. Then Brady stacks up yards and stats and the stat line ends up looking decent. His yards per attempt were like 30th in the NFL this season. It's all dink and dunk until the other defense goes prevent, then he hits Evans for a long TD. He (because it's all Brady) went 8-9 in the worst division (by far) in football. If he stays there they play the 1st place schedule and that team won't get any less old and slow. Is he really going to go somewhere else for 1 year at age 46 and start all over (but not really because it's a 1 year proposition)? Last night he was thanking the media and stopped himself from saying something. He said "hopefully..." IMO it was something about hopefully they will welcome him into their world. Edited January 17, 2023 by TheFunPolice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 No he is the best QB in NFL history. My opinion won't change. I would still rank Jerry Rice #1 overall. His stats for his era blow away any other player that played WR in NFL history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I would have respected him more if he retired after the Tampa Bucs win in the SUPERBOWL. Now I think he is playing for stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 How many are starting to feel, or closing in on feeling that similar type of "hatred" etc for P. Mahomes that you had for Brady when with Pats? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said: How many are starting to feel, or closing in on feeling that similar type of "hatred" etc for P. Mahomes that you had for Brady when with Pats? Lol I feel zero hatred for Mahomes or KC It's definitely a unique Brady thing for me. If it was Favre, Manning, Rodgers, or whoever that won 7 Super Bowls and never seemed to stop I would find it fun to watch. NE got so many lucky breaks, cheated, benefitted from obscure rules, etc. that it was horrible watching them win. Then I learn that it was all Brady. The coaching, the teammates, didn't matter. All Brady. Edited January 17, 2023 by TheFunPolice 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I don't sit in the hate zone, but Brady continues to be about Brady so he will continue to be an annoyance until he fully goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Awwufelloff said: He went to 10 superbowls and won 7 of them. He literally holds every record. He will be the all time GOAT. It is truly hard to believe that this will ever be approached let alone eclipsed. Personal stats, sure. But 10 super bowl trips and 7 victories for a single QB? I have a hard time believing we'll ever seen anything like that again in the modern NFL. It's incredible, and I think it will only become more incredible in time when great QBs come and go over the next few decades and maybe make it to 3 or 4 and win 2-3. No one is ever winning 7 again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, boyst said: unless they're looking for him they're not really seeing him outside of a few times a year. allen isn't covered nationally like other qbs of course, they’re watching the Bills. We are their biggest rival in the division. bills had a ton of prime Time and stand alone games this season too. +6 playoff games and counting over the last three seasons. All of which are standalone national games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I never had respect for him for so many reasons and never will, so I clicked on no. If he decides to retire, he'll announce it Super Bowl week just like last year so the news of the week is all about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yay, he's the "GOAT". He's also a completely unlikable turd, a cheater, a dirty player, and as we saw AGAIN last night, a cheap little B word This is his audition for the I've fallen and I can't get up commercials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Respect for the biggest whiner in the history of the NFL? Don't make me laugh. Zero respect for this guy, and all the tainted championships he's won. Let's not forget how classless he is too. Doesn't have the decency to shake hands with the opposing quarterback after a loss. Give me a break! I'm a Michigan fan too. I knew all about this guy long before the bandwagoners came to the party. He can go screw himself. Although I do welcome the idea of the Dolphins trying to sign him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 52 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said: How many are starting to feel, or closing in on feeling that similar type of "hatred" etc for P. Mahomes that you had for Brady when with Pats? Lol Maybe not as many considering how many people on this board continue to bemoan the fact that we could have drafted Mahomes. Those people still exist here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Nope not like he has. Dude was in a division for 20 years where the owners of the other teams didn’t really even care about football. He also played when P Manning, Big Ben, and A Rogers were in their primes. Also the 49ers in their prime had a joke division too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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