Tre White Update - How did he do?

[BillsfaninSB]

Forgive me if this was discussed at length somewhere but curious how Tre performed last night?  Only had the chance to watch the 1st half.  Did not hear his name called much.  Did he play the whole game?

[Simon]

24 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Forgive me if this was discussed at length somewhere but curious how Tre performed last night?  Only had the chance to watch the 1st half.  Did not hear his name called much.  Did he play the whole game?

 

He probably played at least half the game and imo was moving a LOT better than I expected him to be.

[Warriorspikes51]

61% of the snaps, solid 

[BigAl2526]

I would guess he's probably full go for the Jets game.  He'll take off the plays he usually would but won't be on a pitch count. 

[Maine-iac]

Most to the point and simple answer I can give, while White was in the game the Pats did nothing through the air and Mac Jones was running for his life.  I think White's knowledge, size, awareness, and ability to be physical without getting a flag all make him a big difference maker.

[YoloinOhio]

9 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I would guess he's probably full go for the Jets game.  He'll take off the plays he usually would but won't be on a pitch count. 

Good. Get him on Garrett Wilson please. 

[mikemac2001]

Our goalie is finally back ❤️

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Remember when it took Tre a few weeks longer than we wanted to recover from his devastating knee injury so people here started saying he was lazily collecting money?  Good times.

[JGMcD2]

1 minute ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

Remember when it took Tre a few weeks longer than we wanted to recover from his devastating knee injury so people here started saying he was lazily collecting money?  Good times.

It would be really cool to sit back and analyze the lives and motivations of people who post on this message board as much as they do the players. 
 

It would be absolutely fascinating. 

[NewEra]

He played?  I learnt that he didn’t want to play.

[Mango]

18 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I would guess he's probably full go for the Jets game.  He'll take off the plays he usually would but won't be on a pitch count. 

 

Tre is one of the handful of guys on the defense he lets play 100% of snaps as long as he is healthy. There is no "Tre will play as normal and make his normal substitution's but won't have any restrictions or pitch count"

He will play 100% (or very very close to it) or he the staff will manage him. 

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

I thought he looked pretty good. He got a lot more snaps this week and wasn't thrown at too often.

 

With Von out, our secondary will have to cover the receivers longer so Tre's return is crucial for our defense.

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

I thought he looked pretty good. He got a lot more snaps this week and wasn't thrown at too often.

 

With Von out, our secondary will have to cover the receivers longer so Tre's return is crucial for our defense.

 

Tre at even 85% of what he was is still our best CB by a mile and it's not even close.

Edited December 2, 2022 by Big Turk

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

11 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

I thought he looked pretty good. He got a lot more snaps this week and wasn't thrown at too often.

 

With Von out, our secondary will have to cover the receivers longer so Tre's return is crucial for our defense.

We lost von but Rousseau came back just in time.  The man is an animal that could honestly surpass von this year even if von were healthy 

7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Tre at even 85% of what he was is still our best CB by a mile and it's not even close.

Yea I don’t think the nfl world really realizes the extent to which opposing offenses were just picking on two replacement level players darned near 100% of their snaps lol Dane at cb1 and anyone not named edmunds/Milano at linebacker were huge liabilities but it looks like those days are over now that edmunds and tre are back, Rhodes is playing relatively well, and we have Klein as a depth piece at linebacker.
 

if the pats caught us two weeks ago that game would’ve been a whole lot closer imo 

Edited December 2, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Steptide]

I'm actually curious how Rhodes played. Saw him in the game, but didn't see his name, which is usually a good thing for a defensive back 

[Alphadawg7]

Our whole D shut down the noodle arm Mac Jones, hard to gauge Tre on this game.  But none the less, he was good and as others pointed out played 61% of the snaps.  

 

Very encouraging next step for him, and look forward to seeing him more next week too.  

[Nineforty]

12 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I'm actually curious how Rhodes played. Saw him in the game, but didn't see his name, which is usually a good thing for a defensive back 

the only time I remember thinking about Rhodes last night was when he was very upset at someone on the Patriots. didn't see why or what happened. 

[YoloinOhio]

17 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I'm actually curious how Rhodes played. Saw him in the game, but didn't see his name, which is usually a good thing for a defensive back 

 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Those don't seem great (YAC not bad) but it also means he was not targeted  lot of times. So one assumes he was in position on some other plays.

[Simon]

57 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I'm actually curious how Rhodes played. Saw him in the game, but didn't see his name, which is usually a good thing for a defensive back 

 

He fit comfortably into the Bills defensive scheme. He was conservative, kept everything in front of him, used the sidelines and solid tackling to keep gains to a minimum. He moved well but didn't look quick, seemed to know where he was supposed to be but did not look like he was going to be a playmaker. Was not aggressive attacking the LOS on run plays but that could come with more time and confidence with the team.

I'm guessing we're going to see a lot of the 3 top CBs rotating for a while going forward.

[JerseyBills]

Barely noticed him, which means he had a great game 

 

He should be playing 100% of the game after this mini bye

[TheBrownBear]

He had a pass breakup on the sideline during either the first or second possession that caught my eye.  After that, he was invisible, which is good by me.

[CSBill]

Any word on Elam? Very curious that he was not active. 

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2022 by CSBill

[Rew]

There was a crosser that was completed over the middle for 9ish yards where he allowed more separation than his typical.  He made a quick tackle on it however.  Maybe someone else was supposed to be there and screwed up.  Other than that I didn't notice him get beat.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, CSBill said:

Any word on Elim? Very curious that he was not active. 

McD thinks Tre, Dane and Xavier are better than him right now 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, CSBill said:

Any word on Elim? Very curious that he was not active. 

 

McD is sending a message his play right now is not good enough for a stretch playoff run by a team with eyes on winning a SB.

 

Based on what I know about Elam he will step up to the challenge being issued.

 

Might have also been matchup related.

Edited December 3, 2022 by Big Turk

[ColoradoBills]

3 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Barely noticed him, which means he had a great game 

 

He should be playing 100% of the game after this mini bye

 

He played 61% of yesterday's snaps so I agree he is full go in 10 days.

[Turbo44]

36 minutes ago, NewEra said:

McD thinks Tre, Dane and Xavier are better than him right now 

Dane is not better than anyone right now

[John from Riverside]

4 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Tre at even 85% of what he was is still our best CB by a mile and it's not even close.

Hopefully Elam progresses, and that becomes no longer the case

[Einstein]

6 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Forgive me if this was discussed at length somewhere but curious how Tre performed last night?  Only had the chance to watch the 1st half.  Did not hear his name called much.  Did he play the whole game?

 

Played more than our 1st round pick did haha.

[Beck Water]

5 hours ago, Simon said:

 

He probably played at least half the game and imo was moving a LOT better than I expected him to be.

 

61% of the snaps.

[Brand J]

I do wonder if our first round pick, the one we traded up to get, will be a healthy scratch again against the Jets…

[3rdnlng]

The coaching staff wanted to get Rhodes plenty of playing time to see what they have in him.

[26TrapDraw]

5 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

It would be really cool to sit back and analyze the lives and motivations of people who post on this message board as much as they do the players. 
 

It would be absolutely fascinating. 

No it wouldn’t.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Turbo44 said:

Dane is not better than anyone right now

McD thinks he’s better than Elam.  He knows more than I.  

[newcam2012]

7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Our whole D shut down the noodle arm Mac Jones, hard to gauge Tre on this game.  But none the less, he was good and as others pointed out played 61% of the snaps.  

 

Very encouraging next step for him, and look forward to seeing him more next week too.  

Jones certainly doesn't have a strong arm. No denying that.

 

However, while watching the game I thought he panicked under pressure. Very poor QB under duress. He had some opportunities to hit some open guys but caved under pressure. Maybe it's the system or lack of he's playing under. However, his eyes aka vision looked worse than his arm. Give the Bills D credit for playing well. 

 

Wonder how Mike White will preform? I think his first game was an outlier. I'm thinking the Bills D will force him into mistakes. I do believe he played the Bills and threw several INTs. 

[ganesh]

6 hours ago, Turbo44 said:

Dane is not better than anyone right now

Duane was abused by the Vikings and Lions.  Elam should be playing ahead of Jackson

[SoMAn]

6 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Hopefully Elam progresses, and that becomes no longer the case

I still think Elam was a reach and a consolation prize after the early run on CBs in the 2022 draft.  I think Beane had his eye on at least 2 others before they were grabbed up ahead of the Bills’ pick. But with Tre’s scheduled return uncertain and with Wallace gone, they were desperate and chose Elam, who they claim they had a “first round grade” on. Not sure I buy that line. 

Elam is still a project. He has the skills and I believe the desire. Just needs to get with the program and play smarter.  He’s not there yet, but hoping he’ll make the jump by year 2. 

[Richard Noggin]

10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

First, thank you as always for finding and sharing actual information.

 

Second, without proper context, these stats are just numbers in a vacuum. 

 

While 67% completion pct and 7.3 ypa allowed looks at best, mediocre, what do we make of him being targeted only 6 times while playing 92% of snaps? He must have had at least 30 coverage snaps (30 out of 36 NE pass attempts = 83%, which is less than 92%). How often was White targeted? What about Jackson, and Johnson? I need more information before I can draw ANY meaningful conclusions from these 3 orphaned numbers. 

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, SoMAn said:

I still think Elam was a reach and a consolation prize after the early run on CBs in the 2022 draft.  I think Beane had his eye on at least 2 others before they were grabbed up ahead of the Bills’ pick. But with Tre’s scheduled return uncertain and with Wallace gone, they were desperate and chose Elam, who they claim they had a “first round grade” on. Not sure I buy that line. 

Elam is still a project. He has the skills and I believe the desire. Just needs to get with the program and play smarter.  He’s not there yet, but hoping he’ll make the jump by year 2. 

Which two? None of the corners other than the ones that were taken very early. Are playing at Elam level.