NewEra Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, todd said: The defense failed with Hughes, and was clearly better with Miller. Hughes should not be part of the conversation. Different level of player, and there should be no disagreement about that. To insinuate that we should have kept Hughes instead of signing Miller is …. Not bright. that’s not what I’m insinuating. Not even close 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Also this is clearly a sign that we need to outright ban the blue pants/white jerseys combo. This is my takeaway also 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Rushes 3, drops 8 As Marv Levy used to say: "It's simple, but it isn't easy". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Greg S said: Frazier needs to study what Bengals DC Lou Ararumo is doing. Beat KC three straight times and I think they held Mahomes to something around 250 yards passing last week. One thing is they took Kelce away for the most part and stripped the ball from him on a key play down the stretch. No catches in the first half, and just 56 yards in the second with a fumble. Most teams just accept that Kelce is going to get his 100+ yards, but he is Mahomes safety blanket. No matter who the QB is, you take away their top target that they lean on, they get very uncomfortable and make mistakes. Edited December 7, 2022 by WideNine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 hours ago, StHustle said: What happened to the MRI showing it wasn’t his ACL?!? Probably as good as the CT scan I had that said appendix was caught early but when went in to remove found it was burst. Sometimes the imaging lies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, WideNine said: One thing is they took Kelce away for the most part and stripped the ball from him on a key play down the stretch. No catches in the first half, and just 56 yards in the second with a fumble. Most teams just accept that Kelce is going to get his 100+ yards, but he is Mahomes safety blanket. No matter who the QB is, you take away their top target that they lean on, they get very uncomfortable and make mistakes. I noticed this too. What did the Bengals do schematically to take Kelce away so effectively? I’m not a film dude I’m a watch TV from my couch dude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 That $120,000,000 contract isn’t looking all that great now 1 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: I noticed this too. What did the Bengals do schematically to take Kelce away so effectively? I’m not a film dude I’m a watch TV from my couch dude Probably assigned someone to cover him. I swear against the Bills and every other team Kelce runs around defenders like they are pylons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: I noticed this too. What did the Bengals do schematically to take Kelce away so effectively? I’m not a film dude I’m a watch TV from my couch dude Not sure either. Having that tweener S/LB kind of player that has the skills to actually skate with Kelce 1:1 would be rare. More likely they found ways to effectively double him and disrupt his timing and routes. But yeah, would need someone who can break down that film. Either way, something Frazier's staff is sure to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Xwnyer said: Probably as good as the CT scan I had that said appendix was caught early but when went in to remove found it was burst. Sometimes the imaging lies Imaging is only as good as the actual cuts and whoever is reading the film. Appendix don’t burst, they don’t pop like a ballon. If the infection is contained within the appendix it’s a same-day operation and you can go home that day. If the infection spreads through the wall of the appendix and into the abdominal cavity it’s called a ruptured appendix but it’s not like a bomb went off in your abdomen and blew appendix parts all over. If the infection gets to the abdomen it can get real bad, so you need to be on IV antibiotics for a couple days. In your case, your rupture was probably caught early (happens often) and didn’t have enough time to inflame the surrounding tissue and show up on the CT. They probably saw a little puss leaking when they visualized your appendix. Von’s injury wasn’t a complete tear so didn’t show up on MRI well. When they got in there and tugged on it, it probably looked like a skinny wet noodle and was very loose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: As much as I hate agreeing with Brady, he was right about that super Bowl. The Philly defense made ONE PLAY all game. It was the offense that won the game for the Eagles by scoring lots of points. One more play than our defense made against KC in the playoffs, who then lost to Cinny after their D made a play in OT Edited December 7, 2022 by uticaclub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Almost feels like this isn't our year...Still not giving up hope but damn this is frustrating. The AFC doesn't really have a dominant team which is encouraging. Everyone looks beatable. Like Von says, "Don't blink"!! Bills have the talent on DL to take care of business. Just hope Shaq Lawson gets most of the snaps. He's been playing lights out football 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 This is great to know there are so many doctors and orthopedic surgeons posting on this board ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: I noticed this too. What did the Bengals do schematically to take Kelce away so effectively? I’m not a film dude I’m a watch TV from my couch dude https://www.footballoutsiders.com/any-given-sunday/2022/why-cincinnati-bengals-are-kansas-citys-worst-nightmare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I just want to know how we went from he’ll be back in a month playing with a brace to season ending ACL surgery. How did they get that so wrong? Maybe it was the same doctor that gave Tyrod his shot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worstcaseontario Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Big yikes, that massive contract was a gamble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 It hasn't felt this "over" since the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: It hasn't felt this "over" since the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Germans? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 9 Isles Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 cursed, for real for real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, Simon said: Germans? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It hasn't felt this "over" since the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Pretty sure the Italians bombed Pearl Harbor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Worstcaseontario said: Big yikes, that massive contract was a gamble It was , but that’s what you do when you’re on the brink of a Super Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Has anyone ever seen an ACL reported two weeks after a game??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Yeah, I was teeing it up for somebody to bring it home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 You guys playing cards? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 So will the Bills and Miller agree to an injury settlement? I assume he'll be out a good part of next year, too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, finn said: So will the Bills and Miller agree to an injury settlement? I assume he'll be out a good part of next year, too. Von posted an upbeat, positive video about being back next year. Beane said he expects him back for most of next year. Also will be back with team this year off the field and rehab in Buffalo. Obviously we can conclude … injury settlement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: It sounds like it wasn't a full tear but there was enough damage to where they felt they had to do the surgery because the doctor told Beane "it wasn't going to hold"...also sounds like recovery time might be less than for a complete ACL tear since they said they are hopeful he can play most of next season, which means it is a shorter timeframe for recovery initially. It doesn't matter if it's a partial tear, they just have to cut the whole thing out and replace it either way. You can't actually 'repair' an ACL, because they have no blood supply with which to heal. So the recovery will be the same as with a complete tear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Forgive me for being naive, but isn't an injury settlement only done in situations where a player is being released (and typically on a 1-year deal, or in the last year of a deal)? And also fogive me if there is sarcasm above that I am missing. I don't think it's something typically used with star players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Von posted an upbeat, positive video about being back next year. Beane said he expects him back for most of next year. Also will be back with team this year off the field and rehab in Buffalo. Obviously we can conclude … injury settlement. I’ve been looking for a bright side, so how about this? Obviously we want Von all season long. He was great early this year, and next year we will have him for the back of the schedule and the playoffs, and that’s what we really wanted! It’s the best I got at the moment. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I was so happy Monday and Tuesday with what happened on Sunday with the rest of the league. Sigh. Can never sustain any joy with this team. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Simon said: Yeah, I was teeing it up for somebody to bring it home. See page 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, skibum said: It doesn't matter if it's a partial tear, they just have to cut the whole thing out and replace it either way. You can't actually 'repair' an ACL, because they have no blood supply with which to heal. So the recovery will be the same as with a complete tear. Most of what you said is true, the whole idea of an ACL, taking in a body does require blood flow. I’ve seen this firsthand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, StHustle said: Has anyone ever seen an ACL reported two weeks after a game??? That’s what I’m saying too. The whole thing just seems off and weird. Since when do we ever find out two weeks later something was torn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: That $120,000,000 contract isn’t looking all that great now Thank you, captain obvious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, skibum said: It doesn't matter if it's a partial tear, they just have to cut the whole thing out and replace it either way. You can't actually 'repair' an ACL, because they have no blood supply with which to heal. So the recovery will be the same as with a complete tear. We went thru our son tearing his ACL, and I believe this is accurate. You don’t fix it, you replace it with a graft from a cadaver, your own patella tendon or your hamstring. You can’t just sew it back together. Sucks, I know…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, Augie said: We went thru our son tearing his ACL, and I believe this is accurate. You don’t fix it, you replace it with a graft from a cadaver, your own patella tendon or your hamstring. You can’t just sew it back together. Sucks, I know…… I have had both of mine rebuilt, but since I'm not a professional athlete, I did not get a cadaver graft. Those cost extra! Ironically, it's the harvesting of your own tendons for spare parts that ends up causing the most problems over the long term. I still can't kneel on my right patella, 20 years later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, Augie said: I’ve been looking for a bright side, so how about this? Obviously we want Von all season long. He was great early this year, and next year we will have him for the back of the schedule and the playoffs, and that’s what we really wanted! It’s the best I got at the moment. 🤷♂️ senor augie I will take your best and add a caveat. What a hollywoodesque type tale it would be in Rousseau , Epaneza Basham Phillips and all the rest of our DL Mans UP to and we win the Super bowl anyway!~!~!!! the truth is this news makes me feel just ACK sick and want to swear like a sailor. to sum it up hermano ****** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 hours ago, coloradobillsfan said: "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Seems an appropriate day... (movie quote for the non-comedy film buffs) Your worried about the non-comedy film buffs, but you may have just killed some history buffs. 😋 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: given exam and MRI, I wonder how often an ACL tear is found incidentally at surgery. I wonder how long it’s been that way. He might have played on it for years and been just fine (see Thomas, Thurman), or it might have gone at the next practice. We’ll never know, but at least it’s fixed now and reduces the risk of missing all of NEXT year. 4 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: So, what do you propose they do? I propose they welcome him with open arms a few games before the playoffs so he can be a Super Bowl MVP again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 hours ago, balln said: He doesn’t consistently win as a pass rusher. He has a bull rush. And then shoestring/ diving plays. I’m glad we have him. But he’s not the closer / finisher Von is. He’s also got a great inside rip, a push pull, a dip, and a solid swim. Still, it’s gonna take the kid another year to really come into his own as a rusher. Biggest issue is that Groot doesn’t have exceptional bend, because that coupled with his dip or rip could be deadly. Hopefully he improves there over the next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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